Which sled should I purchase the 2013 Pro or 2013 Ski doo

[wildcard28]

before I purchased my Doo, rode Cats, 96` 580 great dependable sled, no mods cause you really couldn`t do any unless you swapped out new skid, maybe some motor mods but price just wasn`t worth it and hard to find but overall most dependable sled I ever owned, then purchased a 97 summit 670 great sled modded it out then converted to a tripple only rode one season before I decided to step up to a better chassis after riding a few Cats and Doo set down chassis`s and I tell ya if I was seriously lookin to buy an 05` M7, black with the factory flamed side decals really an awesome lookin sled, 153 track, all stock other than a boondocker box added to it, got approved for finance and went back to get it and it was sold, So soon after I got a great deal on my Rev, all my buddies rode doos and a couple polaris`s, towed every one of the Poos out of the hills, buddies who rode doo`s still do everyone else everyother brand has jumped ship to Doo`s at there own choice and absolutely no pressure from us doo riders, one bud still rides a Cat and its a 1000 MC mod, nice sled.

I see lots of Pro on the hills and they do nice moves on them but alot of breakdowns overall.

I have 2 Doo`s now, Wife rides the 97` summit I mentioned earlier that has been swapped back to a 617 twin for her. anyway If I really had the money to buy a back up sled for myself it would no doubt be an M7 or an 09`M8 sorry but only Poo I would ever own is an IQR and make a moutain sled out of it with a Doo 809 Tripple, yhae.

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[Seeker]

Snowmobiler..sorry about the long corner time, been busy for the last couple days. I am just giving you a hard time anyway, don't take it too personally we are all in this for the same reasons.

You guys are a tough crowd & it seems like we have some die hard doo fans and at least 1 AC guy, that's fine because it keeps it interesting. I actually like to ride with all brands of sleds so I can have to opportunity to see how they all measure up against each other. That is how/why I switched to Polaris, I had a buddy who bought one in 2011 & it hands down outperformed my Ski Doo XP & both my father in law and I snow checked 2012 pro's the next year.
All that I can say is that I am on my 3rd Pro & I really like them, the chassis rules, it goes exactly where & when I want it to go. It is very light, extremely nimble & gets up on top of the snow quicker than any other current stock sled. The 2013 Pro 155 that I had last year was the best out of the box sled I have ever ridden with zero problems & it put a huge smile on my face every time I rode it. I am hoping that the 2014 I have ordered will be further improved. Sure...I wish it had a rock solid titanium frame, 200 reliable stock HP & had stock shocks that would make the top Jackson Hill Climbers jealous...But then the price would be unrealistic. I wish that it had more power, but to Polaris's defense, neither AC or Doo would outperform it in the deep snow. I also get a 4 year warranty & my dealer (Craig Power Sports) has always taken care of any issues that I have had spot on, can't really ask for more....

 

[wildcard28]

Glad your Happy with your sled, cause thats really all that matters, Huh.

No matter what brand period or what any of us consider to be best, worst, good or bad. again it all comes down to what we are personaly happy with and like as a Sled, Car, Bike etc...

Every or anybody can have different luck with any manufacturer sled ya know, Die hard Cat guy could smoke bests and the next cat guy can put a couple years on one, Some Polaris rider have engine troubles others don`t for example its all what and how you do it. No matter how much power a sled comes with we will never be happy with that number and always want more, Its gear head Nature.

Good Luck, and hope we All have a fun and safe season no matter what you ride!!! Anysled now adays are a Huge diffference and makes us all better riders over some of the older Iron, then again How many sledders out there ride older Iron and can outride others on New sleds? There is alot of riders like that also, My Best riding Friend rides a 97` Summit 190+hp Tripple Mod sled and I and many of us have seen him outride, Climb and Boondock Any other sled we have ever been with, Thats a good rider on a 2K sled smoking 10k+ sleds, He can get on my sled and outride me when we really don`t swap sled alots I get on his and the Power is pulls your shoulders soar but sled feels heavier and harder to manuever even tho it has a Huge list of lightweight parts. Its really an impressive site.

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[snowmobiler]

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[suitcase]

You sure can see the start of the late summer blues in this Thread.. LMAO !! come on winter.

