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Ruffrider talks about... "having such a lack of personal moral compass..." and him and his friends parrot the liberal media talking about the war and our soldiers dying in Iraq. Not real sure of how many soldiers have perished, (I believe it's around 3,ooo) protecting his right to be ignorant as he so often portrays conservative valued US citizens... we conservatives are all just plain dumb, can't think for ourselves... uneducated rednecks... guns and wars.

One fact I do know, is that liberal democrats have voted for and allowed MILLIONS, and MILLIONS of babies to be sucked out of their mothers womb, a pair of surgical scissors jabbed into the back of their heads, or left to die on a table after a botched abortion.... being denied help by LAW... championed by Obama. 100% rating by NARAL, the leading abortion group in the country. He's number 1 on the list.

AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SOLDIERS DYING FOR THEIR COUNTRY, TRYING TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS.

Quit killing innocent babies, then tell me about how "moral and righteous" you are.

I am from Washington, it's becoming a police state. Eastern Washington. By the way ruffy, enjoy Dino Rossi the next few years. Tell us about how our state deficit has increased under Gregoire, how we are the highest gas taxed state in the country, and all the small businesses are being destroyed because they can't make it under all the taxes and fees.

M7 guy... learn something other than what the tv tells you. You are getting tore up here, but please... as ruffy says... keep using that giant noggin of yours and think for yourself about how good it is to KILL BABIES, RAISE TAXES, CUT AND RUN IN IRAQ, ALLOW GAY MARRIAGE TO TAKE PLACE, TAKE YOUR GUNS AND RIDING SPOTS... why do I bother.

The abortion horse is beaten to death and there's not even enough left to kick.


PS It's a fetus until birth.
 
Ruffrider talks about... "having such a lack of personal moral compass..." and him and his friends parrot the liberal media talking about the war and our soldiers dying in Iraq. Not real sure of how many soldiers have perished, (I believe it's around 3,ooo) protecting his right to be ignorant as he so often portrays conservative valued US citizens... we conservatives are all just plain dumb, can't think for ourselves... uneducated rednecks... guns and wars.

One fact I do know, is that liberal democrats have voted for and allowed MILLIONS, and MILLIONS of babies to be sucked out of their mothers womb, a pair of surgical scissors jabbed into the back of their heads, or left to die on a table after a botched abortion.... being denied help by LAW... championed by Obama. 100% rating by NARAL, the leading abortion group in the country. He's number 1 on the list.

AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SOLDIERS DYING FOR THEIR COUNTRY, TRYING TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS.

Quit killing innocent babies, then tell me about how "moral and righteous" you are.

I am from Washington, it's becoming a police state. Eastern Washington. By the way ruffy, enjoy Dino Rossi the next few years. Tell us about how our state deficit has increased under Gregoire, how we are the highest gas taxed state in the country, and all the small businesses are being destroyed because they can't make it under all the taxes and fees.

M7 guy... learn something other than what the tv tells you. You are getting tore up here, but please... as ruffy says... keep using that giant noggin of yours and think for yourself about how good it is to KILL BABIES, RAISE TAXES, CUT AND RUN IN IRAQ, ALLOW GAY MARRIAGE TO TAKE PLACE, TAKE YOUR GUNS AND RIDING SPOTS... why do I bother.

Sounds like you have been holding this in for a while... You waited to long IMO, as this has nothing to do with this thread topic...
 
PPS... it's a baby and a human being at conception.... a beating heart at 5 weeks... it's not alive? You are ignorant, or just don't like truth. If you left it alone, would it live? The baby is alive, just because you don't think so doesn't mean it isn't true.

It may be beaten to death, but it's an issue that will be beaten to death until the right thing is done. A woman doesn't have the right to kill a baby. Next thing that will be legislated is the killing of old people because they are a drain to our economy.

Murdering babies is a big deal, sorry you don't think it's worth talking about sturgis sledder.

Looks like the "moral decay" ruffrider is talking about lies to the left of the isle.
 
PPS... it's a baby and a human being at conception.... a beating heart at 5 weeks... it's not alive? You are ignorant, or just don't like truth. If you left it alone, would it live? The baby is alive, just because you don't think so doesn't mean it isn't true.

It may be beaten to death, but it's an issue that will be beaten to death until the right thing is done. A woman doesn't have the right to kill a baby. Next thing that will be legislated is the killing of old people because they are a drain to our economy.

Murdering babies is a big deal, sorry you don't think it's worth talking about sturgis sledder.

Looks like the "moral decay" ruffrider is talking about lies to the left of the isle.

And the winner for getting everyone to talk about his only subject of interest is................ 24footjet:rolleyes:
 
I don't live on this forum like you do ruffrider... you like to spout alot from what I've seen to people who never have a chance to speak to your face. Typical... pretty confident behind some keys.

The thread topic is Obama supporters and abortion has nothing to do with this topic? Since you are a higher minded individual than I, praytell what is the topic I should talk about?
 
My only subject of interest.... Seems I've spelled out them all. Killing babies, gay marriage, raising taxes, cutting and running in Iraq, taking away gun rights... seems like I only want to talk about killing babies right?
 
