Great new thread, post if you can ......

[H2SNOW]

or it would be a great place to send all the people from Quebec

 

[800storm]

possibly they want their own country anyway. lol

 

[M-ATE]

Its tough to deal rationally with people who see death as winning and even better if they can take as many with them who don't believe the same.
Good riddance to the crazy bastages. They make nothing and nowhere better.

So all muslims are bad people out to kill everyone? That is a pathetic and ignorant thing to believe. Certainly the actions of the bad ones over shadow the good ones. Do you guys even know any muslims? I happen to be friends with a few and they certainly don't want to kill me because I don't believe the same things they do. Just like the bible Islam can be interpreted at different levels. Most muslims don't take it to the extreme and take their life and others for the sake of Allah. I honestly don't think it says anywhere in the Koran that ridding the world of non-muslims is the right thing to do. I may be wrong and if I am will someone please show me this? I believe the ones that are committing these terrible acts are only using Islam as a grounds for justification for what they are doing, however, it is wrongly justified.

 

[H2SNOW]

So all muslims are bad people out to kill everyone? That is a pathetic and ignorant thing to believe. Certainly the actions of the bad ones over shadow the good ones. Do you guys even know any muslims? I happen to be friends with a few and they certainly don't want to kill me because I don't believe the same things they do. Just like the bible Islam can be interpreted at different levels. Most muslims don't take it to the extreme and take their life and others for the sake of Allah. I honestly don't think it says anywhere in the Koran that ridding the world of non-muslims is the right thing to do. I may be wrong and if I am will someone please show me this? I believe the ones that are committing these terrible acts are only using Islam as a grounds for justification for what they are doing, however, it is wrongly justified.

heres one fer ya .....anybody that believes that we are pigs and are direct decendants of monkeys and are infidels because we don't believe in Islam ..need to have their heads examined

trust me there will become a time when your buddies will turn on you to .....if they infact are true Muslims ....their faith will require them to

 

[H2SNOW]

and I warn everyone ...that Obama is the worst thing that we could ever have ...unfortunately it is predestined .....and nothing can be done about it ....

In a few short months, the young and relatively unknown politician Barack Hussein Obama may very well be elevated to the presidency of the United States and command the mightiest military in world history.
Would the eloquent and charismatic Obama unite, inspire and renew a troubled nation, as tens of millions of voters passionately believe? Or is it possible he's a Manchurian candidate – harboring an ominous secret agenda few understand, a man destined to wreak havoc on America should he become president?

That's the question that is explored definitively in the April issue of WND's acclaimed monthly Whistleblower magazine, titled "THE SECRET LIFE OF BARACK OBAMA."

Many consider him nothing less than a savior. They're entranced by Obama and his messianic campaign, which regularly has seen swooning women fainting in his presence. But in addition to the public, the cultural elite and even much of the news media have been likewise captivated. New Age luminary and mega-bestselling author Deepak Chopra says Obama's presidency would "represent a quantum leap in American consciousness," superstar Oprah Winfrey says Obama's "tongue [is] dipped in the unvarnished truth," and MSNBC's "Hardball" anchor Chris Matthews recently gushed, "He [Obama] seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament."

But then, somewhat diminishing the radiant glow of the Obama campaign have been wave after wave of ominous revelations about the young senator from Illinois:

Examination of his U.S. Senate voting record reveals him to be a hard leftist. A little-reported letter from the candidate to the "LGBT community" declares Obama's enthusiastic solidarity with the radical homosexual-rights agenda. His long-time spiritual mentor and pastor turns out to be a rabid, racist, America-hater who claims the U.S. invented AIDS to wipe out black people. Bloggers are even piecing together an intriguing case that Obama, a Muslim in his youth, may still be a closet Muslim.

But there's more – much more.

In "THE SECRET LIFE OF BARACK OBAMA," Whistleblower shines a 1,000-watt spotlight on the real Barack Obama – and reveals him to be one of the most dangerous men ever to be considered for the presidency of the United States of America.

"This issue of Whistleblower is about what's at the heart of Barack Obama," said David Kupelian, managing editor of WND and Whistleblower. "Obama is a man who reflexively, instinctively, will side with what's wrong and harmful for America, and will oppose what's right and good and wholesome for America. It's uncanny. But this profoundly negative orientation is sugar-coated with a charismatic 'positive' persona and beguiling rhetoric."

Issue highlights include:

"A glimpse of the real Obama" by Joseph Farah


"Is Obama the messiah?" by Jerome R. Corsi, on the wave of transcendent fervor over the Democratic candidate


"Swooning supporters fainting at rallies" – the EMTs move it, the candidate at the ready with a water bottle – is it fakery or fanaticism?


