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Albany Parking Area

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You bought the cabin knowing that you couldn't get to it in the winter with your "rig".

Deal with it.

How about I come up in the summer and park in your driveway for a few days while I go camping?


Perhaps he is like my parents and bought his cabin years ago when overnight parking wasn't an issue. My parents have since made other arrangements and do not park in the albany lot, but when they bought their land and built the cabin (7-8 years ago) overnight parking in that lot was not an issue.

What if you park in someones driveway and camp? That's a simple one :) you are trespassing :) (since we are now geting all fired up on legal issues on this thread!)
 
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Perhaps he is like my parents and bought his cabin years ago when overnight parking wasn't an issue. My parents have since made other arrangements and do not park in the albany lot, but when they bought their land and built the cabin (7-8 years ago) overnight parking in that lot was not an issue.

What if you park in someones driveway and camp? That's a simple one :) you are trespassing :) (since we are now geting all fired up on legal issues on this thread!)

Oh I know the situation has changed quite a bit in just the last 3 years.
His tone just pissed me off.
I truly don't care if someone parks in the lot overnight or not. Just be curtious and take up as little space as possible.
 
So how many cheeseburgers and beers do you sell to the folks camping in the lot- Do you remind folks it is not a camping area??? Remember be part of the solution and be proactive- Right:face-icon-small-win

And in their defence.
Not their job to police the lot.
They will take their equipment over and pull people out that have gotten stuck in the lot. I have no problems with the lodge, and yes, they have seperate parking for their guests.
 
I realize this thread is about Albany but I have a question about Greenrock. Is it considered "overnight camping" if I leave my enclosed trailer at greenrock overnight ?

If you would have read all the posts in this thread you could have answered your own question. Green Rock has a white & black regulatory sign posted NO OVERNIGHT PARKING. The fine is $110, and also you can get your trailer towed as an abandoned vehicle if it is not moved in 24 hours.
 
I just want to clarify my feelings a little here. The Albany parking lot needs help! Just the lot, the Albany Lodge and it's people that work there are, in my eyes, class A. If it wasn't such a great place, or at least a place that people like, we probably would not have these issues. The lodge is located in an almost perfect place, but we still all have to get along and follow some rules set by the forest service. 90% of the time I unload in the Albany lot, do my riding, and end up eating or drinking for a bit until I go down the hill, they have never been anything but good to me. If the berm would be put in place again, such as Ollie and many others have requested, I think a lot of the parking issues would clear themselves up, but the overnight parking is still a no-no as far as the forest service is concerned. I would love to park in Albany overnight to stay at the cabin a couple of days, but don't want my equipment towed, and really hate leaving my rig sitting on the side of the road in the fox park parking area, but when we stay at the cabin,we park by fox park. Let's all just get along, enjoy the gift we have here, and keep the Lodge going strong. Let's complain to the forest service to put the middle burm up, and then when we see someone parking a little stupid or parking their rigs for multiple days, kindly ask them to at least move it every day so it appears that they are not there overnight. And don't freak out on someone if they ask you to move your vehicle, just kindly ask why, and when told why, oblige, it will help us all. Clearing the lot every night definately helps the groomers keep a nice lot for all of us to enjoy. 38 more hours and i'm on the mountain!!! Whoo hooo
 
