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"Standing by congressional Democrats in their push to override the veto, singer Paul Simon said with earnest indignation, "The president's veto of the reauthorization of SCHIP appears to be a heartless act. I'm here today to ask those of you who supported the veto to re-examine your conscience, to find compassion in your heart for our most vulnerable and sweetest citizens, our children."

Giving him the benefit of the doubt, the compassionate Simon is obviously unaware that the matter is not as simple as merely throwing money at the problem. To quote House Minority Leader John Boehner, "There are 500,000 kids in America who are eligible for this program who have not been signed up, yet there are some 700,000 adults who are already on the program."

Simon, unlike the Democrats pulling his puppet strings, must not realize that President Bush supports a $5 billion expansion, not reduction, of the program, or that the Democrats' plan goes far beyond providing a safety net to the needy.

It would allow states to make coverage available to families with incomes greater than $60,000 a year, which would entice people who can well afford private health insurance to opt for state coverage. "
 
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" President Bush has made good on his promise to veto a bill to expand a popular children's health insurance program, saying the bill could lead the nation toward a system of socialized medicine.

But backers of the measure, who are working to override the veto, say the president doesn't understand how the bill would actually work.

At issue is the State Children's Health Insurance Program, known as SCHIP. It currently covers about 6 million children in families that earn too much to qualify for the Medicaid program for the poor, but not enough to afford their own, private health insurance. The bill the president vetoed would have added $35 billion to the program over the next five years — enough to cover about 10 million children total."
 
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"Standing by congressional Democrats in their push to override the veto, singer Paul Simon said with earnest indignation, "The president's veto of the reauthorization of SCHIP appears to be a heartless act. I'm here today to ask those of you who supported the veto to re-examine your conscience, to find compassion in your heart for our most vulnerable and sweetest citizens, our children."

Giving him the benefit of the doubt, the compassionate Simon is obviously unaware that the matter is not as simple as merely throwing money at the problem. To quote House Minority Leader John Boehner, "There are 500,000 kids in America who are eligible for this program who have not been signed up, yet there are some 700,000 adults who are already on the program."

Simon, unlike the Democrats pulling his puppet strings, must not realize that President Bush supports a $5 billion expansion, not reduction, of the program, or that the Democrats' plan goes far beyond providing a safety net to the needy.

It would allow states to make coverage available to families with incomes greater than $60,000 a year, which would entice people who can well afford private health insurance to opt for state coverage. "

Those are not facts, they are quotes of people opposed to the bill. No where have I seen where a family over $60,000 a year would qualify. And places like here in San Diego, $60,000 is poverty.
 
Those are not facts, they are quotes of people opposed to the bill. No where have I seen where a family over $60,000 a year would qualify. And places like here in San Diego, $60,000 is poverty.

I live in chicago... last I checked HERE, one of the most expensive areas in the country to live, $60k is not poverty, unless you live in lower manhattan in NYC...

ah, so reporters are not reporting facts??? even the LIBERAL BIASED NPR??? which is where those quotes came from...

another source citing the same stuff.... not that you are gonna change your mind or anything... but you might wanna get some facts before you go spouting off about it...

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200709/POL20070926b.html

yet another citing the $35billion proposal

http://thehill.com/business--lobby/...schip-bill-changes-the-stakes-2007-09-20.html

here's the washington post with the details...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/25/AR2007092501474.html



you sir need to do your homework better before you spout off "facts" based on emotion rather than actual FACT
 
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I live in chicago... last I checked HERE, one of the most expensive areas in the country to live, $60k is not poverty, unless you live in lower manhattan in NYC...

Uh, I have friends that live in Chicage and unless you are downtown, there is no comparison to SD. Right now I am 60 miles east of town in the mountains. They are selling homes on 5,000 sq ft lot, 1,500 sq ft home, for over $500,000. In town, I have looked at real estate. Ghetto only under $1,000,000.

I have friends that live just outside of Chicago that bought a 1,700 sq foot home, brand new, for $305,000.

