I think it real question did Doo have a Gen 5 planned for MY 23 and if yes are they still doing it? Sounds like there is plenty of unfulfilled gen4 demand right now. Why upgrade to new stuff when you're selling out of what you have?
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These big two manufacturers have a years-developed plan for designing and testing new engines, chassis, etc.
I'd imagine whatever decision about 23 MY was made quite some time ago. The train has almost certainly left the station on that with respect to retooling and new materials, getting thousands of those new parts built, etc.
The market seems to be happy with a new chassis every 6-7 years. Much longer than that and the stagnancy turns off loyal consumers as the other brand innovates.
With little snow in most of the west thus far this winter, a lot of people probably aren't riding, and their current sleds aren't seeing many miles. Why buy another Gen4 if the one you have is still running great? Oh- you snow check a Gen5 because it looks awesome. That's why doo will upgrade.
I'd imagine whatever decision about 23 MY was made quite some time ago. The train has almost certainly left the station on that with respect to retooling and new materials, getting thousands of those new parts built, etc.
The market seems to be happy with a new chassis every 6-7 years. Much longer than that and the stagnancy turns off loyal consumers as the other brand innovates.
With little snow in most of the west thus far this winter, a lot of people probably aren't riding, and their current sleds aren't seeing many miles. Why buy another Gen4 if the one you have is still running great? Oh- you snow check a Gen5 because it looks awesome. That's why doo will upgrade.
In a normal case I'd totally agree. But after seeing how car manufacturers have been nimble enough to audible, I have to imagine Doo at least has the option available to them. One of the perks of JIT is that stuff becomes baked far later (And less liability on a manuf when the economy ****s the bed but we tend to ignore that stuff in this economy)
Oh I feel awesome. Sitting on about $5k of brewing, bottling and keg equipment that I don't know if I'll ever be able to use again and 10gal of German Apfel wine at 16%ABV that I've been aging for three years that I probably will never drink is the only suck part. At least I can still enjoy by Cuban cigars.
I can imagine that poo will release something electric for kids/trail/utility first, but not for mountain until it's really well tested on the flatlands and cold temps.
We were talking about electric. The point was brought up about how many miles to we actually ride in a day compared to flatlanders? 40-50 in deep is a long day for us. 100-250 a day is normal for them. Battery testing is probably better done on mountain sleds?
Yeah, but the tracks probably travel as far in 40-50 deep miles as 150 trail miles, and likely at higher RPM.
If a mountain sled dies in the hills, it's a lot tougher to get yourself home.
If a trail sled dies on the trail in the midwest, you toss out a thumb on the highway that's nearby and easy to walk to on a groomed trail, and/or call for a ride. Also much easier to double out when it's flat.
Apples and oranges. I've put on thousands of miles in MN and WY, and I'd much rather ride and experiment on radical new technology in the midwestern flatlands before trusting my life to it 20 miles from nowhere in Wyoming.
Uh. Huh? Miles are miles. You do realize that miles are based on track travel, not GPS? Granted, much harder miles on mountain sleds.
Agreed. It is all we could come up with, electric. The guy that is in the know and rode it is excited to get one next year. Mountain guy. He signed an NDA, so we don't have have a clue, just guessing.
No, just disconnect the battery and tow it home.
But you are correct, if they cannot come up with chips for regular sleds, no way for an electric sled. Hmmm. I think I saw something written about a super narrow kid type sled, like the Blast? This guy wouldn't need one of those. OH. Wait. Polaris snowbike. I did see that. Electric snowbike? Polaris has a ton of powerplants out there, maybe they adapted one to a snowbike. They own Timbersled. Final answer from Tater's dad: Polaris Snowbike.
I am pretty sure that my guess was wrong. Very sure. Lol.
My guess is BNG, with one exception. They'll finally release their response to Doo's shot system. It'll likely be a portable battery/key that you remove from the sled to keep warm inside overnight. Then it'll start the engine by "jogging" it back and forth to get the fuel up to the cylinders. Polaris has a patent on it that I read a couple of years ago. Just look it up.
Polaris is going to release a 900 at the end of this month. I know I'm going to get crap for postin this but I feel like my source for this info is pretty solid. I just wanted to post this now so at the end of the month I can say I told you so haha!
I think a 900 is the logical next step. It's been four model years of the 850 Patriot now. With many aftermarket engine mods including the 900 big bore kit, this would make sense within what's already been proven possible and reliable for the bottom end and chassis.
Polaris owns at least 3 different EV companies currently so developing EV's is not a matter of if, it's just a matter of when. Aixam, Goupil, GEM fyi. And I thought I read somewhere that they had purchased an EV motorcycle company too. They already build an all electric Ranger and they will continue to develop and sell more and more EV's. Will it come to the snowmobile segment in 2023? Who knows ....
A little quick research on the net shows that they partnered with ZERO Motorcycles to develop the Ranger. I guess they didn't buy them. The Ranger is "advancing the Company’s strategic rEV’d up electrification strategy" per their press release.
A little quick research on the net shows that they partnered with ZERO Motorcycles to develop the Ranger. I guess they didn't buy them. The Ranger is "advancing the Company’s strategic rEV’d up electrification strategy" per their press release.
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Would you guys buy electric snowmobiles? Let's say they work as well or maybe just a hair worse.
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