Patrol Plans Sobriety Checkpoints

[Anti-Hero]

How about we settling this once and for all, and all get drunk at the bar. When we get into accidents we can figure out which BAC should be the standard.

The sad thing is that drunk driving goes on all the time, everywhere..... but most don't say anything until something bad happens, and then it is "They knew better...."

There is a reason for MADD, because people die from drunk driving accidents all the time......, yet it is totally preventable.

I agree there is a reason for MADD. However think about this scenario: little bobby was out at 10pm playing hide and seek with his friends in the development, when the same time when Joe is driving home from work, Joe worked a 13 hours shift, he reached down to change his CD and hit 8 year old Bobby as he ran across the street in front of Joe. #2 same bit but Jon worked 13 hour shift and when to the local pub had to quick beers within 30 minutes. so who is wrong? Joe, Jon or Bobby? Or maybe think a bit deeper, 1 why is an 8 year old out at 10 pm, 2 playing in the street, 3 where are his parents, and what are they doing? So the fact of the matter is that his parents are crappy parents. When I was young I did not rule my parents as kids do today, and i had good parents. My parents took an active role in my life, they taught me not to play in the street, look both ways when crossing the street and never when i was 8 was my curfew close to 10. Parent are getting crappier and crappier, who is at fault I would say the parents. Bobby's mom was an admin at the DVM.
http://www.damm-madd.com/

 

[skidoorulz]

Unlike you I will answer a question. The first is a tragic accident By your description no laws were broken. The second is still an accident but by stopping off at a tavern and having a few beers if he was given a sobreity test and failed then it becomes a criminal act because a law was broken. NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION!!!!!!!

By the way the site you linked to is just more garbage just like you are spewing here. The first line cracks me up If this site is all to familiar to you? I would add that then you ought to stay home and drink and let the innocent people live another day.

 

[Mafesto]

The good Lord knows the exact date & time each & everyone of us will pass away.
It's called fate.
It would be quite arrogant to think that our actions can alter his plans for us.

Whether alcohol is involved in this death or not is a simple detail, nothing more.

 

[Anti-Hero]

Answer the question. Don't just sit there and give lawyer mumble jumble. I think I have finally figured you out. You are either someone who has received 1 or more DUI's in the past and have paid high priced lawyers to skirt and bend the laws to get your *** out of a jam instead of acting like a man and taking your punishment. Or you are one of the high priced scumbags I mentioned earlier and will do anything for a buck in cluding get people out of DUI's regardless of the laws. If you are the first then the next DUI you get do yourself and all others a huge favor take your punishment like a man and then take the money you would have paid the high priced scumbag and use it to treat your problem. If you are the second well there is no help for you. NOW ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO MORE CRAP !!!!!!!!

I just looked at this guys bio. Here is something real funny! His stated ocupation is Health and SAFETY. I almost choked when I read that one.

Yes that is correct health and safety, why do you think I base my entire arguement off of the importance of calibration? Why do you think I understand Barametic pressure, Boyle's law, Henry's law, the Ideal Gas pressure law and Molarity? And if you think science is crap, I am sorry. The rest of the real world follows the procedures that police don't have to, they make up $hit as they go along. And you call me out for skating around, i explained the science to you and instead of getting a book and a calculator out and trying the formula, you decide that barometric pressure has nothing to do with alcohol vapor. That is typical in the policing system make up $hit as you go along. Yeah you go find a lawyer that would like to play the barometic pressure game with me, good luck! lawyer, he know the legal system, not the science. So I tell you all these facts and all you can do is sling mud at me " I got you figured out". And no I would not take money to teach someone about the intoxyliar and how to beat it. If the system was correct there would not be these flaws, so instead of crying about science used, fix the corupt system.

Answer your question, ok i would go after what said, running a stop sign, failure to yeild, and reckless driving and and vehicular manslaghter. Think about it; what was the root cause this man being drunk or was the root cause of the accident the man running a stop sign?

And if i were to get a DUI no I would not sit there and take it in the AZZ, damn right i would do anything in my power to use the court systems to dismiss my charges, if you would just walk in and let them accuse you of whatever the hell they want, that is dumb. Oh so science is garbage, and let me guess the ideal gas pressure law is wrong.

 

[Mafesto]

Yes that is correct health and safety, why do you think I base my entire arguement off of the importance of calibration? Why do you think I understand Barametic pressure, Boyle's law, Henry's law, the Ideal Gas pressure law and Molarity? And if you think science is crap, I am sorry. The rest of the real world follows the procedures that police don't have to, they make up $hit as they go along. And you call me out for skating around, i explained the science to you and instead of getting a book and a calculator out and trying the formula, you decide that barometric pressure has nothing to do with alcohol vapor. That is typical in the policing system make up $hit as you go along. Yeah you go find a lawyer that would like to play the barometic pressure game with me, good luck! lawyer, he know the legal system, not the science. So I tell you all these facts and all you can do is sling mud at me " I got you figured out". And no I would not take money to teach someone about the intoxyliar and how to beat it. If the system was correct there would not be these flaws, so instead of crying about science used, fix the corupt system.