Yep which sled to buy?? just pick one and go!! Ford Chevy Dodge ? GMC ? lol

 

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[rmscustom]

Great illustration snowmobiler except there is a misprint... Hp should be replaced with weight.

 

[MtnCrazy]

The one that fits you and your riding style the best.

 

[347strokin]

First off I will start by saying that I am not brand loyal, however I do try to go with the best sled for the type of riding that I do and when someone asks me my opinion, I am as honest as I can be.
I will give you the fact that the Ski Doo Rev was a good chassis, I had one (2005 800X) and after working out bugs for most of the winter it actually ran pretty good and the chassis was a step in the right direction. When Doo came out with the XP, I gave it a year and bought a 2009 800X...Huge mistake. I am not going to go into great detail, but the sled was a total POS & it ate a belt on every ride I went on, yes, every ride (very expensive). The belt issue was not even the biggest problem, the chassis just plain sucked, it felt like it had lead weight between the skis and when you get one stuck, you needed 3 men and a donkey to get the fat heavy pig unstuck...as a matter of fact, pretty much everything about the XP chassis just felt wrong. I am not sure who's head was up who's butt when Ski Doo thought the XP was an "improvement" over the rev because they were dead wrong, the XP was a design setback. I personally think Ski Doo's biggest problem is that they keep trying to design a Mountain sled that is good on the bumps and corners on trails....Who really cares..Make a sled that performs in the steep and deep, forget everything else and start there and always keep that your main focus.

Last year I rode a 2013 Polaris Pro 800 155 & I went riding with some people who had some of the new Ski Doos. Before the ride we were in the parking lot and I was told how great these new Doos were and how they were such a huge improvement over the "Old XP" like I had. I gave them the benefit of the doubt and we took off riding for the day. The snow was about 2'-6"-3' of new powder on a pretty deep base around late january in the Colorado mountains....basically a perfect riding day and a great test for the new Doos. The Ski Doo riders struggled with anything technical and when they got stuck it was like old times, they were hard as hell to pull out...After pulling one of the riders out of another stick, I said just for fun, lets switch sleds for a little bit and you tell me what you think and vice versa, so we did. I am going to be totally honest here, I couldn't get the Doo back to its owner fast enough. The difference between the Pro and Doo is night and day, the Pro dominated the Doo's all day long in everything we rode in, the more technical the worse it was for the Doos. The Ski Doo riders told me that they could not believe how much better the Pro was and that they "bought the wrong sled".

I could go on, but honestly just take a seat on both sleds inside the show room, look how fat/wide the doo looks and how streamlined the Pro is. The Pro is like a fine sports car and the doo is best compared to a Manatee. Then go ride both of them and if you can ride the sled like it was meant to be, you will see what I am talking about. Polaris has had a few set backs just like the other brands but I am telling you that Polaris has had a winner in this chassis since 2011 & no other brand currently comes close and that is the truth. For Ski Doos sake, I hope they figure out what makes the Polaris chassis such an A$$ kicker and design a decent chassis for 2015...Geeze, they have been putting bandaid's on the XP for far to long now. Come on guys, "T Motion", what a joke, that is a cheesy azz fix to a much larger problem.....Polaris Pro's will once again rule the mountain this year.

Uh huh, uh huh. Lol. Good story.

 

[Freezedried]

Buy Both, XM and Pro

To simplify everything and I assume you have deep pockets like we all do because we ride mountain sleds.

Buy Both and Skidoo XM and a Polaris Pro Rmk

Then gut the Skidoo for its motor and part out the rest, take that wonderful piece of Rotax engineering, the 800 Etec Motor and drop it in the Pro chassis, you can re-use the stock pipe, and can with some mods and the motor fits. Even grab the gauge cluster and put that on. Now you have an excellent chassis and one of the best motors out there.

I guess you call it Skilaris or Pro-Doo or something like that. There will be one on the snow this winter in Alaska, the build is getting documented on another forum.

