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2009/10 Snowy Range snow conditions

Took a quick half day ride today and the snow was better than expected. Deep and soft but still no base. Probably 8" fresh overnight but we rode untracked powder all day. Trees and rocks still jumping out.

Left and it was snowing very hard.

.....no base in the world could provide enough support for that
600 pound rock of a yamaha you're riding!!
 
Easy there. Funny thing is I rode today with two Arctic Cats, one SkiDoo Rev, and one SkiDoo XP. The 600lb Yamaha was the only one not to get stuck.

So.....I'm not sure I follow. The 2 Arctic Cats were 1971 AC EXT's?? You're 7 year old daughter was on the Rev and the 9 year old son was on the XP courageously trying to highmark all the punks running up and down Lake Marie while you were at the bottom watching patiently, keeping track of the group....no wonder you didn't get stuck!!

LOL JK Friend

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it would be fun to see.. now is it pump gas or race gas? and how long of track does it have?

Alan, its a pump gas unit, 155 track. A good friend of mine owned it and he has an 010 model he's installing the new bd outfit on. I actually spent some time on it last year. BTW sunshine, temps in the upper teens this morn, little wind and good snow from the last few days--woo hoo!
 
Unless something changes at work, I will be headed up tomorrow with a couple of guys. Should be good considering the recent snow!
 
Albany Riding conditions

We just came from Albany and the riding was great. Lots of good powder. We would like to thank the crew at the Albany Lodge for always being there and taking such good care of us.. We were sorry to find that the Rendevous was closed at 8:30 on a Sat. night. Kinda wanted to warm up some after venturing over there. We love their burgers. Maybe next time. I hear the Snowy Mountain Lodge is closed right now.. I would call ahead if you are counting on them for fuel. The Q trail out of Albany is rough due to logging but it doesn't interfere much. We still had a great time and look forward to the 26th to head back. So far it looks to be a promising season of sledding. Much more snow than this time last year. Merry Christmas and Happy Sledding
 
Avalanche danger considerable & high!!!!!!!!!

FROM THE MEDICINE BOW NORDIC SKI PATROL: 12/13/09 -

The avalanche danger for the Front Range Zone is HIGH on N-NE-E-SE aspects near and above treeline. Elsewhere, it is CONSIDERABLE. Human-triggered slides remain probable to likely for Tuesday

Snow pit summary:

Location: Just down from the ridge on a northwest facing slope in the trees at the Old Libby Creek Ski Area.

Elevation: approximately 9600 ft.

Snow pack: approx. 3ft. total depth,
1) top 6-8 inches of very new snow that was light and fluffy
2) next 6-8 inches (going down) of consolidated fine-grained new-ish snow
Note: contrast in consolidation created potential failure plane between layer 1 and 2
3) next ~12 in. of large (0.5 cm. max.) "sugar" size grains, very light, lots of air space, very loose
Note: It is highly likely that layer 3 is what is compacting and creating the "whumpfing" sound.
4) bottom foot of consolidated sugar grains appearing to be fairly stable

No uniform stress tests were performed.

We decided to spread out and descend within the trees. Upon descent it was found that shooting cracks and whumpfing were ubiquitous features of the snow pack. Slabs were prone to break, and slide a few inches. Though nothing moved very much, it was decided to abandon the decent and return to the ridge. A shallower (sorry, no quantitative values) slope with about 4 inches of snow was chosen for descent. My skis have the core shots to prove it.

Almost every open area we passed through that day made the whumpfing sound. I heard more whumpfing that day than in all my previous experiences combined. I'm tempted to call the sugar crystals depth hoar, and site the -10 degree temperatures for their formation.
 
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A good friend. I didnt think he had any of them dan. Hope he got them all ready for us, cause we havent seen them since last march... see ya in 2 days....14 of us coming out it wont be good
 
We just came from Albany and the riding was great. Lots of good powder. We would like to thank the crew at the Albany Lodge for always being there and taking such good care of us.. We were sorry to find that the Rendevous was closed at 8:30 on a Sat. night. Kinda wanted to warm up some after venturing over there. We love their burgers. Maybe next time. I hear the Snowy Mountain Lodge is closed right now.. I would call ahead if you are counting on them for fuel. The Q trail out of Albany is rough due to logging but it doesn't interfere much. We still had a great time and look forward to the 26th to head back. So far it looks to be a promising season of sledding. Much more snow than this time last year. Merry Christmas and Happy Sledding

I'm heading out there the 26th as well from iowa. Do you have any pictures you could share?
 