24footjet, look above your post. You will find the subject being discussed there.... or at least that was the last tangent anyways..
 
Here it is....

I don't believe he is "happy" with sending men and women to war and its not all for weapons of mass destruction

in fact, i know a lot of soldiers who have volunteered to go back over for another tour in Iraq.


Before anyone comments... yes, this has nothing to do with the topic. I am just saying.

Iraq and George Bush... you want to talk about that? Talk about a dead horse.
 
I don't live on this forum like you do ruffrider... you like to spout alot from what I've seen to people who never have a chance to speak to your face. Typical... pretty confident behind some keys.

I would and do talk the same.. Actually better as it is possible to have a more structured/focused discussion. Problem is most people seem to get angry in discussions and take others different beliefs as a personal attack...... Granted I am not as respectful as I probably should be, but I think I give less then I get.....

My face is around the I-90 area in the winter.. Come on over and we can discuss how wrong your beliefs are while I am helping you get your sled unstuck.:p (you do know that was a joke right?)
 
I don't live on this forum like you do ruffrider... you like to spout alot from what I've seen to people who never have a chance to speak to your face. Typical... pretty confident behind some keys.

The thread topic is Obama supporters and abortion has nothing to do with this topic? Since you are a higher minded individual than I, praytell what is the topic I should talk about?

I dont know Ruffy very well, but I bet he would be more than happy to sit down over a beer and discuss whatever you wanted to. And how is him posting his view any different than you posting your view? You're hiding behind your keyboard even more than he is...where are you from? ( and for the record, my address is posted for all to see on another thread for a party we're havin...you're more than welcome to come join us). :beer;

FYI...I'm a moderately conservative republican (obviously more moderate than you...careful, if you lean too far to one side, you'll fall!!), I believe in the right to bear arms, limiting taxes, welfare reform, and I'm a business owner.

Now here's the kicker to confuse you...I believe in a woman's right to abortion (you're spitting on the constitution and the supreme court if you believe otherwise), I FULLY support same sex marriage (this is a religous issue, not a political one), I belive the war in Iraq was just, but the strategy was short sighted and arrogant, and I believe if you aren't willing to GET INVOLVED in politics, you're as full of sh!t as the liberal left because you're just tilting at windmills!!

So, come on out and have a beer and stop getting so worked up. :D :beer;
 
PPS... it's a baby and a human being at conception.... a beating heart at 5 weeks... it's not alive? You are ignorant, or just don't like truth. If you left it alone, would it live? The baby is alive, just because you don't think so doesn't mean it isn't true.

It may be beaten to death, but it's an issue that will be beaten to death until the right thing is done. A woman doesn't have the right to kill a baby. Next thing that will be legislated is the killing of old people because they are a drain to our economy.

Murdering babies is a big deal, sorry you don't think it's worth talking about sturgis sledder.

Looks like the "moral decay" ruffrider is talking about lies to the left of the isle.

Who are you to tell a woman what to do with HER body and it is HER body. Yes the fetus is alive, but so is a head of lettuce, and the similarities don't stop there. Can either one of them think? Can either one of them survive on their own? The answer is going to shock you but NO THEY CAN'T. How many unwanted babies have you adopted, how many of them have you helped with, how much have you donated for their care? I know we should make the woman carry the fetus to term and then it will all be better, the child will be well cared for and loved. Who's fooling themselves now? Who left you to decide what the "right thing to do is"?

From Wikipedia:

In humans, the fetal stage of prenatal development starts at the beginning of the 11th week in gestational age (the 9th week after fertilization).

Until then it is a ball of cells.
 
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I'll try and answer all the replies... I don't know how him posting his view is any different than me posting mine... and I already said where I was from, Eastern Washington. The city is Brewster, population 3,000.

I'm not spitting on the constitution, you are. It's called truth. You think the founding fathers would agree with killing a baby? It's pretty certain where I will go with my arguments because I believe in the Bible, the article of which our country was founded. Our country now sucks.... ever wonder why? We now kill babies... it's not a woman's RIGHT to kill a baby, it's a woman's choice to kill a baby. She should have thought about the consequences of a child before she took the steps to make one. No responsiblity. So let's take tax payer monies and kill it. And when are most babies aborted? Long after 11 weeks, so your argument is faulty in that it's just a ball of cells Sturgis. Most abortions take place at 16 to 20 weeks, so you say it's alive then. Murder.

Same sex marriage WILL destroy our country. You tear apart what makes us great, the family, you tear apart our country. It isn't just a religious issue. You cannot separate faith and politics. You can't put one in the corner and leave it for an opportune time, they go hand in hand.

I'm pretty involved in politics... I'll leave it at that.

UNWANTED babies... is that even possible to say? "Hey, who wants that little prick, let's kill it"... hope somebody doesn't say that about you when they have tired of you when you reach 80 yrs old and are considered useless... it's gonna happen if things keep heading the way they are... they already are in other places.

Can a baby just born survive on it's own? Nope, needs parents just like in the womb. Can a just born baby think? Hard to say, needs parents to nurture it. Dude your arguments are terrible....

Never adopted a baby, helped with a few, and donated alot to help needs of all kinds of things I believe in.