Answer your question, ok i would go after what said, running a stop sign, failure to yeild, and reckless driving and and vehicular manslaghter. Think about it; what was the root cause this man being drunk or was the root cause of the accident the man running a stop sign?

And if i were to get a DUI no I would not sit there and take it in the AZZ, damn right i would do anything in my power to use the court systems to dismiss my charges, if you would just walk in and let them accuse you of whatever the hell they want, that is dumb. Oh so science is garbage, and let me guess the ideal gas pressure law is wrong.

Yeah!!!
What he said!

 

[ruffryder]

Laws are here because people couldn't figure out correct behavior to begin with. Obviously enough people can't figure out the correct way to act with a vehicle and alcohol to warrant the laws. Some here are arguing that they are fine at the limit.... blah blah, tough crap. Everyone here is just glad that either your gut is so big or your tolerance is so high that you are not drunk yet at the legal BAC limit. What you need to do is stop drinking for a while to get your tolerance back down to where the rest of us are and rethink your opinion after you go to bar after work and down a couple of beers on an empty stomach. Welcome to reality.

Stories do not do very well in arguments, as shown here. Here is a short story....STFU!

The good Lord knows the exact date & time each & everyone of us will pass away.
It's called fate.
It would be quite arrogant to think that our actions can alter his plans for us.

Whether alcohol is involved in this death or not is a simple detail, nothing more.

There is a difference between fate and bad decision making.....

 

[Mafesto]

Everyone here is just glad that either your gut is so big or you liver is so shot that you are not drunk yet at the legal BAC limit. What you need to do is stop drinking for a while to get your tolerance back down to where the rest of us are QUOTE]

Actually most alcoholics become "drunk" quicker on a lower BAC.

 

[ruffryder]

Everyone here is just glad that either your gut is so big or you liver is so shot that you are not drunk yet at the legal BAC limit. What you need to do is stop drinking for a while to get your tolerance back down to where the rest of us are QUOTE]

Actually most alcoholics become "drunk" quicker on a lower BAC.

Fixed it, replace "liver is so shot" with "tolerance is so high" I wasn't really trying to limit the part B group to only alcoholics, all heavy/regular drinkers.

oh, and I believe technically you are right because of the damage to the liver, but there are tolerances that get built up to negate the effects of alcohol.

 

[Mafesto]

Reading through this, there are quite a few responses similar to.....
"It's the law"

I can't believe so many people are willing to let the lawmakers/enforcement have such absolute power over them.
If I don't agree with a law, you know what I do?
That's right I break it!!!!

If I wanna speed, I speed.
If I don't feel like wearing a seatbelt, nobody's business but mine.
If I wanna have a few cold ones & drive around, I will do it. It's so relaxing!
I'm not saying have 8 or 10 & drive, at that point you are infringing upon others safety, & that's selfish. But what I (& others are) trying to say is .08 is unrealistic & frankly unfair to those trying to operate a bar.

 

[xrated]

Reading through this, there are quite a few responses similar to.....
"It's the law"

I can't believe so many people are willing to let the lawmakers/enforcement have such absolute power over them.
If I don't agree with a law, you know what I do?
That's right I break it!!!!

If I wanna speed, I speed.
If I don't feel like wearing a seatbelt, nobody's business but mine.
If I wanna have a few cold ones & drive around, I will do it. It's so relaxing!
I'm not saying have 8 or 10 & drive, at that point you are infringing upon others safety, & that's selfish. But what I (& others are) trying to say is .08 is unrealistic & frankly unfair to those trying to operate a bar.

Never had a bar keep bi&ch to me about .08. Just had them say, robb you've drank to much I'm calling you a cab

 

[Snow Fox]

It seems that a few people posting on this thread need to be reminded that driving is a privilege and not a right. I would be willing to bet that a few have probably already had their licenses suspended for driving while under the influence of either an alcoholic beverage or a controlled substance.

Traffic laws are made for the good of society to attempt to keep innocent citizens as safe as possible from irresponsible drivers. If you do not agree with a law then you are in the minority, as it takes a majority in state or federal government to pass a law that pertains to traffic safety.

To sum up this post is rather simple, Don't Drink (or use a controlled substance) and Drive!!! If you get caught (all who drive under the influence eventually do get caught) then you will pay the price.

 

[Mafesto]

Why are you people arguing with me?

 

[skidoorulz]

Reading through this, there are quite a few responses similar to.....
"It's the law"

I can't believe so many people are willing to let the lawmakers/enforcement have such absolute power over them.
If I don't agree with a law, you know what I do?
That's right I break it!!!!

If I wanna speed, I speed.
If I don't feel like wearing a seatbelt, nobody's business but mine.
If I wanna have a few cold ones & drive around, I will do it. It's so relaxing!
I'm not saying have 8 or 10 & drive, at that point you are infringing upon others safety, & that's selfish. But what I (& others are) trying to say is .08 is unrealistic & frankly unfair to those trying to operate a bar.

