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Jaynelson
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I just call em as I sees em.
It's nice to not have to wait long to illustrate your point with real life examples. I'm sure more are coming soon!
What’d you think of trunp’s ideas to curb school shootings
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It's nice to not have to wait long to illustrate your point with real life examples. I'm sure more are coming soon!
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jerrydecoy
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Better take all the guns away from discharged military... cuz of what happened to Chris Kyle. Real estate investors shouldn’t be allowed to own one cuz of padduck!!! Give me a break!!! You know better! That teacher wasn’t asked to carry and defend the school. He’s no different then anyone else who brings a gun to school illegally! Your “real life example” is silly!
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Jaynelson
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Not an example...real life event. Doubt it was described as "silly" at the time. You think more guns is the answer...I think less guns is the answer. So far I'm winning! Let me know when the U.S. has less school shootings than other countries with strict gun laws and I'm all ears.
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jerrydecoy
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Ya ok! This got stupid!!! A f’d up teacher who illegally brings a gun to school proves what? Oh I see your point... ban em’ all!!! Stay north!!! It was a handgun and not the big bad AR this time. Maybe if the school had an armed security guard???
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Jaynelson
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Maybe if all the kids had guns to protect against an armed teacher or security guard gone loopy. And the kids that weren't able to use a weapon could have service dogs...with guns.
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jerrydecoy
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I highly doubt your gonna see fewer guns. I doubt you’ll ever see mass shootings completely stop and I doubt we’ll ever have less then countries with stricter gun laws. I do believe we could have fewer without banning anymore guns!
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jerrydecoy
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Intelligent!!! All this talk has got me thinking I need a new one. My
Local store is having a sale on AR’s! Got the flyer yesterday!
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Jaynelson
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All the focus on the AR is definitely a joke...that I won’t argue.
Some teachers could be trained to carry or have it in a lock box. They could pay them more because it would cost more for a security guard. It could be a job requirement.it wouldn't have to be every teacher. Just a percentage thing. If don't want to do it hire one that will. Kind of like working at a Ford dealership and not wanting to work on Ford's. Get them all the training they need and require annual refresher courses that are mandatory. People gripe how low paid they are. This would pay more. The other bonus is there would be right leaning teachers in schools for a change.
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Jaynelson
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More like working in a Ford dealership and not wanting to have gun fights at work....no?
You think more right wing people will become teachers because they like the idea of a job with opportunity to shoot bad guys? Or are you thinking there are currently right wing would-be teachers being turned down for teaching positions because shooting skills are not currently part of the interview process...and this would increase their chances?
I honestly can’t tell if that’s a smart *** question or a real one because this concept is just so crazy to me.
Regarding that clown in Georgia- for what its worth, he tried to keep people out of his classroom. It doesn't sound like he meant harm to anyone. Unfortunate situation with horrible timing! Anyways...
My wife is a teacher in a pretty rough school. Law enforcement is at the school at least weekly- in an elementary school! Full disclosure- its on a reservation lol. I (she as well) wish she could carry in the school for the protection of herself and those around her.
In a previous (nicer district) school, they actually drilled with the sheriff's dept. and were REQUIRED to carry a weapon in the classroom. Now, these weren't firearms, but things such as golf clubs, baseball bats, etc. At least you're not defenseless!
A big problem is bureaucracy within the districts. You can't just kick kids out of PUBLIC school just because they are troubled- unfortunately they still have a right to a public education, along with your children.
I honestly wish the old-school physical discipline was allowed. But then you'd have people trying to ban rulers because little Johnny $hithead cried when he got smacked with one... Maybe some character building would be good for the spineless youth?
But hey, she's just a red-blooded, patriotic Army veteran that's helping some extremely disadvantaged children... not some limp-wristed pu$$y lunatic trying to hurt kids.
My wife is a teacher in a pretty rough school. Law enforcement is at the school at least weekly- in an elementary school! Full disclosure- its on a reservation lol. I (she as well) wish she could carry in the school for the protection of herself and those around her.
In a previous (nicer district) school, they actually drilled with the sheriff's dept. and were REQUIRED to carry a weapon in the classroom. Now, these weren't firearms, but things such as golf clubs, baseball bats, etc. At least you're not defenseless!
A big problem is bureaucracy within the districts. You can't just kick kids out of PUBLIC school just because they are troubled- unfortunately they still have a right to a public education, along with your children.
I honestly wish the old-school physical discipline was allowed. But then you'd have people trying to ban rulers because little Johnny $hithead cried when he got smacked with one... Maybe some character building would be good for the spineless youth?
But hey, she's just a red-blooded, patriotic Army veteran that's helping some extremely disadvantaged children... not some limp-wristed pu$$y lunatic trying to hurt kids.
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jerrydecoy
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A gun did a good thing! Imagine that!!! This kind of stuff goes on all the time but it doesn’t make the news. If the liberals treated the 2nd amendment like they do the others it would damn near be mandatory to own a gun!!!
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/concealed...ots-kills-162203257--abc-news-topstories.html
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/concealed...ots-kills-162203257--abc-news-topstories.html
And I bet you pricks just cant wait until something else happens so you can
point out and yap about how great Canada is and how the US should copy every law and policy that your perfect country has. Right?
I am saying most liberals hate guns. Completely over your head. i didn't say anything about being turned down because of shooting skills. You should re read. I am saying a percentage should be hired as teachers and to carry or have access to a gun. Part of the requirements. Training is also a requirement. I repeat, kind of like having to work on Ford's to work at a ford dealerdhip. How many depends on size of the school. They will get paid more and 99.9% will never have to do anything. Not such a hard concept. Might save money over a security guard. When you hire someone for a job there are requirements for that job. This is no different.
For the record, I disagree with our great President Trump on this.
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Jaynelson
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No, this is different because you are changing the requirements of a job with a very long standing/well established job description. That said, as I mentioned a few times, if that’s the best/only solution on the table, and you have people willing to participate...might as well, at least it’s something. I just don’t see it having the desired affect...but that’s JMO
Who cares if I'm changing requirements. Different world. I don't know if it is the best solution. It's an option. I don't want anyone who doesn't like guns or isn't comfortable, doing it.
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jerrydecoy
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Ya I’m not sure what he was thinking??? It’s brings not only The 2nd amendment into play but also the 4th! I don’t see any of it going anywhere but who knows. This talk keeps up i guarantee gun sales will skyrocket!
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Jaynelson
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Of course not...I’m a parent and never want to turn on the news and see any school incident. Canada isn’t perfect at all...we have tons of laws that totally blow. Certain areas we have it more figured out than you guys, and in other areas the exact opposite is true. This is an area where we seem to be doing a better job by the numbers, and general culture. That’s all.
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