ridehard1212 and wheel line (or whatever your name is).... I am not a tough guy. however i hate drinking I watched my step dad die in front of my eyes because of drinking as well as one of my best friends.... so yea if I see a guy totally trashed putting myself or my friends/family at risk I have no problem losing his keys in the powder for him....... there is a time and a place for drinking in excess of a couple beers. Out on the trails isnt the place and I have no problem with stopping it any way I feel I want to stop it. If I get punched for it so be it. Chances are while the drunk guys are busy trying to stumble around and punch me I just saved someones elses life because those idiots were tryin to hit me back rather than plowing someone at 70mph.......