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Bkinz
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Well should of just stated that then.
Etec XP X, Pro RMK, or Proclimb 800
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Well should of just stated that then.
I pretty much did, next time I will make it colorful and in a different font to look more like writing with crayons, then you might catch it faster. lol
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treedocker
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i would not get a ski doo if you want to ride in the trees, they are no technical riding sleds but if you want to run up a hill climb course i think there a great sled for that. i would get a cat or a polaris i prefer the pro but thats me everyone is different. my pro will sidehill just as good if not better than my eleven cat but my pro also has a 37 inch ski stance which is super narrow cause they only come with a 39 to 41 adjustable ski stance
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Bkinz
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Maybe make a vid and embed it for me k! haaha
Back to topic so this guy can get his new sled before the flakes are upon us!
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ACMtnCat
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There are really 4 great sleds to choose from. Cat really has 2 or 3 choices, so if you really like your XP and you want a change, you might like the Cat with the horizontal steering post.
The E-tech is a super sweet deep powder sled with some mean horsepower, but it is the heaviest one of the 2 strokes and does not offer many options as far as power add-ons or weight loss goes. Great stock sled!
The Pro RMK is very nimble and works great in the tight trees, but might be lacking some snort and long term reliability in the engine department compared to the others. But add some power mods and you may gain some of that back making it a great choice!
The ProClimb is new and has a load of cool new technology built into it and will likely be as good or better than the other two sleds because of the tech and features put on the new chassis. Who knows!??? But what we do know about the new Cat is it's got a great motor with good power and is in the middle of the weight class and has some easy weight loss to be had on it that would put it real close to the light weight Pro. The 2 steering post options may make it a great choice for both Poo and Doo riders looking to try out Cat for a change!
Comes down to you feeling good on the sled, the sled doing what you want it too and fitting your riding style and very importantly having a dealer that is close and convenient and treats you right. Test ride them and the dealers before you shell out the cash!!! DO NOT BUY IT CUZ SOME GUYS ON SNOWEST SAID TOO, OR CUZ IT LOOKS COOL ON THE VIDEOS!!!!
The E-tech is a super sweet deep powder sled with some mean horsepower, but it is the heaviest one of the 2 strokes and does not offer many options as far as power add-ons or weight loss goes. Great stock sled!
The Pro RMK is very nimble and works great in the tight trees, but might be lacking some snort and long term reliability in the engine department compared to the others. But add some power mods and you may gain some of that back making it a great choice!
The ProClimb is new and has a load of cool new technology built into it and will likely be as good or better than the other two sleds because of the tech and features put on the new chassis. Who knows!??? But what we do know about the new Cat is it's got a great motor with good power and is in the middle of the weight class and has some easy weight loss to be had on it that would put it real close to the light weight Pro. The 2 steering post options may make it a great choice for both Poo and Doo riders looking to try out Cat for a change!
Comes down to you feeling good on the sled, the sled doing what you want it too and fitting your riding style and very importantly having a dealer that is close and convenient and treats you right. Test ride them and the dealers before you shell out the cash!!! DO NOT BUY IT CUZ SOME GUYS ON SNOWEST SAID TOO, OR CUZ IT LOOKS COOL ON THE VIDEOS!!!!
Or it could be the worse sled for all those same reasons. It's funny that you say the Pro has reliability issues when the Pro Climb is new and unproven. I'd say the Pro held it's own last winter.
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ACMtnCat
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No. Actually I said it might have.... Your Pro proved it made it threw the first year. Still needs to prove it's self on a second year and against the ProClimb. I thought I gave some very fare and non-biased input/advice. I didn't say he should buy a Cat because the Cats have proven to be more reliable than the others or is the best in any way, and here you are with your Pro panties all wound in a knot, pointing fingers and acting like I called you names!
The ProClimb has not been tested by the public. It is new and has some technology that if it works, will make the new Cat a better and more reliable sled than the others because that technology! And in the long run will make them all step up the competition making our choices even harder!
The ProClimb has not been tested by the public. It is new and has some technology that if it works, will make the new Cat a better and more reliable sled than the others because that technology! And in the long run will make them all step up the competition making our choices even harder!
I'll say it.
