I think we agree way more than disagree. I would bet in your 20-30s you were in pretty good natural shape and now at 40 you are getting back to that. I'm a naturally big guy. In my 20-30s was 250-280lbs at 6'5" height. Have always been active, played football on a National Championship team, played basket ball, skied etc. I'm 47 now and weigh 225. Took me about 4 years to get here. I'm pretty fanatical about it. 2-3 hours a day a minimum of 6 days a week, goal is everyday. I still don't have the definition you have based on the pic you posted. I just bought P90X to rip off the last 3-4% of the body fat that I want. My main goal is to be functionally strong and fit so I can ski, sled, hike and do whatever sports like I want too. As for France I've been there. It was awesome except it was loaded with Frenchmen. Granted they are skinny but definitely not healthy. They smoke and drink like addicts, don't have any muscle mass and it looks like my 17 year old son could beat the crap out of 99% of the grown men. Not impressed. They just look sickly.