You could even skip the Etec motor and put a Trygstad built 800R and have power to spare.

if anyone hears about a Pro chassis with a blown motor in Alaska, let me know

 

[GoBigParts]

The Pro is a complete copy of what skidoo did back in uh 04`, looks alot like the Rev also. That started all Rider forward technology to every manufacturer to this day, took Polaris till what 2012 to finaly figure this out?? Yes the IQ is a good sled but those didn`t seem to have near the engine and drive system problems like the Pro does now. crankshaft failure has to be the biggest Pro topic for the last couple years. watch this and any other multibrand forum and keep watchin how so many are or have Jumped Ship to the XM. and are very happy with it straight out of the box.

Better chassis, What year is it? and when was the latest chassis just released, First Rider Forward Design 03` Rev Chassis, 08` Xp chassis and last year. Skidoo XM 2013. Less than every 5yrs they put a radicaly more improved Sled on the Mountains or trails. Can`t wait for there next one.

This post makes ones wonder if you have ever rode a ProRMK. How do you do you make comments on it with out ever riding one? If this was the case how was the 2011 ProRMK so sucessful right out of the gate. I believe this sled converted a lot of people over to Polaris brought some back to Polaris. I don't believe there would have been so much buzz about the PRORMK if you could just ride your 04 REV and be as good or better.

I used to own a REV, and the majority of my riding group has XP's and XM's. I have rode them all including the new XM. I will start out by saying I like the XM, the PRORMK and the Proclimb cat.

Now back to the REV. To say the Proride (rmk) chassis is a "complete Copy" of the REV could not be further from the truth. Again makes me wonder if you have seen one under the hood. Yes the Proride is rider forward but I don't believe it is as much as the rev which is a good thing. The bulkhead is cast and is very rigid. I believe this is why they handle so well. When your body puts input to the sled it responds right away with out all the chassis flex and what not that you get from a non cast bulkhead (formed sheet aluminum). This makes the sled very "flickable". The other nice thing about the bulkhead on the ProRide or even the older IQ is you could hit stumps or even rip your A-arm clean off and have no damage to the bulkhead. I remember the days of doing this on REV's and having them fold up a like a beer can and or replacing flying nuns.

I converted from a REV to an IQ RMK and liked the RMK better for the type of riding I do. The REV felt to trail like and is a great trail sled. Very rider forward and very low center of gravity which makes it good on the trail but also makes it feel to ski heavy and planted while boondocking. Something you never feel on an IQ or PRoRMK. To me the REV and Proride are not at all very common to each other.

The XM is a nice sled and a step in the right direction for Ski-doo. I feel though that it is a modified XP chassis. Ski-doo started bringing the ski stance in back in 2011 and are now the narrowest of all the brands for the mountain segment. They also added the T-motion bendy suspension and track to improve their handling. All of these things worked to make it handle better but are more of band-aids to the XP chassis. I did ride one and liked it. Did it handle better than the ProRMK? For me it did not but I am used to the Polaris. I could actually for the point where the T-motion travel stopped and then it took more of my strength to keep rolling it or hold it where I wanted. The fit and finish is really good on the XM. The motor does seem to have less issues. However, I do know several people that had 2011 Etecs go down. I'm sure they have made improvements to the motor since. The Cat motor is the most solid but it is dirty. The reason you are seeing Yamaha 4 strokes in cats is to meet EPA requirements which their 800 does not do. I believe this is why you see more issues with the POO and Doo motors.

With all that said I would take any brand 2 stoke mountain sled right now. They are all pretty nice and way more capable then what we had in 04.

 

[insanity]

To simplify everything and I assume you have deep pockets like we all do because we ride mountain sleds.

Buy Both and Skidoo XM and a Polaris Pro Rmk

Then gut the Skidoo for its motor and part out the rest, take that wonderful piece of Rotax engineering, the 800 Etec Motor and drop it in the Pro chassis, you can re-use the stock pipe, and can with some mods and the motor fits. Even grab the gauge cluster and put that on. Now you have an excellent chassis and one of the best motors out there.

I guess you call it Skilaris or Pro-Doo or something like that. There will be one on the snow this winter in Alaska, the build is getting documented on another forum.

You could even skip the Etec motor and put a Trygstad built 800R and have power to spare.

if anyone hears about a Pro chassis with a blown motor in Alaska, let me know

Seriously cool concept!


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