The only sled that I saw fail last season was a pro and it was on its second motor already. Bone stock
The only sled that I saw fail last season was a pro and it was on its second motor already. Bone stock
I'm sure some Pro's did go down. But I also saw several threads where eTecs lost rings and went down and several threads of AC diamond drives failing. I rode with a guy who lost his M8 twice. But this kind of talk is misleading and makes it sound like the Pro's are dropping motors left and right. That is simply not true. In fact it is always the guy who rides one of the other sleds that is so quick to come out and tell everyone that his uncle's, cousin's, best friend's ex-wife lost their Pro motor over and over. Help the guy out looking for a new sled, don't feed him a bunch of BS because you bleed a different color.
Personally I'd like to see the new AC work. I might have to try one and it would be a good compliment to my Pro.
Personally I'd like to see the new AC work. I might have to try one and it would be a good compliment to my Pro.
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ACMtnCat
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I don't see what talking about a diamond drive has anything to do with anything in this thread! Sounds like your trying to feed someone some BS! You should check your BS detector and get back to us with some non-biased opinions on how this guy should decide which sled to buy. Cuz ^ this BS is weak misleading and non-informative at best! With your last comment there about the Cats, why don't you suggest the new Cat as a viable option for this guy? Instead of telling him about a diamond drive that is discontinued and has nothing to do with anything!
I think this guy should buy a E-tec IMO! Because the 2012 E-tec will be a deep powder monster! that will out climb the others in deep snow! But if he wants a change from Skidoo and wants a powerful, nimble and easy handling sled in deep snow and other not so deep conditions with a proven super reliable and mod-able motor.... he should buy the new ProClimb!
IMO Polaris has not proven to have a reliable motor in just one year! and THAT in it's self is reason enough for me to steer him away from that as a choice for a guy looking for help and decide to go one way or another. No reason in my mind to doubt that the Cat wont be as reliable and awesome or even better than the last 6 years or 10 years for that matter.(the 1M's still rock! and those motors are still kill'n it!) Poo on the other hand has got to go 4-5-6 years with zero issues in order to prove they have a motor that will hold up and un-do the bad rap they have with many people!
I am just stating my experience, in the previous posts.
I don't care who is riding a sled, a 5 year old sled will not do what the new ones will. If you took all three brands new last year and made sure they where all running the way they should and put them side by side with the same name on them, then rode them in the back country most would choose the PRO. Its only polaris that is giving the pro a bad name. But the new cat may ride like a pro, so now what. Cat really f'd up buy not having demo rides.
I don't care who is riding a sled, a 5 year old sled will not do what the new ones will. If you took all three brands new last year and made sure they where all running the way they should and put them side by side with the same name on them, then rode them in the back country most would choose the PRO. Its only polaris that is giving the pro a bad name. But the new cat may ride like a pro, so now what. Cat really f'd up buy not having demo rides.
I don't see what talking about a diamond drive has anything to do with anything in this thread! Sounds like your trying to feed someone some BS! You should check your BS detector and get back to us with some non-biased opinions on how this guy should decide which sled to buy. Cuz ^ this BS is weak misleading and non-informative at best! With your last comment there about the Cats, why don't you suggest the new Cat as a viable option for this guy? Instead of telling him about a diamond drive that is discontinued and has nothing to do with anything!
I think this guy should buy a E-tec IMO! Because the 2012 E-tec will be a deep powder monster! that will out climb the others in deep snow! But if he wants a change from Skidoo and wants a powerful, nimble and easy handling sled in deep snow and other not so deep conditions with a proven super reliable and mod-able motor.... he should buy the new ProClimb!
My point is that all three 2-stroke 800's have had issues. Diamond drives have failed, so I'm not misleading anyone.
How is it that the Pro hasn't proven reliable in one year when the eTec is also on one year and the Pro Climb is going to be brand new? The AC does have a proven motor but it has to work in an all new platform. I hope it works for everyone's sake.
I'm not bashing cats. But it's obvious where your loyalty is. I do have a Pro but I'm currently looking for a good deal on an M8, XP or D8 for my gf. I can buy any brand if the deal is right (sorry, no 4-strokes for now).
