2023 RMK

[kidwoo]

If there's any institutional memory whatsoever in polaris these days, they'd make an 899, an 890, 910, whatever...... Just DO NOT revive the memories of that fusion catastrophe. I bought one of those things and all I remember thinking was "I don't understand why people do this sport"

 

[Fosgate]

If there's any institutional memory whatsoever in polaris these days, they'd make an 899, an 890, 910, whatever...... Just DO NOT revive the memories of that fusion catastrophe. I bought one of those things and all I remember thinking was "I don't understand why people do this sport"

Oh C'mon now. Google says they weren't that bad! Gould have been worse. You could have bought a Dragon 900.

 

[BeartoothBaron]

Getting a little off-topic, but I'm an amateur brewer myself. Been into it for over ten years, and have a couple favorite recipes; wish I had more time and the facilities to experiment. My sister and brother-in-law are into it too. At some point, maybe we'll put together our own private little brewery. When the home-brew craze first hit, lots of people jumped in and made lots of beer of highly varied quality; now that it's died down a little and craft brewers have cropped up all over, most people still into it make pretty good stuff, assuming you have the same tastes. Count me in if you need to reduce your stock!

Anyway, on the 900, I agree that no way, no how does Poo call anything a 900 or build a motor of 866 or 900cc displacement. Funny thing is, guys have been able to get them to last and be decent sleds (if you can stand the weight), but there's definitely a stink to that number now. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if they're working on a slightly bigger, tweaked NA motor. I wouldn't put money on a lot more displacement, just a slight bump and other improvements (call it v1.5 of the Patriot) for another 5-10 HP. It may not happen, they may put all their eggs in the Boost basket, or if they did a "big bore" the Boost might stay at 840cc, but the idea of a mid-life upgrade to the Patriot architecture seems logical.

With regard to electric, I only see that coming to trail sleds with existing technology. As mentioned earlier, the "fuel" is just silly heavy compared to petroleum, and just like airplanes, you can't hide it and work around it. If you made a 150 HP electric sled with the same RTR weight as existing mountain sleds, you'd probably only have enough battery to go 10 miles or so. Just adding L-ion batteries to theoretically match the range of current sleds would probably make something too heavy to get around on level ground, let alone climb anything. Where electric could work is in a trail sled, rent and tour type of operation. You'd go much farther because you're on a packed surface, you can charge and warm the batteries overnight, and it's a minor thing if someone runs a sled out of juice (you could probably have a booster pack to get it home). So for puttering around Yellowstone, sure, but for anything off-trail you quickly hit show-stopping limits.

 

[kidwoo]

You could have bought a Dragon 900.

that's what I'm talking about

not a dragon but the first year IQ chassis with that crappy fusion 900

 

[Reg2view]

They are always working on new motors. Business has changed from 25 years ago (500-600-700-800-900) - EPA certs alone would discount a 900 ever seeing the market. They'll expand the boost into trail sleds, first. JMPO.

The Con-Fusion 900/866, not to mention the "700", emphasis on the con, screwed over lots of peeps, and drove them to doo at the time (05). Those brainiacs were terminated, rightfully so. The Fusion was poo's hair-brained answer to the Rev and F7, and R1, after being caught flatfooted and coasting, and the RMK fusion was still a R&D sled that should have been delayed or never released. The IQ was the thrown together bandaid to use some Fusion tooling, when all the R&D focus was on the Rush, and adopting the Rush front end and Holz skid for the RMK. Sorry for being Captain Obvious for some of you with more "experience". "You call me old man and I'll kill you" (says Sam Elliot).

 

[Reg2view]

23's are out Monday the 28th. Dealer meeting next week in West. Christopher might be busy wiping spy photos .

 

[ullose272]

I know for a fact, that polaris is making the cylinders for the Carls 900 kits, with correct bore specs and carls then ports them. And i im pretty sure polaris is also supplying the bigger y pipes. Carls does not change mapping for the 900 kits. So IMO it would be real easy for them to make a 900.

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[revrider07]

A 900 with 650 decals to fool epa what could wrong

 

[Reg2view]

re: 900's - not doubting at all they are cast and available, with exhaust gear, and running in open mods, etc. Guessing that there will be no near-term release of a 900, given all the biz factors. Could be guessing dead wrong. At least the 850 has been figured out by year 4. You'd think fuel pumps would be easier.

 

[Tommyboy600]

Would you guys buy electric snowmobiles? Let's say they work as well or maybe just a hair worse.

Absolutely. Electric with 3-4 hours range. Quiet, no gas, no oil, no breathing fumes and under 550 pounds. No brainer.

 

[Ndanger]

Here is a comparison of Elec vs Gas, probably not a good or fair comparison but a general indication of weight in regards to a car. The point being that to some degree the high cost and relative fragile nature of snowmachines (fairly low mileage life expectancy) is related to keeping them as light a possible. I do agree that it would be a big deal to have the clean nature of electrical propulsion. Unfortunately the current battery technology has a couple of drawbacks, poor cold performance and higher weight would seem to be counter intuitive to the sport.

Size​	Gas​	​	Elec​
Compact Car​	2919​	​	3,582 lbs – Model 3 Standard Range Plus​
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Midsize Car​	3361​	​	4,561 lbs – Model S Long Range​
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Large Car​	3882​	​	5,390 lbs – Model X Plaid​

 

[User Name]

Heard ski Doo is releasing a new chassis with a motor pushing over 210 HP. I imagine there will be a non turbo pushing a little less

 

[RBalazs]

I just got ahold of a sneak peek of the 2023 Ski Doo Freeride Chopped slashed skinny 137 ultralight Mountain Sled

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[Pinchecharlie]

You think this new platform will do away with the "ski doo steering" ?? The world says its weird not me

 

[turboless terry]

It isn't weird. It's what your used to

 

[RBalazs]

It isn't weird. It's what your used to

It’s a lot lighter than my XM though [emoji23][emoji23]


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[Bowtie496]

A 900 with 650 decals to fool epa what could wrong

Kind of like the 73 and 74 Pontiac Trans-Am Super Duty, told EPA that 455 only made 185 hp. Quietly running 10.5 on track.

 

[Fosgate]

Heard ski Doo is releasing a new chassis with a motor pushing over 210 HP. I imagine there will be a non turbo pushing a little less

180hp and has a chaincase drive on their turbo Summit R and a 9. something gallon gas tank. Makes me wonder why they didn't just go with a 2 1/2 gallon to claim lightest mountain sled. Who cares if your always siphoning off your freinds.

 

[Teth-Air]

180hp and has a chaincase drive on their turbo Summit R.

Would be nice if they could build a 180 HP N/A sled. It is not out of reach.

 

[turboless terry]

180hp and has a chaincase drive on their turbo Summit R and a 9. something gallon gas tank. Makes me wonder why they didn't just go with a 2 1/2 gallon to claim lightest mountain sled. Who cares if your always siphoning off your freinds.

Yes but you don't see all the threads on how to pack gas in the doo column