"Obamania" by Mary Jo Anderson, on how liberal lives find "meaning"


"The story behind Obama's rise to power" by Jane Chastain, on the rapid and dramatic transformation from state legislator to presidential candidate, with a little help from his friends


"Our first Muslim president?" by Robert Spencer. Many wonder how Obama's Islamic youth would affect his leadership of U.S.


"Tracking Obama's shifting Iraq positions" by Ed Lasky, an in-depth look at how the candidate has repeatedly changed his war stance to win voter approval


"Barack abandons pro-Palestinian stance" by Jerome R. Corsi, on how Muslim critics charge Obama has undergone a Middle East make-over to make himself electable


"Obama pledges support for radical 'gay' agenda" by Art Moore, revealing the senator's little-known letter to the 'LGBT community' affirming he would dump the Defense of Marriage Act


"Using the Sermon on the Mount to defend gay rights"


"Can a Catholic vote for Obama?" by Jack Cashill. "The first thing I'd do as president," Obama told a pro-abortion group, "is sign the Freedom of Choice Act"

"Not God bless, but 'God d--- America!'" Obama's long-time minister Jeremiah Wright also blames the U.S. for 9/11 and AIDS


"Senator's church published Hamas terror manifesto," by Aaron Klein, in which Rev. Wright compares the charter calling for the murder of Jews to the Declaration of Independence


"A brief for whitey" by Patrick J. Buchanan, asking Obama: We hear the criticism toward America, but where's the appreciation?


"Obama mentor identified as communist." Surprise, Frank Marshall Davis, another key influence on the Chicago senator was obsessed with "American imperialism, colonialism, exploitation"


"Obama's 'unity' is not what it seems" by Dennis Prager, who says the candidate's core message, though eloquent, is both dishonest and childish


"The new Jimmy Carter" by Bruce Walker. The title says it all.

 

[ruffryder]

H2SNOW,

Don't worry, if he is a sleeper, he will just get assassinated by the CIA.

I find it interesting that a man who seems to be more truthful and honest than the others must have something big wrong with him.

I think the big issue, is that people want change.... they want a better government, and feel Obama is a step in the right direction. You really like stirring the pot, don't you.

 

[H2SNOW]

H2SNOW,

Don't worry, if he is a sleeper, he will just get assassinated by the CIA.

I find it interesting that a man who seems to be more truthful and honest than the others must have something big wrong with him.

I think the big issue, is that people want change.... they want a better government, and feel Obama is a step in the right direction. You really like stirring the pot, don't you.

nope

 

[chinaman]

this might answer some questions

 

[cmantle1]

heres one fer ya .....anybody that believes that we are pigs and are direct decendants of monkeys and are infidels because we don't believe in Islam ..need to have their heads examined

trust me there will become a time when your buddies will turn on you to .....if they infact are true Muslims ....their faith will require them to

YOU NEED YOUR HEAD EXAMINED

 

[H2SNOW]

YOU NEED YOUR HEAD EXAMINED

.................."This guy is good.....headin to the doc in 1/2 nour" .....

 

[winter brew]

Good thing for checks and balances....the pres. can't to crap on his own as we all know, more of a figurehead than anything else.

 

[M-ATE]

heres one fer ya .....anybody that believes that we are pigs and are direct decendants of monkeys and are infidels because we don't believe in Islam ..need to have their heads examined

trust me there will become a time when your buddies will turn on you to .....if they infact are true Muslims ....their faith will require them to

Show me some proof. Does it say that in the Koran? I want to see it.

 

[Slick]

M-mate, The naive assumption that you voice, that theres no threat posed by this group of radicals is in my opinion a huge part of the problem and ideology like yours is one of the tools that these groups exploit to exist and thrive. The zealots who worship Islam are pledged by their faith to destroy believers in all other faiths.
I assume that includes you and your family and loved ones. It does include me and mine......and I'm not willing to take the chance that I can distinquish between good and bad.
I refuse for me or mine to become victims so I can feel warm & fuzzy about being fair minded to everyone. If you want to risk it, fly at it.
We'll see if you're attitude changes after a loved one of yours has been taken or injured because of some religous, crazy bastard criminal looking forward to meeting the virgins he's been promised in his here-after.
People like you scare me almost as much as they do.

 

[ruffryder]

M-mate, The naive assumption that you voice, that theres no threat posed by this group of radicals is in my opinion a huge part of the problem and ideology like yours is one of the tools that these groups exploit to exist and thrive. The zealots who worship Islam are pledged by their faith to destroy believers in all other faiths.
I assume that includes you and your family and loved ones. It does include me and mine......and I'm not willing to take the chance that I can distinquish between good and bad.
I refuse for me or mine to become victims so I can feel warm & fuzzy about being fair minded to everyone. If you want to risk it, fly at it.
We'll see if you're attitude changes after a loved one of yours has been taken or injured because of some religous, crazy bastard criminal looking forward to meeting the virgins he's been promised in his here-after.
People like you scare me almost as much as they do.