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ACMtnCat
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Seriously???? You think a motor proves to be reliable after 400-1500 miles? Seriously!!!!!! It's simple why the E-tec does not have the same thing to prove as the Poo 800! The E-tec comes from a company with a better motor history compared to the poo 800 issues. People know and trust the 800R for the most part. I DON'T, BUT OTHERS DO. I've seen a few go pop! You can't say the same for the poo motor and it's history! Because of that the pro 800 motor has more to prove than the E-tec.
The motor is the the hart and soul of a sled as far as I'm concerned! Yeah! I like my '08 Suzuki motor! It has been rock solid for over 7000 miles! and the ol 900 before it, good for 4000 miles and the 900 before that! STRONG AND ROCK SOLID! Why would I not like the soul of the sled that has done that for me? Cat has a power plant that takes to big bores and boost with ease and runs strong with few issues! Why would I not like that?
If the Skidoo had a motor that would take boost, I'd ride the Doo! Skidoos technology is attractive and much more advanced than Poo or Cat up till now. Cat/Suzuki has stepped it up finally and will shine this year, even with awesome competitor sleds like the E-tec and Pro RMK!!!!
Heres a good summer read on the pro
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272165
You know I can't remember the last time a DD failed and I heard about it, they all had a crappy bearing in them that cost like $10 that needed changed but since 09 they have been solid, but the old m-series is not part of the discussion.
The cat is undeniably the best motor, the pro is the best backcountry chassis (last year, we'll see this year), the e-tech has the biggest track, I was a ski-doo guy until the m1000 came out and just can't pass up the kind of power they made and haven't seen anything better than what you can do with a cat since. So don't call me brand loyal, I use what works for the right time and money. The most important thing to me is the engine, everything else can be replaced and made better, it doesn't get any better than the cat engine- even looking at the platform I wouldn't want less than I already have, and the poo design is weak weather it last or not. MY OPINION
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272165
You know I can't remember the last time a DD failed and I heard about it, they all had a crappy bearing in them that cost like $10 that needed changed but since 09 they have been solid, but the old m-series is not part of the discussion.
The cat is undeniably the best motor, the pro is the best backcountry chassis (last year, we'll see this year), the e-tech has the biggest track, I was a ski-doo guy until the m1000 came out and just can't pass up the kind of power they made and haven't seen anything better than what you can do with a cat since. So don't call me brand loyal, I use what works for the right time and money. The most important thing to me is the engine, everything else can be replaced and made better, it doesn't get any better than the cat engine- even looking at the platform I wouldn't want less than I already have, and the poo design is weak weather it last or not. MY OPINION
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treedocker
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i know a guy that rides with rassmussen and from what he told me is that he stills feels more comfortable on his m chassis than the pro climb i rode the pro climb and its like riding a fat girl the body is super wide it will deff take some getting used to and lots of hours of riding. why do you think you never saw rassmussen riding it on his teaser for schooled 3
I wouldn't know but from what I've been told about fat girls is they may not be everyones type but when you ride one you better hang on because they do all the work and work it hard because they never know when the next ride will be. So if thats the case I will take one.
I know people that say they ride like a pro, realize many did not get to ride these in good snow, might have something to do with it. Also a lot of the test mules had the wide stance.
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kidrman
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If it's really like a fat girl then you never saw Rasmussen ride it because fat girls are only fun until your friends see them
see these are the posts that send people in the wrong direction....the new cat is just/if not more nible then the m series. just because you rode some prototype that was setup for a 300lb AC rep, doesnt mean the production ones are gonna be anything like it.
as far as this poor dude who started this thread, IMO there are just a few things to consider, dealer support is by far the most important. if your going two stroke, its gonna break. after that, how much money your gonna spend and what kind of options your gonna get. then consider your past expierence....i can tell you that when i jump on an XP, i go backwards in my riding ability.....im not sure if its the same for XP owners going to poo or cat style post...if i were to sell my cat tomrrow and buy an xp, it would easily take me 4 months to get a solid handle on it..... and unless you live close to whistler, 4 months is a big part of your season.....
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Jaynelson
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Who would have thought this thread would trainwreck? Just go to the dealer and see which one looks cool. If you're asking on here....you will never get a clear answer.
On a side note....does anyone else hate artic cat for starting this rediculous steering post discussion that comes into every other thread? I wouldn't buy one for that alone.
On a side note....does anyone else hate artic cat for starting this rediculous steering post discussion that comes into every other thread? I wouldn't buy one for that alone.
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