Probably true, I do tend to think people mean what they say, even on forums. Sorry for killing the mood, entertain away.
Socialism 101
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Probably true, I do tend to think people mean what they say, even on forums. Sorry for killing the mood, entertain away.
I still think what you wrote was good but I don't want Ruffy to stop with his outrageous thoughts... it keeps me from posting gay sh!t about Graveler...
My debate skills, or lack thereof, have been honed thru posts of bantering back and forth intermingled with facts and here say. After all, this is the Fouled Plug section of a Snowmobile forum. 
nah, it is better to speak your thoughts and learn from the thoughts of others, then remain foolishly silent due to others thoughts of you.
I like my version better... big surprise right?
My debate skills, or lack thereof, have been honed thru posts of bantering back and forth intermingled with facts and here say. After all, this is the Fouled Plug section of a Snowmobile forum.
Forgive me for thinking that that doesn't preclude the idea of having a meaningful conversation on mutually interesting topics.
They do... some are here only for personal entertainment and to feel good about themselves because they think they are better then others, some are here because they like debating / talking, some are here because they are lost, and some are here because they have no one else to discuss these topics with and are curious about others beliefs and the reason for them.
I mean everything I say.... or at least try to. Even though I argue / discuss from many different view points / perspectives. Just an fyi...
I'd have to agree with you here.. Alot of these folks look for any reason to cut a person down due to their inadequacies.. i'm sure the'll never open their bag of tricks and give others something to feed on either.. it's all in how arrogant a person is, i tend to say dumb sh*t all the time, but like you said, you learn from others thoughts and opinions, not their judgements
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thomps33
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Mountain-powder-slut,I believe you failed to coherently read my statement thoroughly. Maybe if you were able to remain calm and think objectively you would get my point. I wasn’t putting words in your mouth; I was interpreting your words. Hence, my comment about your words being misleading, be more precise.
Laws and rules are the foundation of suppression. Unfortunately we live in a cruel and unforgiving world. Laws are required for a free society to remain within accepted social norms. The founding fathers made the constitution as a guideline to follow. The parallels between the conditions and factors that existed in the past to those that exist today are still present. However, our ability to help each other as a society has changed dramatically. The key is finding the right balance. This is where the debate begins and political parties, ideologies, and personal agendas get thrown in the mix.
Political perspectives require people to sacrifice personal interests, economic or otherwise, for the sake of other people's interests or rights. People assent to such obligations not because they "work" for their personal interests – or not only for that reason – but because they believe it's morally beneficial or required.
Right now the “pendulum” I was referring to is on the “left” side and will continue doing so until Obama leaves office as he thinks the constitution is just a piece of paper. As I said before, some of us don't/won't like the direction but it can only happen IAW the "Will of the People". When enough of us don't like the direction, it will change.
I wouldn’t call our President and representatives evil as they are just doing what the majority elected them to do. But I can’t wait until the “pendulum” starts moving right again!!
I agree with you that socialism and communism are suppressive and downright evil. And thanks for protecting this country!!!!
Laws and rules are the foundation of suppression. Unfortunately we live in a cruel and unforgiving world. Laws are required for a free society to remain within accepted social norms. The founding fathers made the constitution as a guideline to follow. The parallels between the conditions and factors that existed in the past to those that exist today are still present. However, our ability to help each other as a society has changed dramatically. The key is finding the right balance. This is where the debate begins and political parties, ideologies, and personal agendas get thrown in the mix.
Political perspectives require people to sacrifice personal interests, economic or otherwise, for the sake of other people's interests or rights. People assent to such obligations not because they "work" for their personal interests – or not only for that reason – but because they believe it's morally beneficial or required.
Right now the “pendulum” I was referring to is on the “left” side and will continue doing so until Obama leaves office as he thinks the constitution is just a piece of paper
. As I said before, some of us don't/won't like the direction but it can only happen IAW the "Will of the People". When enough of us don't like the direction, it will change.I wouldn’t call our President and representatives evil as they are just doing what the majority elected them to do. But I can’t wait until the “pendulum” starts moving right again!!
I agree with you that socialism and communism are suppressive and downright evil. And thanks for protecting this country!!!!
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Ollie
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I also never said I didn't hate the mere thought of a socialistic society or of a communist state.
My whole point is, was and will always be.
Socialism can not stand on it's own.
It kills self modivation. No amount of government control or forcing of issues will ever replace a highly self motivated individual. I.e. Bill Gates.
As for people viewing it as evil.
I have been in the security and intelligence gig for over 25 years. I have see all kinds of reason to have an open hatred of communism and socialism. Socialism is always started by people looking to help those that are less fortunet at the expense of those that have excelled. As time goes on it becomes more and more repressive as those in power try to both stay in power and keep the people happy (or at least to afraid to act). Those in power have to find new and interesting way to show they are looking out for the little guy. The problem with this is pretty soon, there is no one left EXCEPT the little guy.
I read the reports of US ships having to medivac russian sailors after their own officers beat and or break their bones as an example to the others. I was witness to one such event off the coast of britian. The questioned his officer, the officer broke his arm and 4 ribs.
