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2 ppl. on mtn. side... THUNDERSTRUCK 6

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I watched alot of Bugs bunny cartoons when I was young.
But I never painted a tunnel on the side of a mountain so someone would run into it, only to have a train come out of it & run me over, nope never did that even though I watched it a thousand times.
 
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I completely understand your point, and I agree 100% with you.........

These guys should not be running up the hill, more than one at a time spring snow, early season snow, or midwinter snow.

Bottom line is that when there is a thread of "avy takes life of____________, and circumstances come out that there were several people on the hill at once, we all get on here and say "What a bunch of tards for more than one being on the hill at once".

Yet, when the guys who do this stuff for a living do it, somehow that is "ok", they are professionals, don't question them, you cannot do this so shut up!

Apparently there are different guidelines for this depending if you do this for a living, wether it is spring snow or not, wether you have the "balls" to do it etc.

We all know that most of these climbs are dangerous, so is stock car racing or all extreme sports. But if the generally accepted rules of an activity say that you should not take this type of risk, maybe,,,,,,,,,,,, juuust maybe the leaders of the sport should set a good example for others to follow.

That is all you were getting at...................... I think right?


EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.









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No were on the video does it say this is a training film on how to climb a hill? These are extreme films. I have watched many riders do things that I just shake my head at in disbelief but we are making an extreme film... Some of these climbs that have been made are just as dangerous as any avalanche hill. If you make the wrong turn or your sled craps out you could be dead. So I guess we should just make a film with us sitting in a meadow eating a candy bar. Yah that will sell......

I do see your points but come on. I see people do things everyday that my brain tells me not to do.

If I wanted to get into MX I dont think I would watch one of Travis Pastrana's films for pointers. Oh yah I can do a back flip I saw it on film. I know I am going a bit extreme on this but it goes along the same lines.

If any thing this is a good thread to help people realize the dangers.

And no none of us get paid to ride in these films.
 
Man, I hope you guys don't watch Jack A ss or else you've got a lotta bumps & bruises coming!









WARNING
Only one on the hill at a time (but feel free to try the 50' vertical drop)
 
I guess your right, now that I think of it.......


I look forward to the next series of TS films.

Maybe this next year you not only include multiple riders going up the hill at once, but maybe you could throw in a few scenes of:

1. 5-10 people sitting at the bottom of a hill watching (That would be great!!)
2. How about a few scenes of riders traversing a wind loaded slope, with a group watching at the bottom of the hill (Even better!!). Capture on film a slide starting and coming down the hill and engulfing the people ( wow, I would buy that!!)
3. And don't forget to include a scene of someone being stuck half way up a hill and his buddies all coming up to help him out (Fantastic!!)


Oh, I forgot, those are things that we should not do when riding in the mountains, but don't you dare deny me those scenes of multiple riders going up at once!! Otherwise next year I will not buy the "next in the series"!!
 
If any thing this is a good thread to help people realize the dangers.

And no none of us get paid to ride in these films.



If they are not getting paid does that mean they're not professionals? OOOh great a bunch of amateurs climbing the hill 2 at a time for the glory of being on film.;)
 
well hell i dont need a mtn to ride stupid and theres nothing dumer then yard salein a 20k or 30k sled for a movie that your not getting payed for i guess iam not rich enuf to understand

iam not saying these guys are tossin 20k in the shlter for nothing so i guess its all for the love of sledin

iam a professional flat land rider dont try this at home
 
So Maybe we should start pointing out that on the "Skiing, Snowboarding" films they show multiple riders coming down steep powder terrain and carving huge turns. They should be chastised as well because all of the "Professionals" Know better and that this is not safe. I say again I dont blame the Pencil for spelling mistakes because I am the one using it! If you ride in areas that can slide then it is up to YOU and only YOU to decide if you want to ride. If YOU choose to ride and CHOOSE to do stupid things (EVEN if you saw it on a movie) then that is your CHOICE!!!!!! You cant start saying it was because I watched so and so do it on a movie and it looked fun. Period!!
 
When you head out to the mountains, you are responsible for you and and any training you choose to take. Start copying stunts in videos and you will either learn the hard way or hopefully someone lets you know what you're doing wrong and the possible consequences. If you take any avy training (online or classroom) you'll find out quickly that more than one sled on a hill is wrong. Hopefully everyone has enough fear of avys that they take some time to check out the information that's easily available.

