Summit 800 Rev or M7?

[Tylerstc]

I am looking to upgrade my snowmobile and am looking at a budget of around $3500-$4000. I like to do a little trails, but have gotten into powder more as well as some climbing, so those are the most important criteria.

I have narrowed it down to getting a Summit Rev 800 with a 151" track, or an M7 with 153" track. How do these compare, and which one would suit me better? I assume the M7 is lighter but by how much? I would think the REV is faster but my buddy just got an M7 and it is a pretty strong runner. It does seem to lack on the low end a little bit though.

Either way I'm guessing I can't go wrong...are there any other good sleds in that price range?

Thanks,
Tyler

 

[Frewsky]

Buy the cat easier to maneuver. you wont regret buying a cat they run strong and are reliable

 

[ridealaska]

http://snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=181531

This thread asks the exact same question. but its talking about a bigger guys so maybe if your a smaller guy it might not help that much. your right the low end on the m7 is kind of lacking and i really like the 800 REV's power. Also with the 16 inch wide track the rev has a lot more total track area than the m7

 

[jpxp154]

go with the rev what years were you lookin at, not sure on priceing its been awhile. the rev has better power than the m7, better floation in the deep 16inch vs 15inch that does make a difference dont let people tell you different im not sure on the weight but power to weight the rev will outperform the m7. the rev is easy to drive and handle. its perfect for the alround rider. but compare yourself thats just what i seen and been around few years back. bothare good sleds and reliable for the price your talking about. but if you can do a test ride, right there well tell you what you whant to buy have fun shoping: before you buy check maintance records and look at them top to bottom. there always a reason its for sale

 

[Tylerstc]

Thanks for the responses guys. I'm 5'10" about 185 so I'm not a big guy. My friends brother has an 07'? rev so maybe I'll try and ride that if I go riding with him.

I'm looking at 04's and 05's due to price. Are there any big difference between those years? And how much horsepower did those put out, because I know the cat makes 140. Are they responsive to slight mods (pipe, can, etc?) I sure would like having reverse!

Thanks,
Tyler

 

[snowmanx]

I think the M chassis are a great chassis, and I like them better the the older REV chassis, but, I think you'll find the M7 lacks the grunt of the Rev8.

REV will climb better and go down the trails incredibly better, the m7 chassis is easier to through around, but the REV is just as manuverable IMO, just takes a bit more work.

I'd go for the REV.

 

[keeton]

M7

I actually own both of the sleds. I love them both but my M7 is my main ride. Its alot easier to throw around. My rev has way better low end power, but M7's top end makes up for it. Everytime I ride my rev though I end up being worn out by mid day. Go with the M7 if you like powder and hill climbing.

 

[ridealaska]

Thanks for the responses guys. I'm 5'10" about 185 so I'm not a big guy. My friends brother has an 07'? rev so maybe I'll try and ride that if I go riding with him.

I'm looking at 04's and 05's due to price. Are there any big difference between those years? And how much horsepower did those put out, because I know the cat makes 140. Are they responsive to slight mods (pipe, can, etc?) I sure would like having reverse!

Thanks,
Tyler

i don't know about the '04 but i know my '05 800 makes a little over 140 hp probably somewhere around 143. so the hp numbers are in the same ballpark. Let me tell you one thing though. The REV's are hard to get used to at first because the extreme rider forward position. But once you get used to it you will love it!

 

[summ8rmk]

First off this is my opinion of these 2 sleds. I'm just trying to share my experience ive had with both.
In 06 ski-doo claimed 138 hp, Cat claimed 140 and about 20 lbs? lighter.

Back in 2006, my stock (except for dynoprt can)06 Rev 800 151 against my sisters stock 06 M7 153, me riding both. Rev way more bottom end grunt i mean waaaay more. top speed my Rev would do 96 mph easy. climbing hills Rev would almost always leave the highmark but not by much. racing down the trail Rev again faster, more stable and waaay more comfortable. wheelies, talk about flip over backward wheelies on the rev. In 2+ feet of snow they handle similar climbing but down hill the rev liked to find the shortest way down even if its not the way you want to go, it takes alot more work to control than the M. i could side hill great on the Rev as long as there was over a foot of powder snow and i kept on the throttle, if i let off the throttle the sled would shoot down the hill. The M7 you could side hill that thing on dirt and stop on the hillside and take off again. If you want to wheelie the M7 you better get a good 30 ft run at something like a stump (haha) or slap on a turbo. on the trail the M7 was a worse ride than my 2000 summit 700. no reverse on the M7. Now the M7 and my 2000 summit 700 are very comparable sleds other than on the hills the M7 had way more power but it didnt feel like it. it deffinetly out climbed the old summit 700 but the summit had more bottom end and felt quicker. I loved the M7 out in the deep but man was it ruff on the trail. it all depends on what kind of riding you like to do the most.

