2024 catalyst
- Thread starter SnoPro1000
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The reason racers and such can get away with it is because they aren't held liable for injuries that incur for shotty drsign. If Cat or another manufacturer sells a sled that injuries someone, requires thousands of units to be recalled, or ruins their reputation, it means bankruptcy and that means thousands of employees and investors lose some or not all if their livelihood. Then like was stated, designing tools for assembly and having them built takes time. Cat needs their investment to pay, they can't afford to take a huge loss so them taking their time is the best way to hopefully receive a large return.
They do. That is how the prototype and concept validation is done. The original Alpha rail concept from 2013 has been described as basically what the snowest member here built. The original prototype Proclimb chassis sleds were tube chassis. Developing a consumer product is a very different process than something developed for racing. Vastly different goals for performance, longevity, economics, large scale manufacturability, and regulations that have to be met. Any powersport vehicle I've had or ridden that was setup as a dedicated race machine did not make a very good recreational riding play machine.
i think when things take longer than expected it can be from multiple reasons one being following a design route that doesnt lead to your ultimate goal so you have to start over, and also there is a moving target of what it needs to be to compete. combine that with rocky times at cat and years go by. I hope a stable ownership and management will allow them to update and innovate faster. I really just want more info on the new sled. a high end expensive lightweight version with carbon fiber bits that was 399lbs would get the mags talking.
In 1989 I rode the prototype prowler. When the 1990 prowler came out it had over 100 changes from the 1989. So they are absolutely tweaking up till production starts.
Your going back in time now talkin about the prowler. your handle Old & Slow makes sense, i guess i fit that as well. I remember when I believe Magic Cat came out with the Howler. Feelin old now
100 changes from an '89 Prowler that didn't exist? I get what your saying but a change could be anything brae.
Please a twin rail, please a twin rail!
They look a lot like a Poo.
I don't think the Matryx is an especially good looking snowmobile. I like how the catalyst looks so far.
100% agree - the Matryx is fugly. Big step backwards in that department for Pol.
Catalyst looks great!!
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Curious if it ticks off the boxes for you mountain guys? They where? Narrower, better spindles? Higher ride height? Better boards? Looks like they have the mountain seat? It’s still a alpha so what could be better if it stays an alpha? Iam a. Ew rider I have a 21 hardcore alpha.
Doesn't tick off the biggest box. You can't have one for a couple more years
Perfect opportunity for them to under promise and over deliver.
I hope they release more availability details on the 6th.
It looks to have checked all the boxes you mentioned. I personally will need to ride one before I can form any opinions. I am curious to see how the Alpha rail reacts with this chassis as compared to the twin rail on the Riot. The 600 has also peaked my interest. I have been riding the mountains since 78 and may be ready for a light nimble sled with 140 hp. I am way past trying to himark or be cool. For me and my riding partner its all about having fun, we typically find spots that void the crowds and go play in the trees. I can have as much fun on a 600 as on a turbo. I find it interesting that a lot of folks on here are bashing the sled because it has a 600. When very few if any have even seen one in person never mind ridden one.
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Obviously they are in the process of a 800 or 850 turbo so having th 600 will just be like every ones 600. I was more curious of the “platform “ seeing as a lot of people are pretty happy with ctec but most say fat and wide yada yada. Seems like an elevate front?
140 hp? Not enough at altitude or with a big lug track.
What’s sad about that? They have allready leaked a large displacement turbo on the new platform. Why is a 600 bad for what it’s worth. Each of the others do and poo has a 600. The die hards love the cat so having a 800-850 turbo with a slimed down , raised platform better yada yada. Then what will there be to complain about if it works? Seems like Polaris had a better machine but it’s broken or unavailable lol. So what’s sad about it? Really? What needs to be changed? Iam asking.