Who told me what the right thing to do is? The Bible. Tells me to care for the least of these... I think a child falls under that category.

Proceed.
 
MINNEAPOLIS - The niece of the Martin Luther King, Jr. has used the Democratic Party convention in Denver this week to denounce abortion, which she calls a violation of civil rights.

Alveda King, who traveled to Denver this week during the Democratic Party convention, notes that the party's platform does not recognize the life of the unborn to be a civil right. And she says while the Democrats have reached out to Christian voters, she wants to remind those Christians that the Bible supports the rights of all people -- and "that includes the pre-born," she adds.

Yesterday, King released a statement honoring the 45th anniversary of her uncle's "I Have a Dream" speech. She described MLK as a man of God, a man of great compassion, and a man of non-violence who once said "the Negro cannot win as long as he is willing to sacrifice the lives of his children for comfort and safety."

As King put it yesterday, "I know in my heart that if Uncle Martin were alive today, he would join with me in the greatest civil rights struggle of this generation -- the recognition of the unborn child's basic right to life. My uncle Martin would agree that we cannot end poverty, hunger, or suffering by killing those who might suffer. We cannot claim to guarantee equal rights if we deny the rights of the helpless. And we cannot feign ignorance of the fact that those who are torn apart, crushed, or left to die on an abortionist's table are just as human as we are."

During her time in Denver this week, King went to a black neighborhood where she joined the Roman Catholic archbishop and other clergy in protesting outside a Planned Parenthood clinic. She has now taken her message to Minneapolis, where Republicans will meet next week. She says she is also meeting with other Christians and praying for America.
 
....It's called truth......

Now I see where we are different...you think your opinion and faith equate to the truth. Unfortunately, whats true for you is not true for others...are you humble enough to open your mind to that idea?

FYI...blind faith does not equate to truth.
 
.....Same sex marriage WILL destroy our country. You tear apart what makes us great, the family, you tear apart our country. It isn't just a religious issue. You cannot separate faith and politics. You can't put one in the corner and leave it for an opportune time, they go hand in hand........

For the record, our country wasn't formed on the basis of family OR religion, it was formed on the basis of Freedom...it was single minded OPINIONS like yours that our founding fathers were running from.
 
Here it is....

I don't believe he is "happy" with sending men and women to war and its not all for weapons of mass destruction

in fact, i know a lot of soldiers who have volunteered to go back over for another tour in Iraq.


Before anyone comments... yes, this has nothing to do with the topic. I am just saying.

Iraq and George Bush... you want to talk about that? Talk about a dead horse.

never said i did want to talk about it. Plus, you mis-understood my comment.
 
Funny how MountainRiderM7 hasn't made a comment in a while:p I think we scared the 17 year old away. This thread is good for all of us, keeps our eyes open and more importantly our MINDS open. Only 3-4 more months and our time will be "on the snow":beer; Oh yeah, go McCain-Palin;)
 
Former Chairman of DNC Fowler caught on tape laughing about Gustav hurricane (most likely) hitting New Orleans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBus8ORR78

What kind of political party would let a guy like Fowler who laughs about a storm that will kill people and destroy business and lifestyles be in charge of its agenda?

This CLEARLY demonstrates how demented some people are in this world.
Even worse is one with so much political influence and power.
 
I'll try and answer all the replies... I don't know how him posting his view is any different than me posting mine... and I already said where I was from, Eastern Washington. The city is Brewster, population 3,000.

I'm not spitting on the constitution, you are. It's called truth. You think the founding fathers would agree with killing a baby? It's pretty certain where I will go with my arguments because I believe in the Bible, the article of which our country was founded. Our country now sucks.... ever wonder why? We now kill babies... it's not a woman's RIGHT to kill a baby, it's a woman's choice to kill a baby. She should have thought about the consequences of a child before she took the steps to make one. No responsiblity. So let's take tax payer monies and kill it. And when are most babies aborted? Long after 11 weeks, so your argument is faulty in that it's just a ball of cells Sturgis. Most abortions take place at 16 to 20 weeks, so you say it's alive then. Murder.

Same sex marriage WILL destroy our country. You tear apart what makes us great, the family, you tear apart our country. It isn't just a religious issue. You cannot separate faith and politics. You can't put one in the corner and leave it for an opportune time, they go hand in hand.

I'm pretty involved in politics... I'll leave it at that.

UNWANTED babies... is that even possible to say? "Hey, who wants that little prick, let's kill it"... hope somebody doesn't say that about you when they have tired of you when you reach 80 yrs old and are considered useless... it's gonna happen if things keep heading the way they are... they already are in other places.

Can a baby just born survive on it's own? Nope, needs parents just like in the womb. Can a just born baby think? Hard to say, needs parents to nurture it. Dude your arguments are terrible....

Never adopted a baby, helped with a few, and donated alot to help needs of all kinds of things I believe in.

Who told me what the right thing to do is? The Bible. Tells me to care for the least of these... I think a child falls under that category.

Proceed.

So what happens when your daughter is walking home and gets raped? Should she just have that baby and deal with it?


congrats man, you are the reason people around the world laugh at America....
 
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