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Camoplast Tracks: 2.5" Peak vs. 2.6" Power Claw vs. 3" Challenger Extreme

I don't make bold statements, I state facts. You are the only person I've ever heard say their 3.0 pitch track doesn't vibrate. Be careful with that track it's worth gold.
All 2.86 pitch Camo Extremes are FULLY clipped and have been ever since they came out years ago!! C/E # 9144, # 9102, # 9103,
Lots of 2.52 pitch tracks were Pace 2 and Pace 3 clipping and still smooth as silk.
WOT on a jack stand, there are some great videos on youtube about that.

All 2,86 doo tracks are clipped every other, All 2.52 Doo tracks are the same.Camo,s come fully clipped. I have no vibration . setting the drivers correctly so the track dosnt walk also corrects vibration.installing the driver timing correctly removes vibration , its more than just pressing them on.We have several that run very smooth, Being 3 in. pitch dosnt cause a track to vibrate.
 
I See Anthony Oberti,s been on this thread. Now that Boy can ride, My guess is he,ll be runnin a 156X3 on a 2014 Turbo Pro. Now Ive wiatched him dig and dig before the 3 inch and so far up he was on his own LOL. Put him on a 3 inch and he might be in Big Trouble. jus sayin.:face-icon-small-blu



LOL...yes, a 3" Turbo Pro it is this year, but the 162, not 156". Carl's Cycle is doing it and they are having the tracks special cut from Camoplast so they have a center hole punched. This allows for a new, rounded, center driver. I will be in McCall in two weeks testing her out for the first time. Can't wait :) So far the reports coming in from the new Carl's set-up is very good!
 
LOL...yes, a 3" Turbo Pro it is this year, but the 162, not 156". Carl's Cycle is doing it and they are having the tracks special cut from Camoplast so they have a center hole punched. This allows for a new, rounded, center driver. I will be in McCall in two weeks testing her out for the first time. Can't wait :) So far the reports coming in from the new Carl's set-up is very good!

Sweet. Your talkin a whole new ride. The T -Pro folds over the stock track badly and jus spins. You'll be so frickin hooked up it will be like nothing else! No need for shovel Jus bring friends..
 
Sweet...can't wait!

You will likely need some clutching changes . The 3 inch loads motor very heavy. I reliable veteran and good source told me His T- Pro had issues getting boost/lag since she dont spin easily like the the stock soft track. The track is completely at the other end of the spectrum as far as traction from the Poo rubber.
 
The Carls set up works very well with the drivers and center hole cut in track. We rode two 162" this weekend and a 156" and they are very smooth. Much better than the set up we rode last spring. By the way Byeatts, Anthony does not have any friends, so he better bring his shovel!!:face-icon-small-hap
 
The Carls set up works very well with the drivers and center hole cut in track. We rode two 162" this weekend and a 156" and they are very smooth. Much better than the set up we rode last spring. By the way Byeatts, Anthony does not have any friends, so he better bring his shovel!!:face-icon-small-hap

No friends,,,Hmmm , In his profession he spends most the day with his buddy's bent forward over a bench, Perhaps they have become sore in strange places and wise to it after 5 or so visits.:face-icon-small-sho
 
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What needs to be done to fit the 3" 156 in a 2014 Proclimb 153" ?

I am doing the 3" x 156" track on my prolite and it was recommended that I use 7 tooth drivers and the offset axle kit. this is the way I am going about it, but have heard guys not changing a thing and have no issues. but even with the 7 tooth drivers it is pretty tight...just saying
 
X3X156

I did not like the of set axles so I just ordered 156 Ice age rails black and my 7 tooth drivers. That axle has to weight 4LB rails no weight gain. plus light weight shaft
 
Being 3 in. pitch dosnt cause a track to vibrate.

No you are wrong!!! ALL 3.0 pitch tracks vibrate !!! It's in the timing and harmonics. It's not up to me to school you on this. I've been changing tracks and drivers for 15+ years, and have had many conversations with Camo engineers. This isn't my first rodeo.
 
I am doing the 3" x 156" track on my prolite and it was recommended that I use 7 tooth drivers and the offset axle kit. this is the way I am going about it, but have heard guys not changing a thing and have no issues. but even with the 7 tooth drivers it is pretty tight...just saying

"WHO" recommends using 7 tooth drivers???
"but even with the 7 tooth drivers it is pretty tight...just saying" Tight is Right!!!
My questions to the peeps "recommending 7 tooth drivers"
1.How much clearance is there under acceleration (wot) as the track is "climbing" on the drivers, when it's only 1/8" clearance at a standstill.
2.How's the track speed with all that air concussion and snow in the tunnel?
3.Why have there been so many 3" track failures on 7 tooth drivers and very ,very few on 8 tooth drivers.
4. Why would any "knowledgeable" company (Avid, Powder Freaks, Ice Age, Fast trax, etc) make a extended chaincase or drop and roll kits if 7 tooth drivers are the answer to everything. NOT !!
Don't kid yourself it's all about the money, and to seperate themselves from competition. It's always about the money!

