2023 Summit X Expert Observations After First Day Home

[caper11]

The G4 turbo was way harder on gas than a NA. I expect the G5 turbo to be even harder on fuel.

 

[Turbo Thompson]

Another observation here with coolant flow in the tunnel. Will this new pattern cool quicker because it has less turns?
Pic 1 g4 165
Pic 2 g5 165

 

[NHRoadking]

Another observation here with coolant flow in the tunnel. Will this new pattern cool quicker because it has less turns?
Pic 1 g4 165
Pic 2 g5 165
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You can really see the difference in the new track too.

 

[Answ3r]

I rode a 165 saturday and purposly put myself in a ugly steep spot and just too much wheelie for my style, man I sure wish they offered a lock out for the rear shock from the bars for them ugly spots!!

Just swap out to stiffer rear torsion springs. Make a way better difference that playing with the rear shocks. There are several one availables.

This is an old chart, but you can choose the rate you want, go down all the way:

https://www.dootalk.com/attachments/2018-spring-chart-compressed-pdf.1674674/

 

[Frankthetank79]

Another observation here with coolant flow in the tunnel. Will this new pattern cool quicker because it has less turns?
Pic 1 g4 165
Pic 2 g5 165
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I would think the cooling would be more efficient with less turns. How much more efficient? I have no idea. Hopefully it helps on those icy trail days


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[jcjc1]

the more turns then the more surface area to shed heat so i'm curious to see how well they cool plus the amount of coolant has decreased from the G4's.

 

[caper11]

Looking at both those coolers, I would think the G4 has the larger cooling capacity and provides better cooling. Heat exchangers are contact based.

 

[jcjc1]

I think it was the technical vid that brp released where they mentioned the smaller coolant volume. the new tunnel also has thinner metal.

 

[butthead]

how to do a wheelie vid
just do the oppisite so your not wheeling, loosen front ski spring. rear ski shock make harder shock setting should slow down the wheelie video
good luckanother
loosen front skid shock spring and clickers.
adj rear shock clickers stiffer

 

[Daner1978]

I rode a 165 saturday and purposly put myself in a ugly steep spot and just too much wheelie for my style, man I sure wish they offered a lock out for the rear shock from the bars for them ugly spots!!

They do it’s called the IQS by Fox

 

[NHRoadking]

I'm impressed with the 2023 Expert's running boards. They do a great job of not holding snow.

 

[Driver]

I'm impressed with the 2023 Expert's running boards. They do a great job of not holding snow.

Agree. A lot less snow build up on G5.

 

[chrlitto]

You're wrong.

For 2023, per page 179 in the owner's manual, it's in the 4/6 setting, not 1/5 from the factory. Also, there's no way the adjustable limiter could move from 1 to 5 given its mechanical limitations.

I checked mine (2023 Summit Expert) and sure enough it is set at the 4/6 setting from the factory.

From the owner's manual:

Quick Adjust Stopper Strap System
On models equipped with an adjustable stopper strap, the lever posi- tion can be changed at any time. The crank mechanism will switch po- sition when tension on strap is released, i. e. when front portion of suspension is slightly compressed.
PRECISION+ to AGILE
From factory, the adjustable stopper strap is set in the way where the "AGILE" position = setting #4 on regular stopper strap. The "PRECI- SION+" position = setting #6 on the regular stopper strap.
The adjustable stopper strap length setting can be adjust by changing the bolts to the long position holes. Refer to the following illustration. Then, the "AGILE" position will = setting #2 and the "PRECISION+" position = setting #4.

In fact, it is set in the 1/5 position from the factory.

Furthermore, you mentioned that the adjustable limiter could not move from 1 to 5 due to its mechanical limitations, but that is incorrect?. The lever position can be changed at any time by releasing the tension on the strap and allowing the crank mechanism to switch positions.?

 

[NHRoadking]

In fact, it is set in the 1/5 position from the factory.

Furthermore, you mentioned that the adjustable limiter could not move from 1 to 5 due to its mechanical limitations, but that is incorrect?. The lever position can be changed at any time by releasing the tension on the strap and allowing the crank mechanism to switch positions.?

Sorry, I disagree.

Three new Summits and all were on 4/6 as stated by Doo in its owners manual.

I never said you could not adjust it. What I said is that you cannot have it set on 1/5 because the mechanism will not allow that much of a range. Tried it.

 

[Daner1978]

I rode a 165 saturday and purposly put myself in a ugly steep spot and just too much wheelie for my style, man I sure wish they offered a lock out for the rear shock from the bars for them ugly spots!!

They do….it’s called FOX IQS!?

 

[Daner1978]

Just swap out to stiffer rear torsion springs. Make a way better difference that playing with the rear shocks. There are several one availables.

This is an old chart, but you can choose the rate you want, go down all the way:

https://www.dootalk.com/attachments/2018-spring-chart-compressed-pdf.1674674/

How about get rid of the torsion springs all together. I put the Tom’s torsion spring delete on my 2022 Freeride 154” w/ Fox QS3 Evols! The BEST mod you can do to a Skidoo Summit…by far, hands down! Try it….you will never ride another Skidoo with those stupid outdated torsion springs!

 

[Driver]

How about get rid of the torsion springs all together. I put the Tom’s torsion spring delete on my 2022 Freeride 154” w/ Fox QS3 Evols! The BEST mod you can do to a Skidoo Summit…by far, hands down! Try it….you will never ride another Skidoo with those stupid outdated torsion springs!

All the race sleds with latest tech have torsion springs. How is this possible?!

 

[caper11]

All the race sleds with latest tech have torsion springs. How is this possible?!

Because some just don’t know, A good shock tuner can make the factory KYB’s superior to the aftermarket name brands.

 

[Daner1978]

All the race sleds with latest tech have torsion springs. How is this possible?!

Exactly….race sleds. I’m talking Mountain sleds! If you don’t believe me….google Tom’s emotion delete kit.

Because some just don’t know, A good shock tuner can make the factory KYB’s superior to the aftermarket name brands.

That’s some funny **** dude! You go ahead and keep thinking that

 

[caper11]

Exactly….race sleds. I’m talking Mountain sleds! If you don’t believe me….google Tom’s emotion delete kit.

That’s some funny **** dude! You go ahead and keep thinking that

Not even interested, I had a similar setup in my 09 mod. Never again.
There is Way more adjustment in a torsion spring suspension.
I’ve been having my KYB suspension redone by the guy who sets up the doo race sleds since 2016, very cool technology.


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