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Its a BIG Mistake...........

What country are you living in?

Same as you my friend.

I beg to disagree with you though. As Kevco stated, it's (the economy) is still good. Hic-ups are not bad, are always going to be there. We have had one hell of a good run the past few years.

And who the hell wrote that Edwards was for the "little guy"... you have got to be kidding. As Cle Elum Sledhead said, get informed, and vote. But please, please, don't repeat nonsense.
 
Uh, might want to check history, unemployment has been lower, like in the late 90s.

http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat1.pdf

(if you look real closely at that table and who is in office, the democrats have a lot lower unemployment than the republicans. Look at the great Ronald Reagan and his 9% UE rate) (Inherited from Carter...please print ALL the facts)

And I do agree that some people bought more house than they can afford. However, a lot of people were not accurately told the terms when they bought the house by the lender. I have a friend that just bought a house. The lender did not mention anything at closing the they would have $645 added to the loan a month. So they close and think they have a $1,550 a month payment, and end up with a $2,200 a month payment. (He wasn't told, or he can't read???)

I agree, check your facts.
 
John Edwards, though, I think, is by far the best candidate. A self made man that fought for the little people.

Check it out, this is what I said. He maid his money as a lawyer that fought the insurance companies on behalf of the individual. To me, that says he is for the "little guy" and does not support the big corporations that GW strokes.
 
I agree, check your facts.

LOL, look at that table, the four years of Carter, 1977, 1978, 1979, and 1980, it went down 3 of the 4 years. Then in 1981, Reagan's first year, it went up a little, then in 1982 and 1983 it spiked to 9.7 and 9.6 percent. It did go down until Bush Sr. got a hold of it, then it spiked again. Is that Carter's fault too? And I suppose Clinton's UE rate went down all 8 years because of Reagan, right?

So, please, keep "stamping out liberal thinking one FACT at a time"

I assume you read 100% of every document when you bought your house? I am just mentioning a real world situation where the lender pulled a bait and switch and did not disclose it to the buyer.
 
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LOL, look at that table, the four years of Carter, 1977, 1978, 1979, and 1980, it went down 3 of the 4 years. Then in 1981, Reagan's first year, it went up a little, then in 1982 and 1983 it spiked to 9.7 and 9.6 percent. It did go down until Bush Sr. got a hold of it, then it spiked again. Is that Carter's fault too? And I suppose Clinton's UE rate went down all 8 years because of Reagan, right?

So, please, keep "stamping out liberal thinking one FACT at a time"

I assume you read 100% of every document when you bought your house? I am just mentioning a real world situation where the lender pulled a bait and switch and did not disclose it to the buyer.

As stated, "inherited". Most programs take years to have effects from the federal level, and are combinations of many things including congress...and if you aren't taking it all into account, you end up with BS data. So yea, I got it right.

But if you think a 'president' can willy nilly move the unemployment rate around, have at it. And if you think that bigger government and buying jobs is the way to go, have at it.

Bait and switch..? that would be a crime. Believing your "Good Faith Estimate" and jumping in would be 'shame on me'. Sorry it happened, but I have yet to hear one that ultimately was someone else's fault, albeit, everyone wants to blame someone for their bad decisions, poor luck, and dumb choices.
 
I can't beleive you guy's dis Barack so bad. He seems like a real level headed fellow. (for a democrat!) A clear choice over Hillary, wouldn't you say??? Not that your voting for a democrat any way right guys
Romney seems like a joke to me! He seems like he's right out of the movie "Vacation" or something....the tanned business man c.e.o. that has everybody doing everything for him. Almost cartoon charcter-ish, goofy like no? or maybe saturday night live. hahahha

do some research on his stands as a state senator.. then you will understand
 
do some research on his stands as a state senator.. then you will understand

Post up the research then!!!

And, for the home deal, I did not know about it til it was too late. Not all the home mortgage problems are from predatory lendors, but that situation really hit home to me. That is part of the problem of the low interest rates, people were buying homes that had no business buying a home.
 
I like Ron Paul the best, although he doesn't have much of a chance. He seems to be the most serious about downsizing the government, reigning in spending, cutting the inefficient, wasteful, needless federal programs, keeping the government the hell out of peoples personal lives, stop policing the world, etc.

Where is the party representing true fiscal conservatives? The Republicans had their shot when they had both houses of Congress & the White House. They failed miserably. I don't think Bush ever vetoed one pork laden bloated spending bill. Republicans have lost their way in my view. Most of the Dems never met a government program they didn't like, so forget about them holding down spending.

The Dems have their segment of progressive, socialism, wilderness, global warming, freaks. Republicans have the religous right who also know whats best for me and want to legislate morality. I don't have a lot of use for either of them.

Just do the essential functions of government set out in the constitution, stay out of my bedroom and personal life, and basically leave me the hell alone. Is it too much to hope for? Who's the candidate for this?
 
X2 I wish I knew!!!!

Well, right now that is Bush. The last three years he has done nothing and the last year, during the democratic congress, he has vetoed a pile of bills. So basically, nothing is happening!

http://content.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/issues.aspx

Here is a good website to visit to describe the candidates plans and beliefs. I showed my wife this just before the 2004 election because she was going to vote vote GW. I told her to read this first and she can vote for whomever, as long as she is informed, and she did, but thought it was biased. I then sent her to foxnews.com and she found the exact same thing. Then she went to cnn.com. She was absolutely amazed that her values were more aligned with democrats than republicans. That is a true story.
 