I agree about all those you point out. I speed I don't always wear a seat belt and if I get caught doing it and get fined so be it I am MAN enough to know I was wrong and accept the consequences and do not go to court with some B.S. science project that says speeding is not a bad thing and it is all relative to air pressure and weather or not I was about to wet my pants and was just trying to get to a rest area. With that said I am sure some of you have seen me post with other arguments on this site. I am very passionate about subjects I beleive or do not beleive in. I have never resorted to name calling until now. I am done with this subject because quite frankly there is just no arguing with flat out STUPID. I do not give a crap about science supposedly proving this crap or that crap. Science has in the past been proven wrong and in the future will be proven wrong also. A law is a law and if you break a law their are consequences. If you do not like a law get it changed, I doubt that will happen with this law. If anything the limits are only going to get stricter (thank God) My brother in law who moved to Colarado onc told me that there are sure some weird liberal people in this state, I have met many nice people in Colorado but now I have finally run into one of those weird liberals he was talking about. So in closing I will qoute ruffryder "STFU"

 

[Fosgate]

I admit, I've booze cruised. What else are you to do with the time in my state when every road runs North and South or East and West. For petes sake, You could almost tie a rope to the steering wheel and a brick on the pedal for an autopilot they are so straight. Not to mention alot of times you are "In the Middle of BFE!" with not a car in sight for 20 miles. Gotta worry more about smoking a cow or antelope more than a car. And if we see one we don't hit the brakes not jsut because the animal may be more likely to come through the windsheild. But also because the freezer might be running a little low on meatsicles. (Honestly the Police Acadamy in Pierre teaches it's officers to not hit the brakes in the event of a deer strike.

Anyway, Mafesto, They'll be out in force this weekend and next month for sure. Keep an eye out for where they set the porta potties during the day. (hint, hint)

 

[Viper5]

The whole thing is B.S.! yes! drunk driver kill people yes! its bad! I would like to see A crack down on plain bad drivers who kill at least 10x as many people than drunks do! but I guess its OK to kill people if your just stupid !!

Bad drivers don't drink and drive too or do they drive better after drinking if you can't go without drinking when you have to drive .... maybe you have a problem IMO

 

[justadude]

ooooooooohhhhhh!! nice point!!!

Bad drivers don't drink and drive too or do they drive better after drinking if you can't go without drinking when you have to drive .... maybe you have a problem IMO

 

[Pro_Marinero]

It amazes me how many here are willing to relinquish basic freedoms for supposed safety.

"They, who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security."
- Benjamin Franklin

Why is this different than the police knocking on your door and strolling in to check everything. If you have nothing to hide, why should you worry?

If those of you who are willing to happily have your rights stripped away in the name of safety can't put two and two together here, nothing typed here will ever change your mind. Sad......

 

[Anti-Hero]

I agree about all those you point out. I speed I don't always wear a seat belt and if I get caught doing it and get fined so be it I am MAN enough to know I was wrong and accept the consequences and do not go to court with some B.S. science project that says speeding is not a bad thing and it is all relative to air pressure and weather or not I was about to wet my pants and was just trying to get to a rest area. With that said I am sure some of you have seen me post with other arguments on this site. I am very passionate about subjects I beleive or do not beleive in. I have never resorted to name calling until now. I am done with this subject because quite frankly there is just no arguing with flat out STUPID. I do not give a crap about science supposedly proving this crap or that crap. Science has in the past been proven wrong and in the future will be proven wrong also. A law is a law and if you break a law their are consequences. If you do not like a law get it changed, I doubt that will happen with this law. If anything the limits are only going to get stricter (thank God) My brother in law who moved to Colarado onc told me that there are sure some weird liberal people in this state, I have met many nice people in Colorado but now I have finally run into one of those weird liberals he was talking about. So in closing I will qoute ruffryder "STFU"

you are just pizzed off because I schooled you with science and you can not argue science. You tried but it failed. p1*v1/t1=p2*v2/t2, sorry I hurt your mangina! Nice mud slinging agian "liberal from Colorado" that is what lesser educated people resort too, mud slinging, just like Obama and Hilary. Since we are ending with a quote "reasonable people are sometimes forced to do unreasonable things because of unreasonable people.” Marv Heemeyer.

 

[Mafesto]

It amazes me how many here are willing to relinquish basic freedoms for supposed safety.

"They, who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security."
- Benjamin Franklin

Why is this different than the police knocking on your door and strolling in to check everything. If you have nothing to hide, why should you worry?

If those of you who are willing to happily have your rights stripped away in the name of safety can't put two and two together here, nothing typed here will ever change your mind. Sad......

Exactly!!

Excellent post!!

 

[xrated]

It amazes me how many here are willing to relinquish basic freedoms for supposed safety.

"They, who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security."
- Benjamin Franklin

Why is this different than the police knocking on your door and strolling in to check everything. If you have nothing to hide, why should you worry?

If those of you who are willing to happily have your rights stripped away in the name of safety can't put two and two together here, nothing typed here will ever change your mind. Sad......

So because I want to drive after going out and drinking, and we are in America it't my basic right as a citizen? So what about little Johny or old man Williams who is walking home from the neighbors? I guess if they get plowed over, tough crap cause it's my right and basic liberty to drive drunk? I don't see that as temporary security or having a right stripped away.