* NA stands for Naturally Asperated...
** since your rantings got you booted off...
one more time- I have only stated the performance of this new MOTOR...not the performance of this new SLED...BJ
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427 hp 1200 4tec (on day one)
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* NA stands for Naturally Asperated...
** since your rantings got you booted off...
one more time- I have only stated the performance of this new MOTOR...not the performance of this new SLED...BJ
I know The Facts About The Motor.....BJ you don't no sqwat about the motor except for what you read and here 3rd hand. Have you torn the motor apart, run the motor or boosted the motor BJ ?
It was not very long ago here on SW that you new for FACT that the TRA ramps in the primary clutch were fixed and do't move at all. Thats how much Fact you know about the 4 tec
It was not very long ago here on SW that you new for FACT that the TRA ramps in the primary clutch were fixed and do't move at all. Thats how much Fact you know about the 4 tec
just go and take a nap you are getting grumpy..... haha
LOL...there YOU go ASSUMING again...I give guys like YOU the real facts...I dont learn them on here or 3rd hand...
The TRA ramp isnt a moving part...its fixed UNTIL you adjust the clicker...the A in TRA is for Adjustability.....I guess the Shockwave you have has a moving helix??? or is it Adjustable??......BJ
BTW- Glenn Hall just made 530+ hp on a boosted 1200 twin cat is that BS too???
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Please pass the Jell-O.
LMAO BJ the ramp(s) are moving parts, if not the A in TRA would not be neccasary. Adjustability = Moving Part
Nice try with the Shockwave BJ....Does the A in shockwave stand for adjustability as well ?
BJ did you know that the Doo 4 tec motor you know so little about and the turbo impeller fan your dreaming abou tinstalling isn't a moving part either.....Many parts are fixed UNTIL you turn on the key/ignition and the motor is running.
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Can someone paste BJ's comment on DooTalk. 
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LMAO BJ the ramp(s) are moving parts, if not the A in TRA would not be neccasary. Adjustability = Moving Part
Nice try with the Shockwave BJ....Does the A in shockwave stand for adjustability as well ?
BJ did you know that the Doo 4 tec motor you know so little about and the turbo impeller fan your dreaming abou tinstalling isn't a moving part either.....Many parts are fixed UNTIL you turn on the key/ignition and the motor is running.
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Huh......
I can speak chinese but this needs it's own translator. Glad to see you guys are still pen pals.
LMAO BJ the ramp(s) are moving parts, if not the A in TRA would not be neccasary. Adjustability = Moving Part
Nice try with the Shockwave BJ....Does the A in shockwave stand for adjustability as well ?
BJ did you know that the Doo 4 tec motor you know so little about and the turbo impeller fan your dreaming abou tinstalling isn't a moving part either.....Many parts are fixed UNTIL you turn on the key/ignition and the motor is running.
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IMHO- "adjustable" does not equal "moving part"...
TRA clicker on #3...is the ramp moving now??? (please answer this question...YES or NO)
Shockwave helix is adjustable...once set at 42 degrees...is it moving now??? (please answer this question...YES or NO)
A P-85 fly weight is a "moving part"...the TRA arm is a "moving part"...just a reference to whats really "moving" in your clutches while the sled is in motion..
The MOTOR comparo is lame...and not even applicable...we are talking about specific clutch parts...c'mon ice...stay on track...BJ
BJ your question is very stupid.....How did the ramp get to position #3 in the 1st place? When you figure that out you will have the answer to the other questions.
BJ, When your on clicker #5 and you click down to clicker #4,#3,#2, or #1 how does the ramp do that ? Certainly under your theory movement is not possible....So if you would please explain using your theory as to just how the 3 ramps go from #5 all the way down to #1 using your theory.
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BJ, When your on clicker #5 and you click down to clicker #4,#3,#2, or #1 how does the ramp do that ? Certainly under your theory movement is not possible....So if you would please explain using your theory as to just how the 3 ramps go from #5 all the way down to #1 using your theory.
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My mom knows more than your mom!