So if he is being naive, how would describe your point of view? It sure isn't reality, just the other extreme. There is so much hate in your words for all Muslims, why? It is not Muslims or Islamic people that want the US to end, it is the extreme Muslim fundamentalists that have that job. I think you are on your way off the deep end.

I don't know what is worse, the Islamic Fundamentalist that wants all Americans dead, or the American that wants all Muslims dead? Sounds like they are both part of the problem.

 

[Slick]

So all muslims are bad people out to kill everyone? That is a pathetic and ignorant thing to believe. Certainly the actions of the bad ones over shadow the good ones. Do you guys even know any muslims? I happen to be friends with a few and they certainly don't want to kill me because I don't believe the same things they do. Just like the bible Islam can be interpreted at different levels. Most muslims don't take it to the extreme and take their life and others for the sake of Allah. I honestly don't think it says anywhere in the Koran that ridding the world of non-muslims is the right thing to do. I may be wrong and if I am will someone please show me this? I believe the ones that are committing these terrible acts are only using Islam as a grounds for justification for what they are doing, however, it is wrongly justified.

Sorry for picking on ya M-mate, but in your above comment, I suggest the Catholics and the Baptists and the Lutheran faith all do the same thing, based on their interpretation of the Bible, they just don't have to kill quite as many innocents (at least not publicly) to achieve their goal.

 

[Slick]

So if he is being naive, how would describe your point of view? It sure isn't reality, just the other extreme. There is so much hate in your words for all Muslims, why? It is not Muslims or Islamic people that want the US to end, it is the extreme Muslim fundamentalists that have that job. I think you are on your way off the deep end.

I don't know what is worse, the Islamic Fundamentalist that wants all Americans dead, or the American that wants all Muslims dead? Sounds like they are both part of the problem.

Let me quess, you think they just need a hug and another chance.

I don't want all Muslims dead, as has been said, I too have friends of middle eastern descent, good friends, but they aren't knocking down buildings and blowing up $hit. They are the ones who want to adapt and conform and practice their beliefs for themselves, no secret agendas.
If you don't see the difference, take off your pink shades.

 

[M-ATE]

[/B]I suggest the Catholics and the Baptists and the Lutheran faith all do the same thing, based on their interpretation of the Bible, they just don't have to kill quite as many innocents (at least not publicly) to achieve their goal.

So then does that make these faiths any better than Islam? I'm just curious as to what you think.

 

[M-ATE]

M-mate, The naive assumption that you voice, that theres no threat posed by this group of radicals is in my opinion a huge part of the problem and ideology like yours is one of the tools that these groups exploit to exist and thrive. The zealots who worship Islam are pledged by their faith to destroy believers in all other faiths.
I assume that includes you and your family and loved ones. It does include me and mine......and I'm not willing to take the chance that I can distinquish between good and bad.
I refuse for me or mine to become victims so I can feel warm & fuzzy about being fair minded to everyone. If you want to risk it, fly at it.
We'll see if you're attitude changes after a loved one of yours has been taken or injured because of some religous, crazy bastard criminal looking forward to meeting the virgins he's been promised in his here-after.
People like you scare me almost as much as they do.

Where have I assumed that all muslims pose no harm? Or that radicals pose no harm?

In your above statement you are classifying all muslims as radicals? What you just stated is exactly what I'm trying to get at. It is an ignorant thought process to classify all muslims as radicals. Yes, we certainly need to keep a watchful eye out for the extreme radicals but I highly doubt the majority of muslims will be the ones strapping bombs to their chest and blowing things up. You are taking the actions of a few and generalizing those actions to an entire population.

If that is the case then for example we should look at all priests as child molesters.

 

[Slick]

Where have I assumed that all muslims pose no harm? Or that radicals pose no harm?

In your above statement you are classifying all muslims as radicals? What you just stated is exactly what I'm trying to get at. It is an ignorant thought process to classify all muslims as radicals. Yes, we certainly need to keep a watchful eye out for the extreme radicals but I highly doubt the majority of muslims will be the ones strapping bombs to their chest and blowing things up. You are taking the actions of a few and generalizing those actions to an entire population.

If that is the case then for example we should look at all priests as child molesters.

No, but it is definetly a generalization that enters most peoples initial thoughts, for example, how you immediately thought of it.

 

[Slick]

So if he is being naive, how would describe your point of view? It sure isn't reality, just the other extreme. There is so much hate in your words for all Muslims, why? It is not Muslims or Islamic people that want the US to end, it is the extreme Muslim fundamentalists that have that job. I think you are on your way off the deep end.

I don't know what is worse, the Islamic Fundamentalist that wants all Americans dead, or the American that wants all Muslims dead? Sounds like they are both part of the problem.

Pragmatic.