2023 cat. Where is it?

[Betterview]

I have had air and coil overs. I am 155 out of the shower, and they both have advantages. The air shocks are very progressive and do an excellent job of resisting bottoming out. Coil overs are capable of a more cushy ride when I want that, but are more prone to bottoming out. I have had both coil over Walker Evans and coil over Fox QS3 shocks. They are both adjustable, but the Walker Evans are very difficult to adjust the rears after they are all iced up. I currently have Fox QS3 coil overs with preload set to run soft (#1) for most riding, and move to #2 or #3 if a heavier rider or trashy conditions exist. In summary I think coil overs can give a better ride for lighter riders and air becomes more desirable as rider weight goes up

 

[IDspud]

Excellent point.
High volume dealer even mentioned to me once that he’s seen more rail damage on coil overs than air due to bottoming out, sells heavier springs as a solution.

Also likely a bit of user error from guys not tuning coils (or air) to their size.

 

[sno*jet]

I think its partially the single beam that makes their tracks grab harder than others. They should bring back the float action twin rail for all around riders for sure, it rides nicer than polaris' skid, at least the Axys' Ive rode. But you cant deny the alpha rail holds way less snow, basically nothing.
I didnt realize skidoo was using old school headlights in 22 still, nobody picks on them like they do cat for sure. the gauge on doos was pretty meh up to this point as well. Atacc or whatever its called is genious IMO. Kincaid was a goof ball but he did stir up attention better than the current guys. Give that kyle saxton dude a real mountain sled and pump him up, he cant hang on that damn 146, needs the 154 3". For those of you who watch proven progression...

 

[Pinchecharlie]

Thats where polaris is really beating the competition-social media. Every cool kid wants a khaos. And maybe rightfully so I dunno cause I don't have the skill but man they are in your face and the new school lives in that space and so it just works. I think a kid could see Caleb do that stuff and think "I can do that." Me i see a helicopter ride and surgery lol. I won't lie though marketing works and as a guy who is literally never been involved to a guy who's really trying to learn ....this is what it feels like....
Pollaris- Caleb, burandt, bow ties and wheelies who cares if it's broke its baddass
Skidoo-old guys with big trailers and ford's , French accents and Norona lol
Artic cat- some guy from the midwest with a thick accent and fur hat talking about top end speed on his 1200 mile ride to his ice fishing shanty...lol
Now remember I know nothing . Just saying is all not trying to offend! I have seen guys ripping artic cats on you tube and muskoka rips that skidoo but have you seen Logan pehola (?) Ride or nevermind Caleb he's just an alien. All Pollaris guys...iam sure Caleb could do it on a alpha? I'll say it again for anyone who'll listen, I think it's crazy how much we spend on these things and how little you can trust .

 

[line8]

Thats where polaris is really beating the competition-social media. Every cool kid wants a khaos. And maybe rightfully so I dunno cause I don't have the skill but man they are in your face and the new school lives in that space and so it just works. I think a kid could see Caleb do that stuff and think "I can do that." Me i see a helicopter ride and surgery lol. I won't lie though marketing works and as a guy who is literally never been involved to a guy who's really trying to learn ....this is what it feels like....
Pollaris- Caleb, burandt, bow ties and wheelies who cares if it's broke its baddass
Skidoo-old guys with big trailers and ford's , French accents and Norona lol
Artic cat- some guy from the midwest with a thick accent and fur hat talking about top end speed on his 1200 mile ride to his ice fishing shanty...lol
Now remember I know nothing . Just saying is all not trying to offend! I have seen guys ripping artic cats on you tube and muskoka rips that skidoo but have you seen Logan pehola (?) Ride or nevermind Caleb he's just an alien. All Pollaris guys...iam sure Caleb could do it on a alpha? I'll say it again for anyone who'll listen, I think it's crazy how much we spend on these things and how little you can trust .

I will say I’m far from one of the cool kids. But the Khaos is very fun to ride.
But you’re exactly right about the presence of the social crowd/sales.


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[boondocker97]

In general my recommendation on suspension is floats for bigger and/or more aggressive riders and coil springs for lighter riders.

Caleb used to do the things he does on a Cat before Polaris started paying him.

 

[MrIQR]

Can only get the good walker shock package with hi/low speed compression on the khaos, that’s why I’d buy one, can tighten the limiter strap to make it handle more pro like if needed.

Really hope something new is in store for cat and their prices are less the poo and doo.

