Twisted Turbo Pump Gas M1000

[Rms Rydning]

This thread is great. What the hell are you guys smoking in Norway ? Are you guys slightly retarded or just REALLY high?

And by the way whats with the car with the gay wing ? is that a Dutsun?

This tread if far from great.Your entrance her is also questionable...

Its not WE that claims the hp numbers in this tread.Try to read the hole tread then you might see whats going on here.Problem here is that the numbers that are claimed is on very low boost.We and a lot of gays witch have send me PM has also doubt about this.Some says this is totally BS.But dont want do come on here and discuss this because of people like YOU. AND ONE of the ways to prove this is to take the sled to do a INDEPENDET dyno test.

And of course when you dont have the knowledge you will not come with questions ,and ONLY agree with the holy him self here.
To have a good understanding about turboed 2 stokes you should have build your own kit and got it to work,THEN you would have understandet me and other that questions this boost vs. hp claims here.

I`m ONLY trying to enlight why he gets so hige numbers compare to boost.And when he dont what to explain this, a prove on a independet dyno will do it...or not.
We all know that a M1000 with 250-350bhp is gona go like h¤ll...so that is not the case here.

Its not a Datsun for sure..its a incredible fast track/road car.And if you want more info send me a PM...

 

[gus bohne]

This is the end of it for me.
I do not want to inflect that anyone is lieing or deceatfull, turbo 1000 or 1200 dont matter THEY RIP !!

ALL THIS IS AT SEA LEVEL .. no correction.

At best 14.5 - 15 psi will yield 100 -110% power increase.. At best.
7.5 psi at best will yield 55-60% .

129 divided by 2 = 64.5 round it too 65.

so at 7.5 psi it is expected to see 193 hp give or take a little.. should be give.

When you get on a full size water brake or and good eddy current unit you will find the errors from the dynomite small brake.

When using that portable or small brake, the water in the brake heats too rapidly for high torque low rpm engines. This causes severe strain gauge drift witch always causes the reading to climb.

L&S has addressed this in the newest software.

Dynotech jim saw this issue on his superflow last year when running the 1200 boondocker set up , Jim was not happy he was getting strangely over optimistic hp numbers..

Since he addressed the heat induced strain drift issue,,, NO ONE has hit those elusive somewhat questionable fiqures.

regadless of whos kit, what mods are done WITH the installation or not. THEY FLAT OUT WILL MAKE YOU ADDICTED !!!!

Shane has a stellar reputation on the chutes,, don't shoot the guy for being damn good at what he does.. Either become a friend, customer and believer or don't but do not just antagonize the man and his followers.

No man has ever thrown a leg over a turbo 2 stroke and NOT come away with a friggin ear to ear grin,, and a lot to think about on the ride home..LOL

Gus
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[Rms Rydning]

ALL THIS IS AT SEA LEVEL .. no correction.

At best 14.5 - 15 psi will yield 100 -110% power increase.. At best.
7.5 psi at best will yield 55-60% .

129 divided by 2 = 64.5 round it too 65.

so at 7.5 psi it is expected to see 193 hp give or take a little.. should be give.

Gus
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Thanks for finaly someone who has done a lot of R&D turbowork + custom build many sleds with turbos enlight this.Then we can partly agree that Dynos needs very competent people to get reliable results.And my be OTHERS here can understand why I asked about this now...

 

[Lucky Lyle]

gus well put , you are probably right about the dyno I think thats why PT said he was going to a bigger dyno to check the numbers. I do know this all kits are not the same I have seen the same sleds with diffrent kits run and one @16#s and the other at 20#s to be egual so is the one at 16 better?
I would say yes as it is making the same hill speed at lower boost. lower boost =longer engine life .it would be intersting to put the two sleds on the dyno to see if they are making the same power boost for boost, or if it was just that far off on set ups. I would say 4#s is a huge power diffrence on the dyno.

 

[Killerk]

We and a lot of gays witch have send me PM has also doubt about this.

Sorry, not trying to piss you off or take away from good reading... Maybe just lighten up this thread a little.

You posted it.

Carry on, I will stay silent from the sidelines as I am way out of my league in this discussion.

 

[Dano702]

I didnt even catch that , my face was hurting from laughing so hard . I mean come on , the wing on the back of that car is just like the one i saw bolted to the trunk of a civic.

On topic the PG 1000 is sweet , i will be on an M1K next year for sure.

 

[bigbull]

Too many people are concerned with flat out HP gains on a dyno anyway. 2 stroke sleds are not automobiles. They are ridden and tested under true life situations under various conditions, with different weight riders, different clutching, different psi of boost, different turbos, turbo components, blah, blah, blah. And torque curves are really what you are after anyway. Thats what you "FEEL" when riding the sled on the snow. Thats what matters to me, I could give two****s about HP questions when asked. Dynos? give me a break.....one of the most diverse, and sometimes overated fields of equipment ever.

This once valuable thread has been diminished to crap due to bickering over something that is not, and probably never will be, an exact science. Disappointed.
BB

 

[Stanowski]

i installed a muffler bearing kit on my m7 but i had alot of problems with it, so i purchased a brand new stiffer set of titanium piston return springs, after installing dual over head cams to handle the compression on the unltra baltronic compensators my m7 now runs amazing.

 

[Norway]

How about cooling these things? How far can you run the stock cooling system?

RS

 

[product tester]

cooling has been fine I have one with a bigger cooler and one with out no diffrence on pg you deffantly dont need one.