Well, right now that is Bush. The last three years he has done nothing and the last year, during the democratic congress, he has vetoed a pile of bills. So basically, nothing is happening!


If Washington isn't doing anything then they can't screw up anything... I don't want them to do anything... If they do anything, it will cost me money or land access... I hate Bush, but will vote for the Republican candidate for President without a second thought! :cool:
 
I like Ron Paul the best, although he doesn't have much of a chance. He seems to be the most serious about downsizing the government, reigning in spending, cutting the inefficient, wasteful, needless federal programs, keeping the government the hell out of peoples personal lives, stop policing the world, etc.

Where is the party representing true fiscal conservatives? The Republicans had their shot when they had both houses of Congress & the White House. They failed miserably. I don't think Bush ever vetoed one pork laden bloated spending bill. Republicans have lost their way in my view. Most of the Dems never met a government program they didn't like, so forget about them holding down spending.

The Dems have their segment of progressive, socialism, wilderness, global warming, freaks. Republicans have the religous right who also know whats best for me and want to legislate morality. I don't have a lot of use for either of them.

Just do the essential functions of government set out in the constitution, stay out of my bedroom and personal life, and basically leave me the hell alone. Is it too much to hope for? Who's the candidate for this?


Sums thing up about right! Although I'm not a big Ron Paul fan, I'd rather see Fred Thompson get the nod. Their all a bunch of crooks, in it for their best interests IMHO!
 
We'll have to see who makes the final rounds. If I were to vote tomorrow I would probalby put each of their picture on a dart board and blindfold myself. I really do not care for any of them at all but the the one that I don't seem to hate right now is McCain. Though I don't agree with him on all his topics I do beleive he is a capable figure who would command respect of Presidents of old. Lets face it the man was a wild child until he got shot down in nam. With alot of thought time on his hands I think he would be the less intrusive leader. Though he never stayed in to make general The guy has the poise of one and is an intelligent intelectual man (maybe the years in Hanoi helped that). I believe he is currently my pick for the lesser of all the evils.
 
Truthfully, I hate the "lessor of all evils" tag. That to me says you are not educated in what the candidates believe. My parents didn't drill much political into me, but that was what they always said. They listen to the negative hype and never know what a candidate believes.

How about people do a little reading and find out how candidates would like to run a country. I am tired of hearing "Kerry wouldn't make a good president because of that Swift Boat thing." (Well that was a couple years ago, but you get the point).
 
Some of you liberal clowns AMAZE me!!

Edwards??? what planet are you from?? I know you guys don't have many choices but give me a break....lol

There are a couple of good choices for the Republican nomination but the media will never give them the play because they ARE Republicans that ARE in touch with what the majority's of Americans are.....

Fred Thompson being one and Duncan Hunter being the other...these guys are old school...THEY GET IT....They remember the differance between right and wrong....and dont give a rip about political correctness...I guess Romney would be a close 3rd ..but Im not a a big fan of his...

Its sad that the media shapes the opinions of the weak mided...the ones that only want to believe they hear and not what they study or investigate on there own...:mad:

Ragged
 
Edwards??? what planet are you from?? I know you guys don't have many choices but give me a break....lol

There are a couple of good choices for the Republican nomination but the media will never give them the play because they ARE Republicans that ARE in touch with what the majority's of Americans are.....

Fred Thompson being one and Duncan Hunter being the other...these guys are old school...THEY GET IT....They remember the differance between right and wrong....and dont give a rip about political correctness...I guess Romney would be a close 3rd ..but Im not a a big fan of his...

Its sad that the media shapes the opinions of the weak mided...the ones that only want to believe they hear and not what they study or investigate on there own...:mad:

Ragged

This is interesting, you dogging me, then say the exact same as me. I read about 15 hours a week, from various sources, about politics. I don't go to the junk websites and do not listen to talk radio or watch the news (well, I do a couple times a year just to see what they have to say). I know exactly what every candidate believes on most of the issues.

I think it is funny you call me weak minded, when ALL of my political views come from my own research, not from my parents, my friends, or my coworkers. If so, I would be a hardcore right wing lunatic.

I am the only person on here who has posted facts and links to the sources, not just spouted off junk.

I do agree with one person on here though, I do hate when republicans try to legislate morality. I had never thought of it that way, but it is true.
 
well maybe you are someone that is informed on the candidates and actually buys the crap that they spew...I apologize for lumping you in with the ill informed...

BUT....as far as legislating morality....no mater how you cut it ....there will always be a difference between RIGHT and WRONG.....

That where the term liberal came from in the first place....somone that thinks there is no wrong...if it feels good "JUST DO IT"...

then the lib's raise there kids that way and since theres nothing that is WRONG they wind up on welfare and the rest of us pay for it..or working for minium wage on puplic assistance..lol...but the libs feel good because there helping out the poor fella who has had such hard luck..

My opinion is that most all libs are just above or below the poverty level and the the rest of them are wealthy actors, athletes, media personalites, that have nothing better to do than make alot of noise.

What it all boils down to is the head job baby boomer's and there parents...when the discipline in the home went to crap so did everything else...There are allot of so called ADULTS that have to have laws and rules in place because they have not been taught right and wrong and have no common sence...or MORALITY...

Ragged
 
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