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The Brake stop ride, What is the real issue

I still think it's supply issues. Ford won't take any orders on F450s. I doubt that's because they don't feel like selling any...

I responded to your post about what you said about Polaris and you mention an F450?

I get that there are still supply chain issues, but Polaris's main issues seem rooted elsewhere.
 
I responded to your post about what you said about Polaris and you mention an F450?

I get that there are still supply chain issues, but Polaris's main issues seem rooted elsewhere.
You do know they never did stopped building sleds. The stop ride wasn't a stop manufacturing. They might have lost a couple weeks of shipping but we also still have the logistics issue of there not being enough transportation available to accommodate their shipping.
 
You do know they never did stopped building sleds. The stop ride wasn't a stop manufacturing. They might have lost a couple weeks of shipping but we also still have the logistics issue of there not being enough transportation available to accommodate their shipping.
True point. I forgot about that.
 
Well if you aren't willing to snow check a sled, you aren't going to get a new one. So yes I'm still going to snowcheck next year. The dumb people are who sold their sleds before they got their new ones.
Not in my area, dealers had lots of 22 and 23's in September. They even had a dealer stock 9r in October they still have a boost for sale ( well kind of since they can't sell it because of the brake joke). It will be the same next year there will be a bunch of backed out snowchecks and dealer stock inventory by April.
 
What you referred me to is posts by other people, including you doubting that Black Friday sales figures were good.

Here is an excerpt from an article on the Thanksgiving holiday sales figures. The sales were very strong and up over last year:

Amid great speculation this year about consumer spending, U.S. online merchants saw strong sales during the traditional start to the holiday shopping season. Brick-and-mortar stores experienced sales increases, too, although more modest.

American consumers spent a record $5.3 billion online on Thanksgiving day according to Adobe Analytics, up 3% over last year and spurred by the trend of closed physical stores on that day. Merchants appealed to shoppers with big discounts on toys and electronics. Mobile shopping drove 55% of online sales, an 8.3% year-over-year increase.


Black Friday

Adobe Analytics reported a record $9.12 billion in online revenue for Black Friday, an increase of 2.3% over 2021. Analysts’ fears that consumers would curb their spending proved unfounded. Electronics sold well, with Apple Watches and Airpods being popular along with smart speakers and televisions. Toys were a robust category — up 285% over last year, with Fortnite, Roblox, Bluey, Funko Pop!, and Disney Encanto leading the way.

Shopify, the ecommerce platform of many direct-to-consumer startups, reported that its merchants generated $3.4 billion in revenue on Black Friday, a 21% increase year-over-year.

Mastercard SpendingPulse reported that U.S. in-store sales on Friday rose 12% from last year, while ecommerce sales increased 14%.


Cyber Monday

Adobe Analytics stated U.S. Cyber Monday online sales reached $11.3 billion, the most ever for that day and 5.8% higher than Cyber Monday 2021 and 25% more than this year’s Black Friday online sales. This makes Cyber Monday the biggest online sales day in 2022.
Sales, not manufacturing and production. Like saying peach cobbler sales are up, where's the problem? people are buying them more than they ever have. Meanwhile back at the orchard.....The trees, the labor issues, the transportation, chemicals cost.... You just have not seen how that is all struggling at the production because the demand and enough product is still there (somewhat)...for now.
 
Not in my area, dealers had lots of 22 and 23's in September. They even had a dealer stock 9r in October they still have a boost for sale ( well kind of since they can't sell it because of the brake joke). It will be the same next year there will be a bunch of backed out snowchecks and dealer stock inventory by April.
We finally got snow here. My dealers 22 floor inventory was delivered in the middle of summer that was due last year. Now that it snowed they are like snowblowers after the first heavy snow, virtually everything has a deposit on them until the stop sell is lifted and guys can walk away with them. Backed out 23's there has been a list they call and they are already claimed by people that wanted on a list "In case someone backed out.."

Maybe I'm jaded but I remember the early 90's I had to buy and sell used sleds trading up to have a sled worthy that the dealer was interested in trading for to order a new sled and after that you virtually were paid to come in and trade for a new model the next year. 94 ZR580 to a 95 ZR580 cost me $200 but I got $400 cat cash, the 95 ZR580 for 96 ZRT 600 was $600 but kicked back and another $400 in cat cash. If you didn't have a trade the dealer was not ordering one for you because they were limited as to how many they could get so they needed used to sell and trade also. After 97-98 that all changed as they started manufacturing in higher quantities and shoving floor units on dealers so anyone could walk in and buy one with no trade and the next year they gave you half of what you paid for it. Seeing what guys are paying for year old sleds vs new, the lack of dealer floor models to order this year and increasing supply chain issues for manufacturing/Production. Even look at the used market with guys digging stuff out of their shelter belt from the mid 90's and posting up for over $1k that was just a hundred or two just a couple years ago. I think well see a return to that old market for awhile at least.
 
My buddy's 2017 wore out the outboard pad and the inboard was fine. The brake rotor dished to the point the speed sensor was acting flaky. It must have been something similar to what TRS had going on. He doesn't ride the brakes.
 
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Assuming this will cut power when on the brakes.

What is difference between the 22-23’s vs the last 10 years of RMK’s that don’t need to cut power if on the brakes?
 
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