I just want to clarify my feelings a little here. The Albany parking lot needs help! Just the lot, the Albany Lodge and it's people that work there are, in my eyes, class A. If it wasn't such a great place, or at least a place that people like, we probably would not have these issues. The lodge is located in an almost perfect place, but we still all have to get along and follow some rules set by the forest service. 90% of the time I unload in the Albany lot, do my riding, and end up eating or drinking for a bit until I go down the hill, they have never been anything but good to me. If the berm would be put in place again, such as Ollie and many others have requested, I think a lot of the parking issues would clear themselves up, but the overnight parking is still a no-no as far as the forest service is concerned. I would love to park in Albany overnight to stay at the cabin a couple of days, but don't want my equipment towed, and really hate leaving my rig sitting on the side of the road in the fox park parking area, but when we stay at the cabin,we park by fox park. Let's all just get along, enjoy the gift we have here, and keep the Lodge going strong. Let's complain to the forest service to put the middle burm up, and then when we see someone parking a little stupid or parking their rigs for multiple days, kindly ask them to at least move it every day so it appears that they are not there overnight. And don't freak out on someone if they ask you to move your vehicle, just kindly ask why, and when told why, oblige, it will help us all. Clearing the lot every night definately helps the groomers keep a nice lot for all of us to enjoy. 38 more hours and i'm on the mountain!!! Whoo hooo


Well said!!
 
I just wanted to thank the little B**ch that left me the red rep and didn't have enough of a sack to sign his name to it. He made some comment about me being a local. Proud of it. Have a little respect when you're up here or stay in whatever place has to claim you. I'll bet if I showed up where ever you live and act like you(I'd use your name but you don't have any balls) do when you're here, you wouldn't care for it much. I've never red repped anyone but you can bet if I do, I'll leave my name.
 
I apologize for coming on a little strong earlier in this thread. I kind of took it the wrong way to just pin-point campers. I understand that rules are rules and a lot of things need to be done to help out this situation. Am I in the wrong for overnight parking? Yes according to the sign. However leaving and coming back the next day is not going to help the space issue which is 75% of the complaints here. The burm would help establish rows like it has in years past. I also agree that this area is busy Christmas and New Years week and tends to calm down after that. That is the reason we did not go to that area then.

And as far as what I said about the money issue I didn't mean because we spend X amount that gives us more of a right. I meant it in a way that these local businesses thrive on winter money that is spent, regardless if it's $20 or $10000. If it turns into a pissing match I'll just find a different area to ride and so will others. That's money out of Laramie's and Albany's business pockets. Now if somebody came up with a solution such as volunteer help, cash donation, or even a bigger parking fee to get things corrected then I am all for it. Let me know.

I also didn't mean that you guys don't have a right to call officials on things going on either. Riding in these areas is a privilege that's on thin ice. Keep complaining to the right people and they are finally going to get sick of it and shut it down. Then what? If a guy is going to complain about it to officials keep it in a positive yet suggestive manner.

As far as, Rockdog said about $5 for that size of rig is absurd. According to him rules are rules and they must be followed. If the forest service says $5 for a unit then it's $5 a unit. I usually buy the seasonal permit anyway. Is this set fee right on how it is established? Probably not. It should be on axles or size. To complicated I'm sure. But keep in mind you complained about all campers without narrowing on just a few. So right there you left it open to contradicting what you initially said about taking up space when we are actually taking up less.

And as far as Albany Lodge goes about parking their guest trailers over their, I wouldn't be harping on them to much about it. They are some of the nicest people a guy could get to know. Everybody has a breaking point, and keep pushing it to see if they're ever over pulling you out, using their shop heat for no fee to figure your sled out, and taking parts off their buddies sled to help you. Probably won't happen.

That's about all I have to say for now. If somebody comes up with a solution that makes sense let me know I am more than willing to help.

I know I might have grammer problems, but would somebody please tell Rockdog how to spell "forest" it would be greatly appreciated. For heaven sakes man, I got a 3 year old nephew that can spell that word.
 
I apologize for coming on a little strong earlier in this thread. I kind of took it the wrong way to just pin-point campers. I understand that rules are rules and a lot of things need to be done to help out this situation. Am I in the wrong for overnight parking? Yes according to the sign. However leaving and coming back the next day is not going to help the space issue which is 75% of the complaints here. The burm would help establish rows like it has in years past. I also agree that this area is busy Christmas and New Years week and tends to calm down after that. That is the reason we did not go to that area then.