I do think that the videos could show a bit more of the consequences when things go wrong. Whether it's cost of sled repairs or hospital bills and recovery time. If they shows riders always nailing their stunts, some people think that it's just that much easier.

Bottom line - you can hurt yourself in the parking lot. Think about what you're doing or about to do.
I don't believe video games or movies make people violent either or that sled videos promote dangerous riding. Boondocking is cool but to see someone pull off a huge drop is just amazing.
 
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I guess your right, now that I think of it.......


I look forward to the next series of TS films.

Maybe this next year you not only include multiple riders going up the hill at once, but maybe you could throw in a few scenes of:

1. 5-10 people sitting at the bottom of a hill watching (That would be great!!)
2. How about a few scenes of riders traversing a wind loaded slope, with a group watching at the bottom of the hill (Even better!!). Capture on film a slide starting and coming down the hill and engulfing the people ( wow, I would buy that!!)
3. And don't forget to include a scene of someone being stuck half way up a hill and his buddies all coming up to help him out (Fantastic!!)


Oh, I forgot, those are things that we should not do when riding in the mountains, but don't you dare deny me those scenes of multiple riders going up at once!! Otherwise next year I will not buy the "next in the series"!!
Maybe you should just make an instructional video and try selling that.

Might as well sue Mcdonalds for making you fat while you're at it!
I do think that the videos could show a bit more of the consequences when things go wrong. Whether it's cost of sled repairs or hospital bills and recovery time. If they shows riders always nailing their stunts, some people think that it's just that much easier.
I can say that in all of the TS videos that I've seen there has been a segment of good length that shows a bunch of spills and accidents from the riding season. Also, during this segment there is always someone talking about how dangerous riding can be and how important it is to stay safe. Not a personal shot at you just speaking from experience.
 
I agree that these films are for entertainment. Do people watch them and learn from them? Sure they do, heck how countersteering works never clicked in my head till I saw some powder segments in Alticity. Should we blame the movies for creating bad habits nope. Would it be cool to have a 20 min dvd come with a few of these vids that go over some of the do's and don't of mountain riding? Sure would, alot of my hunting vids have a bonus disk that covers calling tecniques and decoy stratageis to help me be better. Why not do it for sledding?
Just my .02
 
i understand that but how many more people are influenced with what they see rather than what they read?

i'm not saying they didn't give ample warning with their text, but seeing is another thing. How many people actually push pause just to read their warnings? :confused:

I do EVERY time. Im 13 and im going to work my way up gradually in climbs and sleds. No get some souped up sled at a young age and just go get stuck in the middle of an avalanche zone.
 
I am just wondering if this is the same mentality that says that gun manufacturers kill innocent people. That the tabacco company's are to blame for lung cancer.. etc etc etc.. I just wish that more people would take responsibility for themselves and quit blaming other people for there own ignorance or incompitence. JC people educate yourselves on MTN riding and avalanche conditions, go to avy classes, take the needed equipment into the mtns and learn to use your equipment. Take care of yourself first and your buddies second and take responsibility for yourself. The TS guys are not to blame for some idiot trying to be like them when they have no business even trying 1/10 of what the guys in the movies are doing.

It all comes down to the Miner's, if we could stop the miners from mining materials that can be used to make dangerous things like guns, bullets, knives, snowmobiles, cars, bikes, etc... the world would be a much safer place.:D
 
Pretty much everything you see in them movies ARE dangerous,period!!
You take someone with little knowledge of what actually it takes to do the climbs,jumps and drops out to try then very bad things will happen.
Mountain riding is dangerous and climbing carries large consequences!!
So if you don't understand that about backcounty riding, i.e. no trails then please stay out and off the hills.


WARNING: MOUNTAIN RIDING IS DANGEROUS ESPECIALLY HILLCLIMBING!!!!

The movie guys imo do the things they do for the benifit of the other mtn. guys as others truly don't understand what they are really seeing.
They been doing that kind of stuff for years without the cameras around and I don't want a big blinking subtitled warning across the screen every time they do something.

When you sit on something, out in the open that goes 80+mph what more of a warning does someone with common sense need?
When you go into the mountains you should have atleast 1 avalanche course under your belt.
 
I remember the thread a few years back about what qualified someone to be a "professioinal" rider. There are very few professional sledders in this world. Very few.

"SPONSORED" sledders are different, right?
 
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