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Golden conditions

Don't bag on the groomer

Don't bag on the grooming, unless you are willing to step up and pull a drag behind your sled or have a clue as to how much grooming they actually do and what it takes to move the groomer around almost daily to keep the majority of trails relatively smooth. Silent is a long way in there to drag the groomer and it is a long trail to groom once you do.

Depending on snow conditions, they might not groom as it could be almost down to gravel in spots. The lady at the bottom does not drive up to the trailhead to check the conditions.

Maybe if the throttle junkies could learn a little thumb control and be smoother instead of driving miss daisy through the corners between random spurts of throttle to the bars along the stretches, less grooming would be required. Going fast is fine, the key is to be smooth. There is also no need to gas it wide open from a standstill on the trail and dig a nice big trench for everyone else to bounce through. Again with the smoothness.

Not bagging on you guys, I realise we all pay hard earned money for the sport, but the $15 also goes to helping the club keep areas open and for the warming huts, fuel for the groomer, etc. I also know how hard the grooming staff work late at night to keep the trails smooth. Nothing like spending time alone in the groomer by yourself away from your family to plow some trail into the alpine.... :) Trust me, they always get an earful about how bad the trails are, they rarely ever hear a positive comment.

:beer; to the groomers!
 
Don't bag on the grooming, unless you are willing to step up and pull a drag behind your sled or have a clue as to how much grooming they actually do and what it takes to move the groomer around almost daily to keep the majority of trails relatively smooth. Silent is a long way in there to drag the groomer and it is a long trail to groom once you do.

Depending on snow conditions, they might not groom as it could be almost down to gravel in spots. The lady at the bottom does not drive up to the trailhead to check the conditions.

Maybe if the throttle junkies could learn a little thumb control and be smoother instead of driving miss daisy through the corners between random spurts of throttle to the bars along the stretches, less grooming would be required. Going fast is fine, the key is to be smooth. There is also no need to gas it wide open from a standstill on the trail and dig a nice big trench for everyone else to bounce through. Again with the smoothness.

Not bagging on you guys, I realise we all pay hard earned money for the sport, but the $15 also goes to helping the club keep areas open and for the warming huts, fuel for the groomer, etc. I also know how hard the grooming staff work late at night to keep the trails smooth. Nothing like spending time alone in the groomer by yourself away from your family to plow some trail into the alpine.... :) Trust me, they always get an earful about how bad the trails are, they rarely ever hear a positive comment.

:beer; to the groomers!

X2!!!! Good post!
 
I can't agree more. These guys work their butts off to make the trails silky. If you guys read this we should all be thanking you!! And thanking our lucky stars it is only 15 bucks a day!!!!!
 
Did a quick half day (morning) ride in Gorman today, Gorman itself is not worth the ride, unless you want to race across the lake which is very smooth right now, it's thin everywhere. We dropped into Lange and played in the bottom trees, boofed through creeks and got stuck plenty, it was deeeep down there. Dropped into Cirque and down on Cirque lake was amazing, super deep, got stuck plenty donuting around on the lake and the adjacent trees. Spent an hour or so track poaching our way up towards East Quartz, didn't make it through all the little bluffs and wandering chutes at the bottom, maybe 1/3rd of the way. Would definitely be a fun way to burn a tank of gas to go straight there and continue punching this trail to the saddle. Still lots of huge nuggets lurking below the surface though, the sled penetration into the snow was deep today, 30" or so trenches when climbing and probably 18"+ deep tracks left when downhilling, not much float as the snow was ultra dry. Felt lots of thwacks on the tops of rocks and hit one hard enough (going slowly down hill) to put me over the bar. No damage, phew.

Forecast shows warming temps towards the end of this week with more snow, be cautious of where you are riding and stopping, especially in Lange and Cirque when the light is flat or it goes white room and you aren't really sure what's above.

