SHR880 Challenge - bring it.

[swrev]

So slim was having issues that day?

Not sure if was that day or not, maybe he can chime in. I really don't know all of the details or the exact time frame. One of my buddies was riding w/ him recently and said sled just wasn't running the way it had been in previous ventures and they took it in to hook up to the computer. Whatever they did apparently worked or got it better anyway.

Was hoping to catch up w/ Slim this last weekend. We played a little phone tag but it didn't work out to meet. He was riding out of IP and we were in West, but w/ my family being down there and the size of our group, trailering down wasn't going to work out for us.

 

[Bacon]

Just got back from Vegas and lake Mead... Pretty sure I am out for the summer.. We can pick up next winter... Oh and my boat is propped for surfing guys so sorry no racing for me... But my gf looks damn good in a bikini... So argue away... I'm done!!!!!

We need pics. Gf and boat.

 

[swrev]

We need pics. Gf and boat.

Only want to see the boat if GF is in it

 

[FEZ]

Any comments to this ?
Was posted on another forum.


Sounds like you are again having a great season, And yes I am always working on more out of our product, (872) Will be back on the

Superflow real soon, Trying some updates on the guys on the RMSHA circuit with great results also, Will be in Jackson Hole this

weekend for races and see on changes, Hey allrevsrule the new pistons were worth 2 horse alone and smoother running also!



The pro drivers on 872's posted 3 first places at the last race (RMSHA ciruit),



Glad to see that you guys did not put any effort into that bogus 880 challenge on snowest it did not work out that well for them,

Slim turned out twice on 2 runs half way up the designated climb because he was so far behind on his mighty 880!!!!

They searched out a customer at a restaurant riding with his daughter In alpine Wyoming , 872 customer was also much heavier

and still had heavy clutching from Washington state in 872 (low rpm) still didn't take much to send the shr 880 back home!



Dave Trygstad

So did TETONICE change his name to Dave Trygstad?

 

[mountainhigh]

bring it

so are there any 880s left anywhere to finish the winter?

 

[scratley]

All of Johns are still running...

 

[Mach-ster]

Must be an easy number to keep track of?

 

[BIG JOHN]

Any comments to this ?
Was posted on another forum.


Glad to see that you guys did not put any effort into that bogus 880 challenge on snowest it did not work out that well for them,

BJ- worked just fine for me...you??

Slim turned out twice on 2 runs half way up the designated climb because he was so far behind on his mighty 880!!!!

BJ- Since YOU weren't there...race 1, even start and the 880 pulling away...race 2, trading paint and both let off...race 3, win by 872 by a length (880 reeling him in from a bad hole shot)...slim offered a "deciding race" but was declined...they called it a draw, but from the one EVEN start it was obvious which one was stronger...

They searched out a customer at a restaurant riding with his daughter In alpine Wyoming , 872 customer was also much heavier

BJ- FALSE...slim ran into your guy on the hill and wasn't much heavier (both tall and lean fellows) PLUS a 30+ lb weight reduction from several LW parts in favor for the 872...I did see the star valley boys in the Bedford lot...with me waving them in to chat...with noses in the air they rode right by...nice

and still had heavy clutching from Washington state in 872 (low rpm) still didn't take much to send the shr 880 back home!

BJ- FALSE and are you kidding??? your guy DID change primary spring to a 160/380 and dropped pin weight for the WY. elevation and was turning 8100 rpm... he also lost to the 880 (on an even start)... I spent 30 min talking to him on the hill and slim a couple hours back at the hotels hot tub...super nice guy!


Dave Trygstad

This is what really happened....BJ

 

[BIG JOHN]

Hunting him down huh? Well truth is I talked to him at breakfast.. No one else.. I never did see him on the hill.. Slim never met the guy before they met on the hill. And I wasn't there, so not sure how that is considered hunting him down.. But that's cool! However you guys want to present it is fine... As long as it's in trygstad's favor all is well.. I did tell him that there were a few 880s riding Bedford that day.. That was it.. Never saw him again.. Somehow slm and him ran into each other on the hill.. I did not see either of them while I riding that day..

silly facts...clearly pointless with some...maybe getting out on the mountain and stop running your mouth you might learn something...just saying BJ

 

[BIG JOHN]

The 880 challenge never happened, correct? The only ones there were Scratley and madmini, both carbed. The other race--was that when Slim's sled was having electrical issues and had to go in and get reflashed?? Way to hang a victory on that one!! My buddies 872 has the red wire issue once in a while, I sure don't consider that a loss in his book when his sled won't run. His three in track wouldn't hook up last weekend in West, old man's 880 wouldn't hook up, and his 860 waxed everybody. Beat the crap out of my turbo 'til about half way up the hill also.