And as far as what I said about the money issue I didn't mean because we spend X amount that gives us more of a right. I meant it in a way that these local businesses thrive on winter money that is spent, regardless if it's $20 or $10000. If it turns into a pissing match I'll just find a different area to ride and so will others. That's money out of Laramie's and Albany's business pockets. Now if somebody came up with a solution such as volunteer help, cash donation, or even a bigger parking fee to get things corrected then I am all for it. Let me know.

I also didn't mean that you guys don't have a right to call officials on things going on either. Riding in these areas is a privilege that's on thin ice. Keep complaining to the right people and they are finally going to get sick of it and shut it down. Then what? If a guy is going to complain about it to officials keep it in a positive yet suggestive manner.

As far as, Rockdog said about $5 for that size of rig is absurd. According to him rules are rules and they must be followed. If the forest service says $5 for a unit then it's $5 a unit. I usually buy the seasonal permit anyway. Is this set fee right on how it is established? Probably not. It should be on axles or size. To complicated I'm sure. But keep in mind you complained about all campers without narrowing on just a few. So right there you left it open to contradicting what you initially said about taking up space when we are actually taking up less.

And as far as Albany Lodge goes about parking their guest trailers over their, I wouldn't be harping on them to much about it. They are some of the nicest people a guy could get to know. Everybody has a breaking point, and keep pushing it to see if they're ever over pulling you out, using their shop heat for no fee to figure your sled out, and taking parts off their buddies sled to help you. Probably won't happen.

That's about all I have to say for now. If somebody comes up with a solution that makes sense let me know I am more than willing to help.

I know I might have grammer problems, but would somebody please tell Rockdog how to spell "forest" it would be greatly appreciated. For heaven sakes man, I got a 3 year old nephew that can spell that word.

Thanks for the spelling lesson skidoo eater. I'll take note of it. I'll bet you hit the spell check a couple of times before you sent that post. Feel free to leave a message on my profile telling me yourself next time. I would have never of ripped on you for your English skills and I never did. You opened the door so here we go.
Besides your grammar problem, you have a word usage problem also (fifth paragraph, first sentence- And as far as Albany Lodge goes about parking their guest trailers over their). Nice! Paragraph 4, sentence 8(you made this personal), To complicated. You probably meant "Too complicated" or maybe it was just too complicated. Want me to keep going? I guess you never heard, or should I say herd, of glass houses and throwing stones. I also guess this thread isn’t really about my spelling or your grammar and word usage either. It’s about being considerate at the parking lot. A concept you struggle with. We shouldn't have to talk you into doing what's right.
As for the "money" thing in your original post, it's exactly what it sounds like. You think because you spend some money that you have some entitlement. It sure sounded like that to me and a few others. Don't forget, we all spend lots of money.
Please do find another place to park(it was your idea) and take with you your efficient parking lot mathematics and anyone who behaves like you do. I would guess you will just act the same way at your new spot. Try Revy or Island Park and see how long they put up with your b.s. Just because you don’t like or agree with the rules doesn’t give you the right to disregard them, especially at the expense of the rest of us. The rules seem easy enough to follow for most of us.
You regurgitated the same tired excuses in your last post that you gave in your others. You just “sugared” it up a little.
Once again, thanks for the spelling lesson. I'll go back and fix the errors just for you skidoo eater. Feel free to check this post for any errors and let me know. It could be a little like finding Waldo for you. It’s also a great way of deflecting the issue. Hope I could help you in your continuing grammar and word usage endeavors. As for your nephew (who you brought into this), maybe you could ask him for some pointers. He sounds like a sharp little fellow.

Forest Service 307-745-2300
There is a comment form in the "contact us"section

Albany County Sheriff 307 721 2526 Danny Ponds is the Sheriff, ask for him


This message has been edited to add the above phone numbers, not for skidoo eater who earlier, graciously pointed out my incorrect spelling of the word "forest". I caught it this time. Thank you skidoo eater. You changed my life.
 
