Is that water pump impeller plastic?
850 gone down already??
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Yes your chitty, slow to respond Polaris warranty on the engine will be gone. So will 99% of the risk of it blowing up prematurely. Then it is replaced by Indy Dans 3 year warranty that seems to be a no questions asked type of deal with excellent support and turn around.
Go ahead and count on Polaris to take care of you and just see how that works out. They do not have the best track record. Dan, on the other hand, has a superb record of taking care of customers and providing quality products and services.
IMO, the smartest thing you could do is yank your new 850 motor and send it to Dan, void the crap Polaris warranty and get a well built, quality machined replacement with a good warranty. That is a Polaris I might switch back to. Until Polaris gets quality and durability up where it needs to be, you can have your 4 year warranty and the trials that will come with it.
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snowmobiler
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good looking engine.just needs some red ceramic coated twin pipes.
Or just dont buy the 850 polaris in the first place ! lol plenty of other good sleds out there !
Yes, they have been for many years.
Hey Murph sorry i missed you... No i have not seen a 2019 800 cylinder yet.
I am really want to see one ASAP ! to see if it matches the 850
Hey WAX..... we will be heading out your way in the very near future !! When ever we hear a good storm hits.
And we can sneak out of the shop !
Dan
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Thanks !
As for volume........the one on here now is stock volume Hemi design, we also have the exact copy to the Polaris OEM dome and we are testing them this coming week.
We thought seperate would be kinda cool looking and out of the box.
The head covers seperate.... Its Mono cylinder so plenty of strength.
They are tied together by the water manifold and the DET plate.
Main reason we built this set up is for the Turbo guys that want reduced compression.....so they don't have to buy race fuel.
We make the domes in 1/2cc sizes any size you want.
Also will make custom to your exact number.
Dan
That's what I did as well... This being the Polaris forum, most already have an 850 Polaris.
I wanted the new motor to be the missing link for Polaris. I wanted to switch back to a sled 40 lbs lighter than the others because, it matters. Unfortunately the 4 yr warranty isn't enough incentive for me when you KNOW you are going to be using it for a motor replacement or three. The down time and hassle put a serious kink in the riding pleasure you would expect from a new sled. So, I changed ponies too.
Like always, I want an amalgamation of the three... Doo 850 motor, Poo or Cat clutching, Axys chassis with Alpha Cat rear suspension. I want all that for $10 grand and it needs to be reliable for 2-3 seasons of mtn riding.
Good thing none of us expects too much...
Ratchit Quote : " but some in this thread are way overboard and ridiculous. "
Yeah and then he comes on this thread and talks smack pointed at me... And most know exactly who it was pointed at.
Ohhhhhh....... I sold several complete motors to guys that sawed them in half from them wonderful titanium wrist pins. few can imagine what is involved
in running a roller bearing in a snowmobile connecting rod.
The glass house rule........if you live in a glass house don't throw stones.
Dan
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jim
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The warrantee game the manufacturers play is real. It is all about slow turn around and them trying to find a way out by blaming you. There is no reason a motor can't be shipped 2 to 3 day air and installed immediately to get you back on the snow for next weekend. But they usually take longer, sometimes months, to fix it. This downtime kills seasons for some. To be fair, back in 2008 I had my M1000 motor crank let go. Took over 2 months to get a new motor. Why? Was out of the first year warrantee, which means the claim was handled by a borderline crooked 3rd party agency who took forever to validate the claim. Was out January to March...most of the season. It was intentional. It was wrong. I expect the same for this motor due to "backordered" parts (which is another bs lie...they could build more in a second, but wont). So, the backing of warrantee is a real concern...one I have not had good luck with for many manifacturers
Yep....... AND THAT IS THE VERY REASON WHY I POSTED THE INFO I POSTED ON THIS THREAD !
I have had 850 Piston ordered for over 6 weeks.
Most white collar business management employees at NASDAQ companies cannot be trusted..... Smoke and Mirrors everyday.
