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TRA question..

Sorry if I'm repeating whats already been said but I think the Ramps are Adjustable and moving. The clicker pin is adjustable to set the ramp angle. The Ramp is moving as the roller pushes on it due to centri***al force pushing on the ramp at an angle and putting side force on the belt thus running it higher in the sheave and increacing the ratio between primary and secondary sheaves and making the sled accelerate. Changing the angle of the ramps gives the rollers and pins more or less leverage on the belt to push it higher or lower in the sheaves. The ramp moves in and out over the roller, wide open throttle the ramp moves toward the engine pushing on the belt and when you let off the spring pushes it back out.

When you are unlucky with the xp you got (****ty Primary Clutch) the bushing seizes on the shaft because it dosn't fit the clutches and the rollers have to push really hard on the ramps to make them move so the rpm go really high to generate the cyntri***al force then the bushing breaks loose and the sheaves push the belt up too high in the clutch and the rpm drops because the clutch is in too high of a gear for the engine to produce the hps to stay at 8200rpm. So guys are throwing bigger weights and hevier springs in them to fix the problem that is rooted with the bushing.
 
Don't jump on me if i'm wrong guys i'm just thowing darts here

Yes....you are wrong. The arm with the roller is what is attached to the movable sheave and forces the sheave against the belt, the opposite of what you would see in a P-85 style. The ramps is 100% stationary during operation.
 
The TRA primary has 4 adjustable componants........

1. The clicker componant is adjustable.... By turning the clicker 1,2,3,4,5 or 5,4,3,2,1 (adjusting) your allowing the clickers 1,2,3,4,5 offsets to move the ramp....When clicking down 5,4,3,2,1 the centrifical force once the primary begins to spin will force the ramps to move down to the desired clicker setting.

2. The pin weight is also adjustable which allows the tuner to either add or subtract grams of weight by using various sizes of set screws. Which will increase or decrease engine RPM....More pin weight and the rpm goes down...less pin weight and the rpm goes up.

4. The spring can also be viewed as an adjustable part. By changing the primary spring you can adjust the side pressure/force that is needed to clamp the belt during operation.

5. The ramp(s) can also be view as adjustable not by its movement, but rather by it ability to be changed to various profiles to enhance the shift character of the clutch.

OT
 
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oh and dont forget to count the sheaves, they move to!

keep on OT

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Edgamacate a newbe to the TRA

So I just picked up a 06 Summit AD today (coming from an 99 Summit X). With all this talk about ramps, what the hell is a ramp? Also my clickers are set at 5. What will the difference from 1-5. Also I see you can change settings on the secondary clutch, what will the difference be from 1-5 (currently it's set at 3).
 
So that would be like saying you got shot in the head and was laying on the side of the road dead and lifeless. Most people would assume you are not moving.....

Now say somebody comes by and sees you laying on the ground dead and roll you over to get your wallet and then leave....

Some other people come by and your still laying their motionless. One of them asks "is he moving" and the other one would answer A or B

A. Yes, he's moving because someone rolled him and took his wallet (moving clickers from #4 to #2 )

B. No, he's not moving because he is dead and in the same position as he has been in since he was rolled.

Survey says.........:devil:


ROTFLMFAO...heavysledz nailed it....cant get a better anolgy than that...thanks...LOL -BJ

ice..get the concept now??? the ramps do not move...adjustable yes...moving part..NO
 
Winter Brew good job..... you should know by now that some SW folks are still playing with Jello and can not absorbe all the good info. After all some folk have been stuck in a rut on this subject for 7 years now especially the author of the subject...... Da let me see Doo i use hot water or cold water when i mix Da jello ? Da let me see when Da jello chills is Da jello fixed to Da bowl of does it Jiggle constituting movement.



OT

I'm stuck?? your the one that was wrong then and as it looks your still wrong today...if you want to agree to dis-agree with me thats OK, no biggy...but when the SKI-DOO race manual and some clutch guy named Olav Aaen back MY side...I cant help ya...BJ
 
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In a TRA clutch...

While the sled is in motion (engine running) is the ramp a MOVING part (as in it moves while sled is in motion) or an ADJUSTABLE part (as in once set at certain clicker # it becomes a non-moving part)...clutch rotation on the crank doesnt constitute moving...

please answer either moving or adjustable...thanks...BJ

BTW- I know the answer...just kinda taking a poll for fun:D

ice- you need to read goodder...BJ:beer;
 
He's probably too busy whipping up another batch of Jello so he can watch it jiggle......you know simple minds.... :eek:


You and BJ sound like 2 old wooden spatula's, the kind grandma used to stir the jello with. :beer;

BJ your only fooling the novice on this forum....You have Heavysledz convinced LMAO.... Anyone else lining up behind Heavysledz ?

OT
 
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You and BJ sound like 2 old wooden spatula's, the kind grandma used to stir the jello with. :beer;

BJ your only fooling the novice on this forum....You have Heavysledz convinced LMAO.... Anyone else lining up behind Heavysledz ?

OT

Must be something in the thin air or something missing but I am with BJ on this one(local guy). I have some experience with TRA and to me it seems like we are fighting over how to pronounce tomato. :confused:

I have a lot of respect for OT but it seems like he is becoming his ol' self again.:mad:


Let me ask you this, on the P-85 should they be called weights or ramps?? They do both and they both move, are they one piece or two, can one be changed but not affect the other? I say tomato.:beer;

-Seeder
 
You and BJ sound like 2 old wooden spatula's, the kind grandma used to stir the jello with. :beer;

BJ your only fooling the novice on this forum....You have Heavysledz convinced LMAO.... Anyone else lining up behind Heavysledz ?

OT

OT,

If you sleep better at night thinking that every part is moveable, have at it. You are playing a twist on words but in reality the parts in question on this thread aren't considered moveble by defenition. If you are that bored or lonely go join the local High School debate team or join Gore and prove why there is global warming while the rest of us enjoy another good snow year!

You may also want to choose carefully who you challenge and on what subject. I happen to know a thing or two about physics and the laws thereof. Or at least someone thought I did since I am a Mechanical Design Engineer and am currently enrolled in a graduate program working towards a Ph.D in Applied Physics.

I guess shame on me for even wasting my time responding to you. It is 5 minutes of my life that I'll never get back. Or at least according to the laws of physics I wont???:clock:
 
OT,

If you sleep better at night thinking that every part is moveable, have at it. You are playing a twist on words but in reality the parts in question on this thread aren't considered moveble by defenition. If you are that bored or lonely go join the local High School debate team or join Gore and prove why there is global warming while the rest of us enjoy another good snow year!

You may also want to choose carefully who you challenge and on what subject. I happen to know a thing or two about physics and the laws thereof. Or at least someone thought I did since I am a Mechanical Design Engineer and am currently enrolled in a graduate program working towards a Ph.D in Applied Physics.

I guess shame on me for even wasting my time responding to you. It is 5 minutes of my life that I'll never get back. Or at least according to the laws of physics I wont???:clock:

Jello beaters also have trouble staying on topic Ph.D or not...Were talking about the TRA RAMPS.....And when yout tuning your TRA clicker down from #5 to #3 how does the ramp go from #5 to #3 if the ramp does not move?......Online enigeenering degree not required.


OT
 
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