While I was using a little sarcasm, try living in a high cost area on $55,000 a year with two kids and pay $1,000 a month for medical.
 
I live in chicago... last I checked HERE, one of the most expensive areas in the country to live, $60k is not poverty, unless you live in lower manhattan in NYC...

ah, so reporters are not reporting facts??? even the LIBERAL BIASED NPR??? which is where those quotes came from...

another source citing the same stuff.... not that you are gonna change your mind or anything... but you might wanna get some facts before you go spouting off about it...

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200709/POL20070926b.html
Did you actually READ this article. It actually says that this bill is open to illegals because they can steal anyones SS number. LOL, now that is great.

yet another citing the $35billion proposal

http://thehill.com/business--lobby/...schip-bill-changes-the-stakes-2007-09-20.html

here's the washington post with the details...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/25/AR2007092501474.html



you sir need to do your homework better before you spout off "facts" based on emotion rather than actual FACT

I don't have time to read the others, I will when I get back to my hotel tonight. I had to see what a reputable source CNS is. :D
 
well, maybe, just maybe, you need to relocate to some place you can actually afford to live in...

Look at my profile, I live in Billings, MT, and yes I can afford to live there and I have my wife, me and my child all covered under health care, without one penny from the government.

In fact, I have never had to use a penny from the government. Never used the earned income credit in my life, same for my wife. We had our kid after we were over income limit.
 
Look at my profile, I live in Billings, MT, and yes I can afford to live there and I have my wife, me and my child all covered under health care, without one penny from the government.

In fact, I have never had to use a penny from the government. Never used the earned income credit in my life, same for my wife. We had our kid after we were over income limit.

when i said YOU, i meant it in the generic sense, not you specifically...
 
I don't have time to read the others, I will when I get back to my hotel tonight. I had to see what a reputable source CNS is. :D

tell me right now that illegals DO NOT STEAL SSN's and I'm gonna call you an outright liar... my Sis-in-law is in HR and has to turn back stolen ID's all the time... she calls INS and etc on them and they refuse to do anything about it...
 
I don't have time to read the others, I will when I get back to my hotel tonight. I had to see what a reputable source CNS is. :D

oh, I can post several more sources other than CNS if you like... there are literally hundreds stating the exact same thing... a fact is a fact regardless of whose mouth it comes out of... if a known liar says 2+2=4, is that any less factual than if Honest Abe said it??
 
when i said YOU, i meant it in the generic sense, not you specifically...

I do agree there, some people should not be living here in San Diego, or LA, or other places where living is just ridiculous.

It is funny coming from Montana and seeing people in places like this and what they do to try to live.

(But don't tell them funking Californians to move to MT, keep them the funk out)
 
Vote Republican

Fab1 and Idaho Slim, You guy's are right on. :beer;:beer;:beer;

I personally have always made the best money when a republican is in office.

I work for a Union construction company and the Union preaches to vote democrat, but my employer had the most work on the books ever last year with Bush in office, go figure.
 
You think the White House website is all truthful? The president controls that. And if/when a Democrat gets in office, they are going to put thier spin on that too.

That is just Bush's reasons for doing it, whether they are based on facts or not.

but it IS fact that he asked for $5b and the Dems wanted $35b... i would veto it also... bush offered to increase it by $5billion, he veto $35b, simple enough... and reason enough to veto it...
 
he created the economy of the 90's just like Clinton created the bust of 2000....

What is really funny, one guy I work with says that Reagan was the sole reason for the economy of the 90s, but then had nothing to do with 2000 market crash.

Truth is, Reagan had little to do with the 90s economy, there was a recession between his presidency and the Clinton presidency. But yes, Clinton created great consumer confidence, which hugely inflated the stock market. Then it crashed, which that is related to Clinton, along with Enron and what not. There were so many factors to the recession in 2002, between the stocks, 9/11, Enron and others. But I do agree, Clinton was one of the causes.
 
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