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Some people overlook the simplest things! Over and over again.
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Now that is funny.
What a shame on how a good post can turn into something like this! I am a Yamaha guy thru and thru, but love seeing something new, unique and inovative brought to a sport regardless of brand loyalty.
What was posted by "Big John" was setup for a good read and was great for a summer boost. So it rubbed some guys with thin skin the wrong way...tuff sh!t. If certain members on here took the effort they put into the endless pages of BS bashing, maybe we would have more inovative 400+ h.p. sleds of all manufactures.
Personally, I think what the Bennett's have done with the new 1200 4tec sled is cutting edge and obviously will deliver this winter, well done and way to throw your name into the ring of true players. I can't wait till the snow flys again. I can personally vouch for the trial, errors and frustrations of designing a one off kit to deliver 400+ h.p. on a snowmobile. Glenn, Bennett's and OSP Jim...you guys have my upmost respect for your efforts to keep "snowmobile performance" moving in the right direction.
What was posted by "Big John" was setup for a good read and was great for a summer boost. So it rubbed some guys with thin skin the wrong way...tuff sh!t. If certain members on here took the effort they put into the endless pages of BS bashing, maybe we would have more inovative 400+ h.p. sleds of all manufactures.
Personally, I think what the Bennett's have done with the new 1200 4tec sled is cutting edge and obviously will deliver this winter, well done and way to throw your name into the ring of true players. I can't wait till the snow flys again. I can personally vouch for the trial, errors and frustrations of designing a one off kit to deliver 400+ h.p. on a snowmobile. Glenn, Bennett's and OSP Jim...you guys have my upmost respect for your efforts to keep "snowmobile performance" moving in the right direction.
Not to bust you chops.... does your 1994 Turbocharged Vmax4 running 400hp @21# get it done on a "bone stock motor" as well ? ..... My next question for you is hows that 400hp Vmax4 with a 2008 world record title run at 10,000 feet in chest deep snow ?
BJ and I are like Bros, we can beat up on each other and at the end of the day we will still be Bros.
BJ and I are like Bros, we can beat up on each other and at the end of the day we will still be Bros.
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Not to bust you chops.... does your 1994 Turbocharged Vmax4 running 400hp @21# get it done on a "bone stock motor" as well ? ..... My next question for you is hows that 400hp Vmax4 with a 2008 world record title run at 10,000 feet in chest deep snow ?
BJ and I are like Bros, we can beat up on each other and at the end of the day we will still be Bros.
Not to bust you chops eh?
Sure sounds like you intended to do just that! Why don't you put your long track powder sled on flat ground at sea level and find out how yours does lined up next to his VMax4 then. 
Depends on what you consider stock...main rotating assembly rods, crank, cylinders are 100% stock, plus stock steel head gaskets. Pistons I had designed and built by Wiseco, and I do run 100% C-16. Keep in mind this is a 15-year old sled design also and a 2-stroke.
I don't run 10,000 elevation or powder so can't help you there, however, the sled wouldn't be putting out the stress of 400 horsepower on engine eternals at 10,000 ft elevation, more like 300-ish which less strain on eternals, as compared to sea-level. its a fixed 50/50, you guys run less h.p. due to elevation and run longer periods with hillclimbing. With sea-level on shaved ice its instant hookup with picks and no-loss of h.p. but for 1000 ft length in my situation, lots of strain on components. Two different worlds to compare the two, but I do believe 400+ h.p. is achievable on a stock rotating assembly. All good though.
I don't run 10,000 elevation or powder so can't help you there, however, the sled wouldn't be putting out the stress of 400 horsepower on engine eternals at 10,000 ft elevation, more like 300-ish which less strain on eternals, as compared to sea-level. its a fixed 50/50, you guys run less h.p. due to elevation and run longer periods with hillclimbing. With sea-level on shaved ice its instant hookup with picks and no-loss of h.p. but for 1000 ft length in my situation, lots of strain on components. Two different worlds to compare the two, but I do believe 400+ h.p. is achievable on a stock rotating assembly. All good though.
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