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do i have to get parking permit to park in lot near wycolo?
Thanks

To be honest, I have no idea.
I bet you could call Wycolo lodge and ask. They would prob. know, or the forest service.

My understanding of the pay to park deal is at they upgrade the various areas it will go to pay to park. Eventually, it will all be pay to park.
 
so really to fix 99% of this problem we need to teach people to read and park accordingly to the sign? $hit we are so phu(ked! people taking responsibilty and following instructions, I know that sign is written in like rocket science or something because every time i go up there it is retarded, you know like "look at me parking lot people!" I can climb A cup hill over and over with my RMK Mod 800, but yet I am too retarded to park my rig in accordance to the sign.
 
Do we need to have a group hug??

Group hugs are good. I apologize for my sharp tone concerning this matter. It's very easy for me to get on a "High Horse", I follow the rules. I leave my rig at home because there is no legal overnight parking. The rules are the rules and it's a shame that we have to tell anyone that they need to be followed and there is no justification for not following them. If they were being followed, we would not even be having this conversation (I believe the original point of this thread was to discuss inconsiderate parking practices by those camping out and not the size of the lot). Many people using these parking lots (including myself) would just like a fair chance of getting a parking spot in the morning. I'm lucky. I only drive 85 miles in the morning. Some guys might drive 200 or more and it's discouraging to find 10 campers taking up so much parking for days at a time. Thanks for reading my two cents.
 
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Not the public's problem- Why should the public pay for your parking??
Nuff said

Because many of us that own cabins in Albany county pay more in property taxes than you do in your home and the lot is Albany county property.

This appears to be the have-nots jealous of those who have, cabins, motorhomes etc. What a bunch of cry babies, get a life, yes everyone needs to use a little common sense when parking. More constructive discussion about proper parking would help, but bad mouthing people who camp or park overnight isn't the answer. The parking problem has always been, its nothing new and it isn't much worse than past years. I don't use the lot much anymore, as I pay a local for parking, but many of our family members and friends still use it and deal with it without problems. As for the Lodge benifiting from its use, what would you expect, they pay a large amount of property taxes as well, supporting the services that we all benifit from. Also the Lodge does a lot to keep pressure on the state to effectively keep the area trails in good shape.

So stop whinning and pass the info. along to other sledders on how to properly park, offering suggestions rather then critisism.

If anything this post has been educational and entertaining :)
 
Whining to the Forest Service is like poking a sleeping Pit Bull with a stick, it is eventually going to bite you in the a$$. They love conflict, it gives them an easy excuse to close things, then it's problem solved for them.

Also, I thought that the cabin owners were grandfathered in as long as they had a "resident" sign in their window with their cabin address? I've seen them doing this over at Tic's.
 
Wow, I didn't know anything about a resident sticker in the window....Going to have to ask about that today when I stop by the forest service. I would gladly slap a sticker in the window and give em an address of where the cabin is if that is going to work! Thanks for the heads up wyomojo:)
 
Group hugs are good. I apologize for my sharp tone concerning this matter. It's very easy for me to get on a "High Horse", I follow the rules. I leave my rig at home because there is no legal overnight parking. The rules are the rules and it's a shame that we have to tell anyone that they need to be followed and there is no justification for not following them. If they were being followed, we would not even be having this conversation (I believe the original point of this thread was to discuss inconsiderate parking practices by those camping out and not the size of the lot). Many people using these parking lots (including myself) would just like a fair chance of getting a parking spot in the morning. I'm lucky. I only drive 85 miles in the morning. Some guys might drive 200 or more and it's discouraging to find 10 campers taking up so much parking for days at a time. Thanks for reading my two cents.

Good points, and thanks for apologizing to everyone. If I have not, I apologize too, to everyone on here.

I think that we can all agree that the problem is not the size of rig, or where you are from, but if you can follow the rules or not.

Thanks.
 
Whats with all the touchy feely crap?

Who cares if you step on some toes so long as you get your point across, some people take stuff posted online waaaaaaaaaay too serious...
 
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