Its all about the share holders.
Dan
I have my own suspicions on what the background of this 850 engine really is.
I have heard all the talk about how it had been being tested for the last 4-5 years and what not. Well. we heard that same thing about the 2008 CFi-4 engine and I think the 900 as well.. Do we need to mention the Ultra 680?
Here is my guess.. Both Cat and Polaris were blind-sided with the 850 DOO release. Doo kept it under wraps very well.
They had been working on an engine but felt they had some time to continue the R&D with it. Then the DOO bombs dropped.
The released it as a Snow Check only , not to help their dealers with remaining inventory, but to minimize the amount of engines that were on the snow.
Cat also has a new engine but chose to finish R&D and release the mono rail in its place (from its single ski offering coming this year)
The 850 Polaris engine has some great features and some not so great.
I have been studying this engine's top end since July. It is a very nice cylinder capable of some great power. The piston could be one of the worst piston designs I have ever witnessed.
The short-comings and design mistakes will show up once everybody gets more miles on them.
I think it premature to think that there is an epidemic and need for a mass recall.
Time will tell, and it will all be clear enough very soon.
In the mean time, this is the most powerful engine Polaris has ever released. It has huge potential. Any durability issues can be fixed by Polaris or the aftermarket like they always are.
Polaris loves for us consumers and aftermarket suppliers to do the "testing" for them. And we ALWAYS oblige.
I have heard all the talk about how it had been being tested for the last 4-5 years and what not. Well. we heard that same thing about the 2008 CFi-4 engine and I think the 900 as well.. Do we need to mention the Ultra 680?
Here is my guess.. Both Cat and Polaris were blind-sided with the 850 DOO release. Doo kept it under wraps very well.
They had been working on an engine but felt they had some time to continue the R&D with it. Then the DOO bombs dropped.
The released it as a Snow Check only , not to help their dealers with remaining inventory, but to minimize the amount of engines that were on the snow.
Cat also has a new engine but chose to finish R&D and release the mono rail in its place (from its single ski offering coming this year)
The 850 Polaris engine has some great features and some not so great.
I have been studying this engine's top end since July. It is a very nice cylinder capable of some great power. The piston could be one of the worst piston designs I have ever witnessed.
The short-comings and design mistakes will show up once everybody gets more miles on them.
I think it premature to think that there is an epidemic and need for a mass recall.
Time will tell, and it will all be clear enough very soon.
In the mean time, this is the most powerful engine Polaris has ever released. It has huge potential. Any durability issues can be fixed by Polaris or the aftermarket like they always are.
Polaris loves for us consumers and aftermarket suppliers to do the "testing" for them. And we ALWAYS oblige.
Dan: I will keep you posted as to a “storm” if and when one ever hits Togwotee or the Snowy range. Something coming in tomorrow but has 40 mph winds with it.
Addie: I agree 100% with you the manufactures let the dealers do there R&D. It was the same way with the largest heavy equipment manufacturer here in the USA. They would come out with a new product send it the dealers and let them figure it out.
Addie: I agree 100% with you the manufactures let the dealers do there R&D. It was the same way with the largest heavy equipment manufacturer here in the USA. They would come out with a new product send it the dealers and let them figure it out.
850 Wire harness connector warning.
After pulling a few 850 motors we notice a difference on the ECU connectors.
The 800's have only one connector lock..... The 850 has double locks so be careful and don't assume you have it with one and just pull.
Make sure you get them both.
Dan
After pulling a few 850 motors we notice a difference on the ECU connectors.
The 800's have only one connector lock..... The 850 has double locks so be careful and don't assume you have it with one and just pull.
Make sure you get them both.
Dan
LMFAO!!!! You must work or worked for a Caterpillar dealer. You are correct on the “M” series motorgraders. What a pain in the caboose.
I have a Carl’s Cycle stage 4 kit on a 17’ AXY and felt it ran better then the 850 when I rode them side by side the stage 4 definitely had a better low end and mid range with a similar top end.
