Shipping is definitely a major issue right now I have a generator that got put on a truck in Indiana mid January and isn't supposed to arrive until the 6th of February and I'm in Colorado about a 1000 miles away
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I ordered a home standby generator last Sep. along with an automatic transfer switch. The unit itself was in stock and arrived a couple weeks later; the projected ship date for the transfer switch was the end of October. Last update was mid-November, projected to ship in March. At this point, if it takes a year from the original order to show up, it would be no big surprise. OEMs may just have to adjust to no longer being able to build enough to meet demand; maybe to a limited pre-order system for most sales and then ship what they can once those are built. Hard to say Poo is blameless considering how late snowchecks have been pre-plandemic, but we've got problems that would take a year to sort out if everyone pulled their heads out. And that's not likely when so many people (a disproportionate number of them in government) are still working through "15 days to slow the spread," almost two years later...
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Polaris should move to their utv business model, which also can take forever. Just release the model and start taking orders and building them right away. If you get your sled in july then it is what it is. If you wait til october to order a sled then you probably wont get it by christmas. Its how like every other industry is.
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I'm kind of hoping for a 900 N/A... as a lightest big bore option for most HP. There's a reason Burandt and others run 900s on all their lightweight NA sleds.
Since it doesn't seem to snow anymore, I think a boost is less desirable than when it actually snows.
Since it doesn't seem to snow anymore, I think a boost is less desirable than when it actually snows.
At a dealer this am getting parts, poo rep was just leaving. Poo rep would not commit to any snowcheck date, per the dealer, dealer thought not before mid-March, perhaps later. Dealer is anticipating any 22 Matryx floor units/SC walkaways are going to roll fast once SC23 happens. We don't need no stinking fuel pumps. Some dealers will reprice these 22 units, higher, after 23 prices get posted. SD will get a jump on poo for SC, maybe a month or more, and SD themselves could incentivize SC23 with money or delivery guarantees to get peeps to commit to a unit before poo opens SC.
I think the reality is, with large price increases along with lack of predictable snow check delivery dates, the spring order demand subsides slightly for 23.
Doo probably releases Gen5 chassis mid Feb, which gets a lot of people to snow check, and probably maxes out some quota of early orders.
Poo probably does less of an update, which reduces the snow check demand. Presumably poo expects to manufacture more boost sleds so snow check season fills more boost orders, reducing the panic.
The remaining 22 models will sell just fine. This isn't 2018 when dealers had piles of crates out back all summer long, aging finely in factory packaging, only to be sold at or near dealer cost. That era is gone for a while.
I'm a physical damage appraiser for all things that roll or requires registration for an insurance company. From What I have seen trying to obtain parts for cars, semis, rv's, ATV's. This supply issue is only going to get worse. It's not just the availability of parts but the quality of what it received as well. From part suppliers perspective they have issues with the raw materials they receive and pressure on the workers, who are understaffed, to quickly fill orders and it is happening at the expense of quality. I hope Polaris thoroughly inspects and randomly tests parts on arrival and quickly rejects any batches that don't make the grade. I also hope they don't pressure their assembly workers to hard that they regularly make mistakes that affects my sled. Does me no good to get it in early season if parts keep failing. I'm placing my Snowcheck with the understanding that I may not get it at all in time to ride next season. While I may not be 100% ok with that, it is what it is. Anything sooner is a bonus.
The manufacturers put themselves in this situation with the "Just-in-time" manufacturing scheme invented by the bean counters. The management trusted that the plan was substainable and would give biggest profits. Now they have been stung, I believe they will see a value of ordering parts early and holding a bigger inventory.
They can order right now for next season and hopefully it gives plaenty of time for delivery. If they do this they will not be able to accept all orders but only enough for the parts they pre-ordered. Might see limited supply if they don't predict sales numbers properly. China is back to work Feb 10th after their New Year break so unless the Olympics also slows them down, the work force should ramp up soon.
They can order right now for next season and hopefully it gives plaenty of time for delivery. If they do this they will not be able to accept all orders but only enough for the parts they pre-ordered. Might see limited supply if they don't predict sales numbers properly. China is back to work Feb 10th after their New Year break so unless the Olympics also slows them down, the work force should ramp up soon.
If I had a snow check I was waiting for I would take it for sure. I bet at least a 2k bump in price and the same availability issues as this year. So you dump this years, and snow check a 23 so you can miss 2 seasons?????
For Polaris, I bet the only differences with the 23's will be that they will have all bugs resolved. Maybe the P22 clutch will make it to the N/A and a stronger rear bumper will be an option to protect the tunnel.
Khaos Boost 165/2.75 seems like a safe bet too.
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Probably right on most of this but you know they won't change bumper. It is fine for most people. You know how long they went with cheesy carbon fiber wrapped bumper. Who didn't break one. I do believe they will offer kaos 165 boost.
Talking with some folks that were well connected with the part of the country that Ford trucks are made had some interesting comments. They have been told that all fleet purchases must be made in a very short window early on and after that no fleet purchases. Additionally, Ford will only be producing 20 percent of the volume of previous years due to a shortage of aluminum supply. If that were to be true it is a very compelling reason to be cautious about delivery expectations for other items manufactured out of aluminum. But then again there were a few drinks going around so hard to say how accurate the info was.
Ford has been trying since early on to maintain supplies. Though they were also adapted to the "Just In Time" supply chain management. They had a derailment of a train in Missouri back in August and lost all the F150's stuffed in 33 rail transport cars. From my understanding is the Railroad will typically bury debris like that onsite or haul it off and let insurance take care of it. Ford worked out that it could not replace those chips in the vehicles and reached agreement to send techs to go out and salvage what they could for chips and hard to come by parts.
I'm curious as to how GM is doing. I remember looking into them in 2014 and they had not yet adapted the Just In Time supply chain management and sticking with the old method and they were still not doing well since the bailout. JIT supply chain management is not a bad thing back when Toyota brought it forward and turned around companies like Harley Davidson, Chrysler, Mercedes etc. Quality for one was a huge benefactor. Find a problem on the line or soon after a company could halt production, have supplier reps right there that they can quickly fix the issue and restart the line. Eliminating continual use of defective/design issue parts continuing to roll out and have to issue huge recalls. It'll be interesting if GM did not fully embrace that method yet to see if they are able to continue to crank out production. I will say I bought a new Caddy in May for $7k less than MSRP where KIA & Hyundai would not negotiate and added a $3000 markup on their Telluride/Palisade the wife wanted. Wound up getting the caddy for just a couple grand more. Just refied it already along with a home equity loan (GAP coverage wasnt avail at initial purch) while lenders were happy to beat the incentivized rate to get me, they ran a book on the vehicle and it booked for more than I paid for it and was really close to MSRP. So maybe it's catching up the GM also.
Were drinks going around when the train story was told because those are GMCs not Fords ? Or maybe you just drink a lot before you get the courage to post on Forums ?
No, I cant drink anymore (or at least 6 more months) after loosing a bit of intestine in surgery. I cant process alcohol the same. I'd be a cheap date on half a beer but I can't burp so maybe I'd blow up like a seagull that just ate an Alka-Seltzer. I got up after a late night and no snow to ride with my usual DGAF this morning. I was trying to find photos that I had seen after it happened months ago but the only thing on google was either rail cars or looked like a photo taken with a potato. I grabbed the first small photo with trucks dumping out of a rail car. Apparently that was from 2019 when another train derailed dumping Jeeps and GMC's crushing them and dumping them all over like they are ready for the landfill. (Isn't that where they really belong anyway?) https://www.motortrend.com/news/jeep-gladiator-wrangler-chevy-nevada-train-derailment/
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