A good friend. I didnt think he had any of them dan. Hope he got them all ready for us, cause we havent seen them since last march... see ya in 2 days....14 of us coming out it wont be good

You couldn't break us in slowly?!? Thanks for the warning! Actually, I saw the reservation on the books yesterday and I'm looking forward to seeing all of you. I'll warn the rest of the town...
 
A good friend. I didnt think he had any of them dan. Hope he got them all ready for us, cause we havent seen them since last march... see ya in 2 days....14 of us coming out it wont be good

As you can tell from Jen's post the women and children have been dully informed, windows boarded up, barricades installed--I think we're ready!!!!
 
My liver is starting to quiver. I'm hoping we get are sleds off the trailer sometime this weekend.:beer;:beer;:beer;:beer;:eek:
First trip out is always a rough one.
 
I with steve on that, friends?, good work steve and nate on getting the trailer, sleds, and truck ready to go. I bet Pelz is proud. Hill and I will pick you two up in lincoln after he kicks you two out of the truck on the way out.
 
No pics, sorry guys the new cameras were not delivered yet, and the old ones have dead batteries, we were not planning on filming or taking stills yet and wish we would of, took one of my guides in to an area and there was 4 feet of base and 4 feet of fresh powder over the hood all day. Libby Flats was getting pounded
 
You couldn't break us in slowly?!? Thanks for the warning! Actually, I saw the reservation on the books yesterday and I'm looking forward to seeing all of you. I'll warn the rest of the town...

Sorry, Jen but Scubba probly will get the boot from the friendly store heard Big John got kicked out a couple weeks ago by your new bartender (ROSS) If he cant put up Big John I know he wont put up with Scubba's Sh*t lol
 
FROM THE MEDICINE BOW NORDIC SKI PATROL: 12/13/09 -

The avalanche danger for the Front Range Zone is HIGH on N-NE-E-SE aspects near and above treeline. Elsewhere, it is CONSIDERABLE. Human-triggered slides remain probable to likely for Tuesday

Snow pit summary:

Location: Just down from the ridge on a northwest facing slope in the trees at the Old Libby Creek Ski Area.

Elevation: approximately 9600 ft.

Snow pack: approx. 3ft. total depth,
1) top 6-8 inches of very new snow that was light and fluffy
2) next 6-8 inches (going down) of consolidated fine-grained new-ish snow
Note: contrast in consolidation created potential failure plane between layer 1 and 2
3) next ~12 in. of large (0.5 cm. max.) "sugar" size grains, very light, lots of air space, very loose
Note: It is highly likely that layer 3 is what is compacting and creating the "whumpfing" sound.
4) bottom foot of consolidated sugar grains appearing to be fairly stable

No uniform stress tests were performed.

We decided to spread out and descend within the trees. Upon descent it was found that shooting cracks and whumpfing were ubiquitous features of the snow pack. Slabs were prone to break, and slide a few inches. Though nothing moved very much, it was decided to abandon the decent and return to the ridge. A shallower (sorry, no quantitative values) slope with about 4 inches of snow was chosen for descent. My skis have the core shots to prove it.

Almost every open area we passed through that day made the whumpfing sound. I heard more whumpfing that day than in all my previous experiences combined. I'm tempted to call the sugar crystals depth hoar, and site the -10 degree temperatures for their formation.

Rode Mon/Tue....Found very good snow but depth and base still not enough to ride without concern for rocks, stumps, etc.... Today around 12:30 MTN rode into Libby Lake and witnessed this avalanche. Pictures were with phone and not the best but the slide was 300 plus feet wide and upwards of 6-800 long...... hard to tell but appeared to be 4-6 foot deep looking at the top where the avy started. Chunks 4+ feet mixed in with slabs.... Everyone in our group had shovels/beacons/probes etc.... Thankfully no one was caught in it!!!


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So do I understand this correctly? All the Farmers are heading west??
You guys have a great time, be careful and stay on the trail ok!! Powder is for locals only!!!!!:D
Seriously have a great time and have a few:beer;:beer;'s for me!!
dc
 
Great snow but watch for slides

The front side from Green Rock is still thin but not bad. We got in the trees on the front side and it was good. Still have to pick your way around down logs. The back side was outstanding. We rode in untouched snow all day until we got to the Widow Maker. We saw where there was a slide on Sugarloaf. It had not happened long before we got there around 2:45pm. This is a popular climbing hill for many, be VERY CAREFULL. Pictures 12 - 15 are of the slide. I looked like it was from 4' to 6' in depth.

If anyone is concerned about making a long trip, don't be. It will be well worth it.

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