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Arctic Boy said "Pres" not humanitarian. I won't argue that he has tried to make the world a better place, but so have a lot of folks.



I can't say that perhaps we don't have some points we can discuss, but my man you'd better get your s&*t straight if you going to come up in here and start running your chicklets. Your comment about the economy shows that you're ignorant. I didn't say stupid, because I don't know you or your backgraound so I'll assume your not educated in economics, thus ignorant.

stock market has been on a steady decline fore for the past several years

I'd like your to cite your source on this comment. When I look at an INDU chart it shows a decline in the last year, but steady growth for the previous two years (assuming you mean 3 years = several). You have said some things that are worthy of discussion and perhaps even you and I can agree in principle on, but you best know WTF you are talking about when you take someone to task about checking their sources.

Hahahaha.... And that sums THAT up


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Arctic Boy said "Pres" not humanitarian. I won't argue that he has tried to make the world a better place, but so have a lot of folks.

True, even though I was just a kid I do know a bit about President Carter, I studied him in College. He greatest down falls as a President was to be a man of the people. In addition the country was just coming out of one of the greatest public Presidential scandals!!

He gave the Panama Canal back to Panama, mistake be many standards but the right thing to do for the people of Panama. One of the qualifications for president should be "humanitarian". Not just "get me and my friends filthy rich" (Bush). To bad President Carter didn't do enough for the people of our country in the 4 years as President.



"I won't argue that he has tried to make the world a better place, but so have a lot of folks." NOT our current President. He is happy to send men and women to die half a world away, just to settle a personal vendetta. "Weapons of mass destruction" my a ss!!
 
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ill agree that bush has had ALOT of down falls, like the oil for food scam but hes done alot of crap that other people wouldent have had the balls to do... all i really know is that if obama becomes president that were royally screwed
 
A true humanitarian, doesn't help the rest of the world by crushing his own people.

Unemployment under Carter hit 8.3 percent. Today 5.7%, was around 4.8% at the beginning of the year.
Inflation under Carter hit 13.5 percent. Today 5.6%, was around 4.28% at the beginning of the year.

WHERE'S THE BEEF?


Carter: Wikipedia.
Economy: stagflation and the appointment of Volcker

During Carter's administration, the economy suffered double-digit inflation, coupled with very high interest rates, oil shortages, high unemployment and slow economic growth. Productivity growth in the United States had declined to an average annual rate of 1 percent, compared to 3.2 percent of the 1960s. There was also a growing federal budget deficit which increased to 66 billion dollars.

The 1970s are described as a period of stagflation, as well as higher interest rates. Price inflation (a rise in the general level of prices) creates uncertainty in budgeting and planning and makes labor strikes for pay raises more likely.

In the wake of a cabinet shakeup in which Carter asked for the resignations of several cabinet members (see "Malaise speech" below), Carter appointed G. William Miller as Secretary of the Treasury. Miller had been serving as Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. To replace Miller, and in order to calm down the market, Carter appointed Paul Volcker as Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board.[37] Volcker pursued a tight monetary policy to bring down inflation, which he considered his mandate. He succeeded, but only by first going through an unpleasant phase during which the economy slowed and unemployment rose, prior to any relief from inflation.

Led by Volcker, the Federal Reserve raised the discount rate from 10 percent when Volcker assumed the chairmanship in August 1979 to 12 percent within two months.[38] The prime rate hit 21.5 percent in December 1980, the highest rate in U.S. history under any President.[39] Investments in fixed income (both bonds and pensions being paid to retired people) were becoming less valuable. The high interest rates would lead to a sharp recession in the early 1980s.[40]

Quit accepting Liberal half truths as THE TRUTH.
 
A true humanitarian, doesn't help the rest of the world by crushing his own people.

Unemployment under Carter hit 8.3 percent. Today 5.7%, was around 4.8% at the beginning of the year.
Inflation under Carter hit 13.5 percent. Today 5.6%, was around 4.28% at the beginning of the year.

WHERE'S THE BEEF?


Carter: Wikipedia.


Quit accepting Liberal half truths as THE TRUTH.



I remember those times. I was laid off 4 times in two years. Trying to get a job through those years was a joke. Then Regan took over and my life has improved immensely. The job market right now is much better!
 
Isn't funny how quick people forget.

Jobless Rate CNN

CNN ran a story about how great it was that the unemployment rate was at a all time low of 5.3% under Clinton. But, no liberal remarked how great the 4.8% was just in January, and they don't call the 5.6% good either.

"It's politics stupid"

Democrats Good - Republicans Bad, give me another hit on that weed man.
 
Housing Crisis, you mean everyone thinking they needed a 2500 square foot house in a new development, with a 3 car garage, etc. Oh but they only made 50k a year and had 2 new cars plus toys to pay for as well? Sure am glad I'm bailing those guys out with my share of taxes on my 50k a year....damn I screwed up buying a cheaper home and driving a 750 dollar car, and an old sled and dirt bike. Maybe Obama will help me out....