The trail in was incredibly smooth, beautiful job!

nate
 
I can't agree more. These guys work their butts off to make the trails silky. If you guys read this we should all be thanking you!! And thanking our lucky stars it is only 15 bucks a day!!!!!

DITTO.
I Love the Groomers! :heart: Thanks for the time and effort put in to keep our trails as good as they are!

Sorry, 'bagging on the groomers' wasn't my intention in a previous post. Being from the area, we ride Golden lots and the trails are great more than they aren't. They put alot into the riding areas, running the club and making 'Snowmobiling Golden' as good as it is! For days when the trail isn't groomed - we must suck it up and be thankful for when it is!

THANKS GROOMERS and CLUB MEMBERS!!!
 
X2!!!! Good post!

Good post yes, but the whoops are caused more by traffic volume than riding style.

Any time you have insufficient compaction of your road surface to hold the weight of a vehicle, you're gonna get moguls. Nothing you can do about it fellas. sorry.
 
Good post yes, but the whoops are caused more by traffic volume than riding style.

Any time you have insufficient compaction of your road surface to hold the weight of a vehicle, you're gonna get moguls. Nothing you can do about it fellas. sorry.

Partially true - when one whoop forms you get all the subsequent whoops after it, and then those whoops get bigger and also build further whoops etc., and this repeats until there is no end. If more riders helped prevent that first whoop from happening then the trail would last longer - Ie, no digging a trench on the trail, no hamming on it out of corners etc. All in all I say the trails here are groomed frequently enough it's not a huge deal, and days like last Friday when Quartz was bumpy, they weren't charging at the bottom because of it. Everyone just keep buying your memberships and paying your trail fees and we can afford to keep getting the trails groomed!

nate
 
people are too spoiled. with new suspensions a few bumps are nothing. 15 bucks is so worth it to have groomed or soft bumps on the way out. A few years ago I was in to quartz early season on my old 00 summit 600 with no riser (I'm 6'3 260lbs) and waist high single track whoops the whole way in. It took over 45 minutes and by the time you get to the cabin, your back and legs are so toast, you don't want to sled any more. Ride a little smoother on the gas on the way in and it'll be smoother for everyone. Same thing for people who trench up the main routes up through the trees, learn to get up stuff without having to put it to the handle on a single track uphill that 100 other people want to use.

Thanks a lot to the groomers everywhere! The fastcat grooming party at Quartz last spring was sick.
 
Shoveled about 10-12 cms of nice (-7ish last night) snow off my driveway, kicking horse is reporting 20cms at the yurt weather station.....it is currently snowing super hard still, another 1-2 cms on my driveway since shoveling about 45 minutes ago. My only worry is the forecast shows really warm temps starting this afternoon, like 0 to +1 at valley bottom.....might see a good avy cycle out of this.

nate
 
sweet! A good slide cycle wouldn't hurt either, hopefully it cleans out some buried unhappiness in the snowpack. Although things seemed surprisingly stable out at Quartz, judging by some of the highmarks I saw Friday. Ski and sled cuts didn't produce many results. Was your sled bogging last week in the deep? I need to rig up some better breathing on the XP
 
Snowing soooo hard! Should be an amazing weekend! Obviously stay off big slopes this weekend, but dang it's gonna be deep!!
 
Heh Lid
Sean and Nadine's Friend Todd. Rode with you and Dave on New Years Eve day. This is the Vent mod I did to my sled. If you wanted to do this, I do live in Calgary.

http://www.dootalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=198495

Dude that looks awesome, I have been describing this exact construction all season to people, saying that it seems like such a simple fix and that I want to do it. I think it will be my summer project, but looks awesome, nice work.

nate
 
Todd, my sled's still out in golden. I may take you up on that. Next time I'll bring my sled back to town. May look at sealing the front end of the snow filter a bit better too. I've pointed out to a few guys that there's a gap at the front if it's not in snug.
 
For that area around the air intake--HomeDepot. Grab a roll of 1 inch and 2 inch window sealer one sided tape and you are good to go.
 
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