Man this is getting old, both engines are solid performers.

slims sled was just fine and ready to ride (he posted a picture of himself in the parking lot WAITING)...he did plug the sled in to verify all parameters are GOOD and did an update a month ago...hasn't skipped a beat all winter, infact run better now then ever...as for solid performers I agree...some others have the issue with a little competition BJ

 

[Bacon]

Must be an easy number to keep track of?

Are you sure your 52, or 12. I know your buddy buddy with Dave but WTH.

 

[mountainhigh]

silly facts...clearly pointless with some...maybe getting out on the mountain and stop running your mouth you might learn something...just saying BJ

you 880 boys need to change your panties,there startin to smell pissy.just sayin

 

[HOOTS]

Trying decide on a builder for next sled. After reading posts and between the lines. I'll go with Big John over Big Head. Dave you sure throw a lot of crap on the net, IMHO that is not the place to BS past or future customers , we're not all ignorant followers. Too bad it puts John in a position to feel like he has to respond to the BS, which it looks like a good attempt was made, but still more nonfactual BS was thrown.
May have a good motor but made my decision easy.

 

[Idaho Slim]

Sorry I have not answered the mail lately, been extremely busy and riding ....... ALOT. Some FACTS need to be stated;

I did race a guy on a DTry 872 etec 163, never met him b4 and he was riding where my ride was going on; we talked and he said ya lets run them. Good dude and he is a frequent member of the 4M and I know his call name, but chooses to be quiet and I will respect his wish. BJ pretty much laid it out what happened, the only witness was TIM, who was right there.

The 872 guy said he weighed 220, and had a 45 lb reduction lite weight hood, so that made us about even EXCEPT, I was carrying an extra 51 lbs on me over him (Pack, Gear box & 2 gas cans) And Bottom line, on the ONE good race we both had good starts, the 880 beat the 872 by 2 lengths pulling away. So anyone who reads between the lines knows which motor is stronger. I did NOT turn out twice, on race #2 we BOTH did to avoid crashing into each other. Race 3 I did it again, had to get offf the throttle and was reeling him in at the top but lost by a length. When I said lets go for the rubber match race, he said no "I am good with a draw". I let him ride mine up a chute later, and his comment was "The 880 pulls harder."

NO, I did not have electrical issues, was just checking for updates on BUDS, the SHR 880 has run FLAWLESS with now 1100 miles on it and not one motor issue....... let me repeat, NOT ONE ISSUE.

So in closing, those of you contemplating a Big Bore for your R or Etec motors should serious consider my words, and the words of the builders, some who make outlandish lies to try and make their product look better than it really is.

Hoots, you are making an wise choice.

If anyone would like to ride with me this year to see how the SHR 880 runs, feel free to pm me if you are in the area. We don't have much riding time left, but I will gladly try and make it if possible.

Regards, SLIM.

 

[tukernater]

Trying decide on a builder for next sled. After reading posts and between the lines. I'll go with Big John over Big Head. Dave you sure throw a lot of crap on the net, IMHO that is not the place to BS past or future customers , we're not all ignorant followers. Too bad it puts John in a position to feel like he has to respond to the BS, which it looks like a good attempt was made, but still more nonfactual BS was thrown.
May have a good motor but made my decision easy.

I Love How people say Dave slinging sh!t when he hasn't said sh!t on this BS post.I'm glad Dave's to busy for this sh!t it's kinda childish .

 

[tukernater]

Sorry I have not answered the mail lately, been extremely busy and riding ....... ALOT. Some FACTS need to be stated;

I did race a guy on a DTry 872 etec 163, never met him b4 and he was riding where my ride was going on; we talked and he said ya lets run them. Good dude and he is a frequent member of the 4M and I know his call name, but chooses to be quiet and I will respect his wish. BJ pretty much laid it out what happened, the only witness was TIM, who was right there.

The 872 guy said he weighed 220, and had a 45 lb reduction lite weight hood, so that made us about even EXCEPT, I was carrying an extra 51 lbs on me over him (Pack, Gear box & 2 gas cans) And Bottom line, on the ONE good race we both had good starts, the 880 beat the 872 by 2 lengths pulling away. So anyone who reads between the lines knows which motor is stronger. I did NOT turn out twice, on race #2 we BOTH did to avoid crashing into each other. Race 3 I did it again, had to get offf the throttle and was reeling him in at the top but lost by a length. When I said lets go for the rubber match race, he said no "I am good with a draw". I let him ride mine up a chute later, and his comment was "The 880 pulls harder."

NO, I did not have electrical issues, was just checking for updates on BUDS, the SHR 880 has run FLAWLESS with now 1100 miles on it and not one motor issue....... let me repeat, NOT ONE ISSUE.