 

[Pinchecharlie]

I allways hear guys say ," yeah I got my wife a khaos..." are you sure it was for her? I got my wife a new boat last year but really it was for me lol!!! I can't lie I think they are pretty sharp looking. Iam still new enough where I kinda just want the one that I like the looks of lol!!!

 

[line8]

Sometimes it’s easier to put your toes in the water on someone else’s boat before you put both water wings on. ?

 

[Pinchecharlie]

Well it's not a 23 but it's mine. I got it with a 2 year warranty for 11.5 . Iam really gonna have to be careful at first!!!! I probably should have waited but I was feeling sick to death of thinking about "deals" and this and that and blah blah.. so yeah there ya go. Hope you cat lovers are happy lol!! Gonna send the gnar this weekend lol.

 

[GlennRMK]

Wow, is that new? A new 21 leftover 800 Alpha Hardcore E start for 11.5? Great deal!

 

[Pinchecharlie]

It's not 100% new it was like a shop sled that they used. It has 600 something miles? But they are starting a warranty program for their used sleds I guess? I dunno but it covers big things just not clutch . Actually they said no "wear" parts but the engine and electronics and defects? Hope I didn't just get ripped by that lol! I dunno but they had new 22 m8s in there and they are sharp but I just wanna learn and I don't need a 17k + sled. But the blue is beautiful!!

 

[IDspud]

Make sure the wife posts your obit so we know where you’ve gone.

 

[Vern]

Social media is the only place Polaris is crushing anyone, on the snow all the sleds are comparable with little edges to each brand in certain areas. Polaris has got their marketing figured out and that’s why you see so many of the big names on Polaris. They’re payed to be on those sleds. About 2-3 years ago Caleb was doing all that on a cat and cat lost a huge opportunity to get in the social media game by letting Polaris scoop him up. Hell, even burandt used to ride for cat back in the glory days of the M-series.

You should be happy with that sled, and the perks of being new is you’ll just have to learn to ride it and not relearn like those of us that came off a lifetime of two railers.

 

[Dam Dave]

The electronic reverse was only patented for 5 ish years after that anyone could use it. Polaris did have legal action against Doo and through a settlement got to use it sooner than Cat. The reason for the 5 years was Doo was not the first to pattern a 2stroke running backwards, this was done long ago. So they were granted a 5 year protection as no one had used it in this application. The shot is in the same category using a magneto to start an engine was discovered long ago. Doo would have been granted rights for this idea in this application. I am by no means an expert in this subject but this is the info i have gathered over the years from reading the related info.
I don't see why Cat doesn't just use a light weight starter and a capacitor. Could probably have a working system under 10 lbs. Less complicated than Shot and most likely more reliable.

Had a 60s vintage 2 stroke gulf cart that reversed by reversing the engine, just push a different button on the floor for direction, everything old is new again....................

 

[Pinchecharlie]

Make sure the wife posts your obit so we know where you’ve gone.

Well...I thought this was funny at first...but now iam freaking out again... damnit potatahoe whyd you say that?! Iam I not gonna be able to handle her? ****e did I make a mistake!?

 

[goridedoo]

Well it's not a 23 but it's mine. I got it with a 2 year warranty for 11.5 . Iam really gonna have to be careful at first!!!! I probably should have waited but I was feeling sick to death of thinking about "deals" and this and that and blah blah.. so yeah there ya go. Hope you cat lovers are happy lol!! Gonna send the gnar this weekend lol.

Nice sled, and a good deal!- Especially in this environment. You will enjoy it, they are good sleds regardless of what I or anyone else says

 

[IDspud]

Well...I thought this was funny at first...but now iam freaking out again... damnit potatahoe whyd you say that?! Iam I not gonna be able to handle her? ****e did I make a mistake!?

No, I just knew you’d do that and it’s pretty damn funny.

You’ll love it.

 

[IDspud]

Nice sled, and a good deal!- Especially in this environment. You will enjoy it, they are good sleds regardless of what I or anyone else says

Anybody else smell overheated lips on a$$????

 

[summ8rmk]

Well...I thought this was funny at first...but now iam freaking out again... damnit potatahoe whyd you say that?! Iam I not gonna be able to handle her? ****e did I make a mistake!?

Ur ok.
Ur thumb dictates how much power comes out of the engine.
U can make it as slow or as fast as u want, all with that right [emoji1360].

Going with the 2.6 track is a very smart decision for a beginner.

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