Couldn't have been summed up better in one short paragraph. Let these idiots freeze in the street. Being economically irresponsible doesn't mean the government should bail ya out.
 
Couldn't have been summed up better in one short paragraph. Let these idiots freeze in the street. Being economically irresponsible doesn't mean the government should bail ya out.

Agree with you, but I also think that anyone that made loans to people they knew couldn't pay, should loose their shirt. If it wouldn't bring the economy to it's knees, I'd like to see some financial house crumble.
 
A true humanitarian, doesn't help the rest of the world by crushing his own people.

Unemployment under Carter hit 8.3 percent. Today 5.7%, was around 4.8% at the beginning of the year.
Inflation under Carter hit 13.5 percent. Today 5.6%, was around 4.28% at the beginning of the year.

WHERE'S THE BEEF?


Carter: Wikipedia.


Quit accepting Liberal half truths as THE TRUTH.
So the Vietnam war and Nixon had nothing to do with it????

That sounds a bit naive, I bit the those weapons of mass destruction are still out there being guarded by Osama Bin Laden!!:rolleyes:

Don't talk about half truths without mentioning Bush.
 
Bush isn't running! When will you all realize this!
my comment was in reference Wade's post about President Carter.

You may want to read what you are posting about !

Just a thought, there is more to things than, the "shell game" you and I are watching.
 
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So the Vietnam war and Nixon had nothing to do with it????

That sounds a bit naive, I bit the those weapons of mass destruction are still out there being guarded by Osama Bin Laden!!:rolleyes:

Don't talk about half truths without mentioning Bush.

OK, if we get to play that game, Carter came into office with a 6.9% unemployment all due to a war that ended two years earlier, he left with a unemployment rate of 7.5%. A year after, during Reagan's term, the unemployment rate peaked at 10.8%, as a result of Carter's incompetence. Reagan managed to bring that back down into the 5's for what was consider the glory years, back then. By the time he left, unemployment had climbed back into the 7's.

So again, what is wrong with today's 5.7%?????????

And, you obviously don't study McCain. Even though he supported the Iraq war at this point. He doesn't like Bush. He's bucked him several times. Bush endorsed McCain for the same reason Clinton endorsed Obama, it's expected of him. Something tells me, McCain will clean house, and install all new people in most every cabinet position.

As for WMD, go ask Mrs. Clinton, she voted to go to war. Maybe she was fooled by the devilishly clever Bush. :eek:
 
"I did not have sex with that women ...ah.. Monica Lewinsky"

Who wants to buy a pardon?

Did you guys know that Obama, was not born in the United States? How can he be president? ( OK, it's a technicality, I just threw it in for fun, don't really care. )
 
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Ruffrider talks about... "having such a lack of personal moral compass..." and him and his friends parrot the liberal media talking about the war and our soldiers dying in Iraq. Not real sure of how many soldiers have perished, (I believe it's around 3,ooo) protecting his right to be ignorant as he so often portrays conservative valued US citizens... we conservatives are all just plain dumb, can't think for ourselves... uneducated rednecks... guns and wars.

One fact I do know, is that liberal democrats have voted for and allowed MILLIONS, and MILLIONS of babies to be sucked out of their mothers womb, a pair of surgical scissors jabbed into the back of their heads, or left to die on a table after a botched abortion.... being denied help by LAW... championed by Obama. 100% rating by NARAL, the leading abortion group in the country. He's number 1 on the list.

AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SOLDIERS DYING FOR THEIR COUNTRY, TRYING TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS.

Quit killing innocent babies, then tell me about how "moral and righteous" you are.

I am from Washington, it's becoming a police state. Eastern Washington. By the way ruffy, enjoy Dino Rossi the next few years. Tell us about how our state deficit has increased under Gregoire, how we are the highest gas taxed state in the country, and all the small businesses are being destroyed because they can't make it under all the taxes and fees.

M7 guy... learn something other than what the tv tells you. You are getting tore up here, but please... as ruffy says... keep using that giant noggin of yours and think for yourself about how good it is to KILL BABIES, RAISE TAXES, CUT AND RUN IN IRAQ, ALLOW GAY MARRIAGE TO TAKE PLACE, TAKE YOUR GUNS AND RIDING SPOTS... why do I bother.
 
"I won't argue that he has tried to make the world a better place, but so have a lot of folks." NOT our current President. He is happy to send men and women to die half a world away, just to settle a personal vendetta. "Weapons of mass destruction" my a ss!!

I don't believe he is "happy" with sending men and women to war and its not all for weapons of mass destruction :rolleyes:

in fact, i know a lot of soldiers who have volunteered to go back over for another tour in Iraq.


Before anyone comments... yes, this has nothing to do with the topic. I am just saying. :D
 
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