So in closing, those of you contemplating a Big Bore for your R or Etec motors should serious consider my words, and the words of the builders, some who make outlandish lies to try and make their product look better than it really is.

Hoots, you are making an wise choice.

If anyone would like to ride with me this year to see how the SHR 880 runs, feel free to pm me if you are in the area. We don't have much riding time left, but I will gladly try and make it if possible.

Regards, SLIM.

First it was a draw,now you beat him I can't wait to hear next weeks story.

 

[rev_rider800]

I Love How people say Dave slinging sh!t when he hasn't said sh!t on this BS post.I'm glad Dave's to busy for this sh!t it's kinda childish .

Pfi572 copied and pasted something in post #334 there, genius that the great and all mighty dave trygstad signed off on claiming load of bs, so check yourself.

Funny how any time someone tried to line up a comparison like this and dave goes and contacts his cheer leaders and tells them not to partake in the "bogus 880 challenges" He did the same thing with scratley last year when he was planning to run his tms860...is dave fearful that he's going to loose?

The statements dave made in regards to the anonymous customer who ran against slim were completely false, as bj already put it and unlike dave, I was there from the minute slim bumped into the 872 and his daughter on the base of the hill and was in the pool
room that night when said customer did say after riding the 880 that it did pull harder.

As far as I'm concerned, if there are supposedly so many great running 872's out there and you're all having such great success with them, why is it so hard to get one on the hill for a real comparison?? You people comep with more excuses than a "stick in the mud" wife who wants to go straight to bed cuz she has a "headache"

In closing, grow up Dave...you're the only CHILD here in the sandbox, but you're not the only outfit in town and there are others who do amazing work, which shows, and SHR is one of them. I'm glad everyone here is happy with there builder/product/purchase but until one of you sh!t slingers is ready to man up ring what you bring, you look like the dorky kid on the playground running his mouth that his dad will beat you up. High voltage, mach, turke, you 3 come to mind...why don't you show us in a side by side comparison a slim suggested???? Does dave need more time in the lab to whip something up? I quite frankly could care less what a race trimmed sled does, I wanna see a TRAIL/MOUNTAIN sled run in a side by side comparison. Until you're willing to put up, you don't have much you can say.

 

[swrev]

Good to hear about your sled Slim. Just to make clear, I wasn't trying to imply you were having issues w/ the big bore. I've had friends w/ Pro's have electrical issues w/ their turbos, never once ended up being from the sleds modifications. Anyway, thanks for clearing up the "race" you had w/ the a 872.

If anyone is interested, their should be quite a few sleds of various states of tune in Lincoln, MT on April 5th. Check out the sno-b-que in the MT section. It always allows for some good competition. Big enough hills to allow the four strokes to show who is definitely the power king and allow the big bores to show the turbo two strokes, if it is not set up properly, they've wasted a lot of money. Depending on snow depth, the 3" tracks can really shine also. Makes for a good time seeing what works.

 

[caper11]

Ok I'm curious on some setups. Are both sleds pump gas kits with the same compression ratio?. Clutching will play into a sled pulling harder than another. IMO the recommended team setup is not a good one for the 872. How do I know this? my brother has a 872 and played with the clutching all winter to get it to where he was happy with it, and he was running the recommended team setup that came with the kit, not Dave's setup.


What hood did the 872 have to make a stock one weigh 45lb?


This challenge still proves nothing!! Like I said before two many different variables to show which engine is the best, and I was right in saying this before by continuing to pay attention to this thread and seeing the bantering to continue.

At the end of the day I could care less about the smack talk, I want a product to work good and most importantly be reliable!!! Both engines are a great choice and there is nothing wrong with competition.

It would be nice to throw the 880 in my sled and compare it to my brothers, we both have beltdrives and the same gearing, our sleds are setup the exact same other than the engine and clutching.

Now that his 872 is clutched right he's right there with low boost turbos.






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[DenverR1]

I know this will never happen but to have a true comparison why not have Dave and Big John meet up themselves? I would imagine each of them has enough sleds at their disposal to set them up to agreed parameters, such as length, lug height, year, etc. Then just bring your best. Having so many people with so many different mods brings way too many variables to the table to have an accurate comparison. That is, unless you get one brand that just consistently beats the other across the board, and I don't see that happening.

As a buyer, I personally would not go with someone who is blatantly so arrogant. I have found in the past (I don't want to name any names but this builder has a name that is often given to a girl and on an arrogance scale rates at, hehmmm... 860) that arrogant people are much harder to deal with after the sale. I don't know Big John at all but from what I've seen he is very helpful to others and wants to further the sport in general, not just toot his own horn.