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price to pay to ride in wyoming

You mean you don't support the Iowa trail system :face-icon-small-ton

I've got a college tuition wraped up in this sport, another $100 a year for 4 sleds, most of the drunks I ride with drop that at the bar on the first night because I am a tightass and I never buy.


Fixed it for ya:face-icon-small-coo
 
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More than doubling the price seems a bit drastic but $55 per year is pretty minor when you run the math on the cost of this sport. Gotta pay to play!
 
$55 seems a little outrageous. I will continue to pay the fee, but with the little amount of trails I ride and the conditions they are usually in leaves me with the feeling that I'm getting screwed.
 
Fixed it for ya:face-icon-small-coo


I'll save the $55 in one night drinking with newmy.:face-icon-small-ton


I don't think that is out of line as long as the money does help the trail system as well as helping to generate income to keep our back country open to snowmobiles. I think they should make everyone who uses the trail system buy a sticker, meaning the cross country skiers too.
 
$55 seems a little outrageous. I will continue to pay the fee, but with the little amount of trails I ride and the conditions they are usually in leaves me with the feeling that I'm getting screwed.

I don't think of it as a trail permit, just a permit to ride. Either way we all are going to pay the cost.
 
$55 seems a little outrageous. I will continue to pay the fee, but with the little amount of trails I ride and the conditions they are usually in leaves me with the feeling that I'm getting screwed.

I would not have any problem paying $55
 
Money is no object tilll it comes time to pay up for some peeps hauling u and ur stuff off the hill. Oh wait thats what drunken friends are for!!

Well well look who crawled out from under his rock. I'm glad your still upset that Cody couldn't shake us down for a grand a piece to recover the sleds. It's funny you never had had the balls to say something to me in person. :baby:
 
I pay $60 a year to register my snowmobile in Utah. I normally buy out of state permits in Colorado, Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming. So $25-$30 really has no bearing on if I ride, just irritates me that I have to give the government even more of my ever dwindling pay check.
 
I'd like to see what that amount would do for the actual improvement in grooming for a season before they mark things up to $55 or whatever is being proposed. Incremental increases over a few seasons would be better IMO, I think starting with a $10-15 increase and going up from there over a couple of seasons would be a better route.

I think you might lose a lot of the "well lets get the old sled out and head up for a weekend" local riders that ride up once or twice a year to take the kids out or get a Christmas tree. At that point they can drop the kids off at the ski area and go buy a tree.

All guys on here (myself included) would have no problem paying $55 per sticker, but if losing 2 local sleds for everyone of us that pays for one higher priced sticker, what is to be gained? The trails will be in the same shape. My point is: It will be interesting to see how the increased fees affect the number of sleds registered (snowfall probably has more to do with numbers registered than anything though).

Are they going to mark up the ATV tags too, or just the sled stickers?
 
I'd like to see what that amount would do for the actual improvement in grooming for a season before they mark things up to $55 or whatever is being proposed. Incremental increases over a few seasons would be better IMO, I think starting with a $10-15 increase and going up from there over a couple of seasons would be a better route.

I think you might lose a lot of the "well lets get the old sled out and head up for a weekend" local riders that ride up once or twice a year to take the kids out or get a Christmas tree. At that point they can drop the kids off at the ski area and go buy a tree.

All guys on here (myself included) would have no problem paying $55 per sticker, but if losing 2 local sleds for everyone of us that pays for one higher priced sticker, what is to be gained? The trails will be in the same shape. My point is: It will be interesting to see how the increased fees affect the number of sleds registered (snowfall probably has more to do with numbers registered than anything though).

Are they going to mark up the ATV tags too, or just the sled stickers?


Exactly why we ask the question!

I think the ATV's will stay the same as they don't have the huge grooming expense to deal with.

There is a ton more to the story and that will come out in time. It is all being done with good intention, but it is going to hurt the pocket book in doing so and make some very unhappy people.

Like a lot have commented back to me, tag fees are less likely to keep them from coming than the price of fuel!

It is also true that without the trails presence on the Mountain it would be that much easier to close off the access.

None of it is set in stone and the earliest it will happen will be next year!
 
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The reason the trails are getting worse with marking and grooming is lack of funds. Higher fuel prices contribute mainly to that, the cost per mile is up nearly 66% over what it was in 2004. And now the grooming is 23% less than it was in 2004.

As for the money 100% + goes to snowmobiling. The number of tags purchased determines the amount of money we get from the state gas tax. Last season a permit which you paid 25$ for is actually worth 40$ once the tax is added and dealer fee is paid.

As for percentage break down: 68% goes to grooming, 4% administration, 23% Field operations, 4.8% Safety and Enforcement.

Is the law/policy that distributes the money based on percentage? If so, they will need to change so most of the increase goes to grooming and the other percentages will actually drop but the dollars should increase. In the midwest these raises are stepped in which I think doesn't turn off as many people as a large increase. I have IL, IA, WI, MI, and WY stickers on my sled. Small price to pay to keep sledding but if any push the $100 mark I will pass on that state. If you raise it more than $10 or $15 you will need to have enforcement or the locals will skip it.
 
The medicine bow nordic association gets $ from our trail fees to help fund the grooming of their ski trails at happy jack, dont trust any govt agency to spend our $ correctly.

A famiy of 3 or 4 that are on the fence and got to shell out another couple hundred for stickers may find other hobbies.
 
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