Hooch88 not trying to single you out & no issue with you. I want to thank you for bring up the subject.
 
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No you are wrong!!! ALL 3.0 pitch tracks vibrate !!! It's in the timing and harmonics. It's not up to me to school you on this. I've been changing tracks and drivers for 15+ years, and have had many conversations with Camo engineers. This isn't my first rodeo.

, Ive been sledding for 35 years and build mod sleds. I have no vibration and roll smother than a stock track,along with most all the other fully clipped 7 tooth's ive installed . Ive run 7 Avids,8 Avids, Whals ,as a Hydrology Engineer Ive studied what caused and the cure of vibration,suit yourself.
 
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Well what a anomaly, two guys who both "know" they are right. One 35+ years experiance custom building mod sleds, the other with over 20 years building sleds, selling over 4000+ tracks (getting most of technical advise from engineers who build the tracks) and hundreds upon hundreds of drivers disagreeing on a topic.
Well in Vegas they call it a " push"
My dad always used to tell me "it's a sad day when we don't learn something"
I'm always open to "PROOF" I'm not open to unproven statements.

Have a safe sledding season!!
 
Well what a anomaly, two guys who both "know" they are right. One 35+ years experiance custom building mod sleds, the other with over 20 years building sleds, selling over 4000+ tracks (getting most of technical advise from engineers who build the tracks) and hundreds upon hundreds of drivers disagreeing on a topic.
Well in Vegas they call it a " push"
My dad always used to tell me "it's a sad day when we don't learn something"
I'm always open to "PROOF" I'm not open to unproven statements.

Have a safe sledding season!!

You must have a big door to fit that head through it...?

I know my 3.0 fully clipped with 7 tooth Avids is very smooth, in fact smoother than my old 2.52 pitch powdermax with wahl drivers.

I think the reason you may have seen more track failures with 7 tooth is because there are a lot more 7 tooths out there than 8 tooths on these big lug tracks.....easier to throw in 7 tooths than a D&R with 8 tooths. Most take the easy/cheaper route. I work with engineers frequently that build $50+ million dollar flying pressurized tubes that haul people across the globe and I'd like to strangle some of them engineers for being dumber than dumb at times.
 
I did not like the of set axles so I just ordered 156 Ice age rails black and my 7 tooth drivers. That axle has to weight 4LB rails no weight gain. plus light weight shaft

dumb question I looked on Ice Age's website and arctic cat does not option a 156 rail...did you just get a Polaris rail? might have to wait until next year for that addition...
 
dumb question I looked on Ice Age's website and arctic cat does not option a 156 rail...did you just get a Polaris rail? might have to wait until next year for that addition...

Hooch88: I'm thread poachin here, if you want a answer to what we do with all our 153 to 156 conversions send me a PM. If I answer on here my head might get to big!!! LOL Typical forum B.S.
 
You must have a big door to fit that head through it...?

I really don't care what you think or say, you have just shown me what kind of personality you have when you insult others when they did not address you. Typical forum B.S.

I know my 3.0 fully clipped with 7 tooth Avids is very smooth, in fact smoother than my old 2.52 pitch powdermax with wahl drivers.

You better keep that set up as I told Byatts it's worth gold.

I think the reason you may have seen more track failures with 7 tooth is because there are a lot more 7 tooths out there than 8 tooths on these big lug tracks.....easier to throw in 7 tooths than a D&R with 8 tooths. Most take the easy/cheaper route.

Now you have finally said something that I will agee with!!!
I work with engineers frequently that build $50+ million dollar flying pressurized tubes that haul people across the globe and I'd like to strangle some of them engineers for being dumber than dumb at times.

If I did what you do I'd need a much bigger door.
 
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If I did what you do I'd need a much bigger door.

Could it simply be that proper install /setup of the drivers and fully clipped tracks roll Smooth? We have many that work seamlessly and smooth.You argue Evey 3 inch driver vibrates and thats simply not the case. Perhaps even You can learn something,,
 
hey guys, so a rock ate my track and it seems like an overwhelming win for the 3". sounds like lots of pro's on this thread are running them, but are any of you guys running an x3 on an xm? I would be running a stock 156 and was recommended avid 7 tooth drivers. Being stock, would it handle the added load? I was talking to someone about it and they mentioned that it would be changing the attack angle :face-icon-small-con but I'm way too dumb to follow there where the detriment or gains would come from when it comes to attack angles... can anyone help a guy out who didn't pay attention when the teacher was talking??

thanks in advance!
 
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