 

[NoSecondChances]

Too many people are concerned with flat out HP gains on a dyno anyway. 2 stroke sleds are not automobiles. They are ridden and tested under true life situations under various conditions, with different weight riders, different clutching, different psi of boost, different turbos, turbo components, blah, blah, blah. And torque curves are really what you are after anyway. Thats what you "FEEL" when riding the sled on the snow. Thats what matters to me, I could give two****s about HP questions when asked. Dynos? give me a break.....one of the most diverse, and sometimes overated fields of equipment ever.

This once valuable thread has been diminished to crap due to bickering over something that is not, and probably never will be, an exact science. Disappointed.
BB

Gotta agreed with you BB. Another great thread has been trashed on SW by a bunch of folks who saw a picture of something, and think they know more than the guy who built the damn thing.

Gus - keep up the good work and keep the CORRECT tech info coming.
Product Tester - even the non-turbo'd guys know that you are doing great things - keep up the good service and good products.

All you guys that think peak #'s of anything matter, should stop reading tech articles and pretending like you know something. Who cares about dyno room racing? As a ballpark image of how much power a motor makes...great. That is all they are good for. Every dyno is different and every operator is different.

The real dyno is the highmark on the hill or the fastest ET. Who cares if you make the most HP in a climate controlled environment. Lets go to 8,000 ft on a sunny day with 15 degree temp change and high humidity and see who wins - that's all that matters. I don't ride my sled in the dyno room.

Cumulative HP and torque is really what you want IMO, and the broader the range of your cumulative torque, the better, I shouldn't have to tell you why. HP is just a calculated #, so who gives a flying ****. If you don't know what cumulative HP and Torque are....well, maybe one of the dyno operators can explain it to you in an article.

NSC

 

[hatchers]

Too many people are concerned with flat out HP gains on a dyno anyway. 2 stroke sleds are not automobiles. They are ridden and tested under true life situations under various conditions, with different weight riders, different clutching, different psi of boost, different turbos, turbo components, blah, blah, blah. And torque curves are really what you are after anyway. Thats what you "FEEL" when riding the sled on the snow. Thats what matters to me, I could give two****s about HP questions when asked. Dynos? give me a break.....one of the most diverse, and sometimes overated fields of equipment ever.

This once valuable thread has been diminished to crap due to bickering over something that is not, and probably never will be, an exact science. Disappointed.
BB

agree

 

[Norway]

Cumulative HP and torque is really what you want IMO, and the broader the range of your cumulative torque, the better, I shouldn't have to tell you why. HP is just a calculated #, so who gives a flying ****. If you don't know what cumulative HP and Torque are....well, maybe one of the dyno operators can explain it to you in an article.

NSC

NSC and BB, you aint reading me half right, now take a deep breath and a or ten and chill! It's just a internet forum!?

Peace!

(lb/ft x rpm)/5252 = Hp

 

[Ken Climb]

"a two stroke makes more power at lower boost levels than a 4 stroke."

I laughed at all the hype about the pump gas two strokes last year. Wow 6-8lb's of boost woo hoo! I'm used to a Yamaha, and anything under 14lbs does'nt thrill me at all. It wasn't till I rode my first pump gas m8 just over a month ago when I found out that all the hype was really TRUE.

I really do believe that the two strokes make more power at lower boost levels....alot more! Crank them up high though and the Yami is still way more reliable then any two stroke. Can't beat the dependability of a yamaha at high boost levels!..........The PG 2 strokes are the funnest boondocking sleds for sure and seem to be very reliable. Thats my ride next year! Voot Voot!

 

[Mcx Nytro]

"a two stroke makes more power at lower boost levels than a 4 stroke."

I laughed at all the hype about the pump gas two strokes last year. Wow 6-8lb's of boost woo hoo! I'm used to a Yamaha, and anything under 14lbs does'nt thrill me at all. It wasn't till I rode my first pump gas m8 just over a month ago when I found out that all the hype was really TRUE.

I really do believe that the two strokes make more power at lower boost levels....a lot more! Crank them up high though and the Yami is still way more reliable then any two stroke. Can't beat the dependability of a Yamaha at high boost levels!..........The PG 2 strokes are the funnest boon docking sleds for sure and seem to be very reliable. That's my ride next year! Voot Voot!

What I was thinking. I am going to the 2-stroke boost next year, was going to be a twisted but something happened along the way but all said an done the only person who would not come off a 2-stroke and smile would be a big boosted yami..something about 20 lbs and 325(or more hp). I am hoping that the 8 I am looking into will be fun, not the king,,,,,just fun. Which way are you going KC..........Terry

 

[smokin800]

So MXC what happened to make you not want to go twisted.

 

[Snowstar]

What I was thinking. I am going to the 2-stroke boost next year, was going to be a twisted but something happened along the way but all said an done the only person who would not come off a 2-stroke and smile would be a big boosted yami..something about 20 lbs and 325(or more hp). I am hoping that the 8 I am looking into will be fun, not the king,,,,,just fun. Which way are you going KC..........Terry

So whats your problem... You seem to have a little smart azz remark for these threads and classifieds that have to do with Twisted. Being I am part of Twisted I would like to know.

 

[Ken Climb]

WASN'T ME! Why is my name posted above?

 

[mtn_extreme]

Was Mcx Nytro, not Ken Climb!

 

[Snowstar]

Sorry Ken didnt even catch that, I just used the quote tab from MCXs post.