I now ride an 09 M8, it rides alot nicer on the trail than the old M7(still not as good as the Rev), it has reverse, and bottom end like the Rev but handles like the M7 on hills and in the trees. I love it!

 

[YMEOFCR]

Im 6'5" 210 lbs I ride a M7 162 I was getting a bunch of crap about the m7 when I bought it from my friends that have Rev 8 151s and 200lbs, ya its got better snap on bottom end but in the fresh deep bottomless fluff I was making climbs and and braking trail that they couldnt do, at the end of the day nobody was giving me any more crap about my smaller under powered 700, its fun to beating up on sled with more cc, rev8s seem to take it the hardest, both are lots of fun its just fun to beat up on a bigger sled.

 

[knee deep in it]

I have an 07 Rev 800 and 2 06 IQ 600. I strongly prefer the IQ chasis and never ride the rev. I have a few friends who strongly prefer the Rev and a couple who strongly prefer the IQ.

If I was you, I would try to ride them both before putting your money down.

 

[OuraySledder]

I personally think this is a no-brainer. Take a look at the Rev boards and classifieds. How much talk do see about broken nuns and rebuilt engines? I see a whole lot more problems with Ski-doos in general than Cats. You don't want to spend $4k on a sled only to have to build the motor or replace a major front end part. I also find the rev boards to be way to flimsy for me. On the cat the engine is very reliable. The ride is easily helped with a bracket for the front track shock. Most guys regret selling thier M7's, I dont see anyone calling it a bad choice. It is going to be my choice this year too. I dont want an old chassis, cant trust an 800 Edge motor to not break a crank, cant trust a Ski-Doo not to break.

 

[columbus]

M7 NO QUESTION!!! The motor in an M7 will outlast a rev 800 many times over. When I bought my 06 M7 162 new most of my buddies got REVs and I took a bit of s^%$ for buying "the wrong sled". They all shut right up after the first hill. I sold it with nearly 8000 miles on it with hardly any issues. Probably should have kept it... I got new rings and crank bearings under warrenty at 6k miles because they had to split the cases to replace a leaky crank seal. The thing never blew. My buddy has the same sled, over 8k miles, no rebuild, still running strong. I am trying to convince him to at least do rings this year, we will see. A REV with this many miles would be on its 3rd motor, and anyone who has ridden here in Pemberton knows there aren't easy miles around here...Ever wonder why most revs for sale say "new motor"??

 

[rmk 700]

my dad has a rev and everyone said that they will blow up,board problems etc. my dads 07 has never had a problem and you normally do not spend that much on a rev. get the rev the throttle response is incredible and the chassis is awsome. i promise you that you will love the rev.

 

[Turtlehead]

 

[Ryan-41]

Get the M7..You pull the rope and you ride..You can always do some different clutching to get the pull of the bottom end!!

 

[IDAHO HOT SHOT]

Now that is funny right there.

 

[IDAHO HOT SHOT]

On a moer serious note, my buddy had an 04 Rev 800 159(Dyno Port single pipe). He kicked the $hit out of my 02 Edge 800. And then when I got my new 07 M8(SW single pipe). He kicked the $hit out of me some more. NUFF SED

 

[Tylerstc]

Haha thanks for the input guys, and sorry I'm not trying to start a flame war! I found a pretty good deal on a 2005 Ski Doo Highmark 1000 with a 151" track. I hear those motors are more reliable than the 800's. Is it the same chassis with just a bigger motor? Those are probably pretty quick..

 

[summ8rmk]

the 800 is in the REV platform, the 1000 is in the RT platform
Its bigger/wider than the REV.