People in russia would wait years for a crappy little 2 room flat. They could wait for a lifetime to get a car.
Little history.
After the fall of Russia, western car makers rushed in to try and sell cars and take advantage of the fact everyone wanted cars. They took in the cheap cars so the russian people could afford em.
Chevy (and I think honda), showed up with more expensive cars and sold every single car they could get in. Everyone was amazed that the russian people could afford the more expensive cars. They asked if it was a status sybol or something. The answer they got was actually very amusing.
When asked "Why are you willing to pay so much more for one of those cars?"
Answer - "Those cars arn't white".
The peoples cars were ALL white. No option. You took white or didn't get a car. When russia callapsed everyone went in with cheap cars.............all white. Chevy and honda went in with Red, Blue, green, the whole rainbow.
When presented with a choice, the people decided on individuality.
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thomps33
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nah, it is better to speak your thoughts and learn from the thoughts of others, then remain foolishly silent due to others thoughts of you.
I like my version better... big surprise right?
I guess it could be called multitasking
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Snow Fox
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Son-of-a-***** you have almost 600 posts and you have only been a member of this site for less than a month. I read some of your posts and you b!tch, moan, and complain about being unemployed. If you put half the effort of looking for a job, than what you do posting on this site......I would think that you would have no problem finding a new job.
Hope this puts a flame under your a$$ so maybe you will put that effort into finding a new job, instead of posting mindless dribble on this site. Believe me, I know about posting mindless dribble. That is why I haven't posted on here for months. The internet can be very evil. IF the founding fathers would have had this technology.......the american revolution would have never happened.
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Snow Fox
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Nice to see that sh!t around here hasn't changed in the past few months. My wife showed me the errors in my ways and told me to stay off this site. In the last few months I have learned that she was right, this place is addictive and I still can't believe I wasted so much time here. I have gotten so much done since I left this addicting place. I am sure you all are real nice guys, but I must say.
GET A FAWKING LIFE!!!!!
just like I had to learn how to.
If you really want to make a difference put all this effort into contacting your elected officials, finding new jobs, loading ammo, etc. Posting the same sh!t on here day after day isn't going to change anything. It only gets you worked up and depressed. People like Ruffryder get enjoyment into getting people worked up because he is a lonely, pathetic little fool. The only thing he has going for him is, he can look forward to smoking that next doobie and jacking off to more p orn. Talking about pathetic, that rep thread is the most worthless piece of sh!t waste space I have ever seen. All that use that thread really need to take a good look at yourselves and see how pathetic your lives have become. It doesn't matter how many fawking rep points you have. Does it make you feel more important that you have more points than the next guy? Do you sleep better at night? Maybe get involved in groups that take real interpersonal communication skills. You will find it more rewarding.
I probably wont' post again, maybe in a few months when I have observed that the chit on here has only gotten deeper and nothing has changed. That or when some mormon needs more facts to show that the religion is only make believe. (I don't have anything personally against you, just want to show you the light). This place is evil and my coming back on here today is to hopefully show that life is better without fouled plug.
SNOW FOX
well there it is.. knew it would spew out of someones mindless sh*thole sooner or later.. Unfortunately the job market for my form of job experience has diminished to nearly nothing.. like I said, over 10,000 roughnecks, heavy equipment operators, and other third party oilfield company workers are all on a waiting list to get ahold of the very few jobs that are left.. If I didn't have my family rooted where we currently reside, I sure as hell would pack up and move across country to acquire a factory job or something else stupid making a bare wage. Unfortunately to do that, and pull my kids out of their schools, my wife away from her job, and out of the area of the small business i'm trying so hard to get moving, would be ignorant on my part.. no jobs within 500miles that haven't already applied for and been told "we'll call you when we hire again" I;ve done everything I can.. you show me a f*cking job and i'll take it.. I'm registered with all workforce services and everything else imaginable.. Its easy to talk all your sh*t when you still have a job, easy to cut down the little guys who did everything they could, and anything to mock someones efforts to accomplish something good for their family, then yes, i am a very bad person..
Fouled plug obviously gets your blood pressure up... if it bugs you that much, why would you come back? In your last sentence, you say "my coming back on here today is to hopefully show that life is better without fouled plug." If it really were better Fox, you wouldn't be back in here showing how pissed off you are.
you sir, are a complete @sshole.. you should find a different place to toss your self centered insults and take a good long look in the mirror before you criticize, read the fawking book before you judge the cover
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Snow Fox
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I am not pissed or angry, I had to be shown the errors in my ways and there is so much more to life that this place. I periodically check in, and it is the same chit whether it be tomorrow or two months from now. I only want you all to be aware of my experience, and maybe you all can be saved as well.
May Peace Be With You All.
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Snow Fox
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I have read the book, and it told me that you sir are a loser. Please take my advice and if you put as much effort into bettering yourself and looking for a job as what you spend on this site you will be successful and happy in no time.
Again, May Peace Be With You.
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