linc i know your still lurking on this thread so will you answer these questions honestly
did your yamaha perform to your standards out of the box?
why did you add the turbo?
how much money have you spent on it so far?
how much time have you put into it so far?
how much down time did you have before you got it dialed in?
do you think you can compete with the xp, dragon, or m sled in fresh powder on a 35 degree incline in tight trees say ten feet apart on a three hundred yard run?
your honest answers will be appreciated as i have not seen a tpex do anything but straight runs, and they are impressive to say the least
Well I hope you think less of me for not answering right away,I was working.
First let me start by saying that my mention on this post wasn't to discredit the the XP's ability to navigate the snow drifts and trees,from my observation has been that they do this very well.I was out riding a week ago with a gaggle of Doo's and impressed by their performance,I was equally astonished at how many stops they had to make to either cool off or replace belts.One climb was pointed out do and no one would attempt it ( except me ) because the climb was too long and they said the belt wouldn't last that long. But I digress.
Yes my Apex performed to my expectations and then some,coming off the RX-1 which I had to fiddle with to make it work at all in the snow,the Apex worked flawless,stock,in the deep it was amazing,it ran EVERY single day without looking at ANYTHING but the oil and gas,1500 klms in the first season without a single belt,no sliders,nothing but ride it every day.
I never added a turbo to that sled,but did previously to a Vector,why,two reasons,I wanted the big power,and honestly the Vector didn't have the jam.I have to say though, the Vector ( the way it is set up now,stock,not even close ) is far more nimble in the trees than the Apex,it bends easier through the trees.
6500 over the price of the sled,spread that out over 3 years
Time is not an easy answer,how do you track that,Install took 15 hours,set up took about three rides,but no belts,hp range 220- 270.
Tight trees, I don't know I haven't ridden that much tight trees,we don't have that kind of riding here,and I haven't been around those other sleds,with a turbo,it seems that when the turbos show up the the other sleds disappear.Our technical riding consists going up around trees and through rock cuts to get to the hills and glaciers.A couple zones have the trees to navigate and honestly I'll let the lighter sleds find the way through,it's not that I can't,but why should I, but when it comes to the hills,I'll break the hills then everyone poaches after that,it's a symbiotic relationship,some things other sleds do well at,mine does better at the others.
Again I'm not saying the XP doesn't work well,I'm saying BRP is training you into accepting substandard workmanship,and they haven't done their job as a manufacturer to give the consumer a hassle free machine.You paid hard earned money for your sled and i know many owners that have had to take their machine back for issues four and five times already,leaving it there to miss riding,what good is the machine if it gets sorted out in May.
Here's my take on the problem with the XP,it's an engine design flaw,that's why the bolts fall out of the exhaust,that's why the clutch gets hot,and falls apart,and that's the big reason the belts fail.There is a harmonic vibration that is causing the clutches to over heat,which in turn makes everything right down to the engine dampers soften and fail,don't you find it a little bit odd that 07 had the same issues?Polaris went through the same problems and it was nearly the end of them,and if they don't get the 8 dragon sorted out it may very well be this year.
BRP has a lot of p!ssed off customers out there,many don't say anything for fear of being flamed,some are embarrassed that they got burned last year and they got humped again this year.
Lucky,,,you called me out saying that I was stirring the pot,maybe,i suppose I should sit back and not say anything,but it ires me that a company can disregard their customer and out and out lie to them is disrespectful, they have your money,now they just p!ss around till next year,you wouldn't put up with this if were a car.
I hope I've answered your questions for you,,,,now can you handle it,and look at my answers objectively,,,,at the end of the day,there is a swing and and shift in the market share coming,everyone wanted lighter four strokes,and they're coming.They won't be as light as the XP,if fact I doubt you'll see the XP as light next year,,,it's not sustainable,you can take only so much weight out before it becomes unreliable.Ski Doo will have a four stroke soon and all of this banter will be a matter of history.
Good day ,good ride and let's have a beer at the end of the day.
I was side hilling steep hill and sadenly my belt blow and my foot got stuck some how so I almost broke my foot 
