broken drive shaft
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my guess would be that polaris specs a special glue for the driveshafts...I doubt that lords 201 is it..my guess either one of the high end 400 series or something that doesnt even show on lords website...
dont be looking under the new trucks then..most manufacturers are glueing the aluminum driveshafts togeather as well..............
Telling me Glue is great is like Obama telling us all the last 4 years have been Awesome!
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snowmobiler
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truck.
not really..but it is the present and the future..our current autos have been using it for quite a while now..most structural bodywork/sheetmetal is glued, driveshafts, even some frame reinforcments....the stuff works when properly selected /applied........heck, the air industry probably makes a far more significant use right now then anyone else does..
You do realize there was a time when welding first came into being (before that everything was rivited or bolted togeather), and I am sure everyone had the same reservations about welding that we today have about glue....yet today we look back on those who thought rivits were the only way and laugh...maybe a good idea to read up on some of these new glues and what they can do....
Crap..gonna add one more thing..do you think skidoo, cat and yammy are going to keep doing things the way they have the last 10 yrs? because they wont..they too will be coming out with light weight, glued togeather sleds as well..where every peice of the machine is made as small/light strong as can be while staying competitive with the competition..thats a fact of life..and polaris even with some hickups here and there..is proving it is doable, it is acheavable and it does work....what happens when polaris gets it all perfected and it all works as designed? the others have no choice but to go the same route, and push even farther to gain market share.....
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Let it snow!!! Pull the rope, pin the throttle, and have fun!!!
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paulharris
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well, this one is welded together
Driveshaft just failed! 170 miles!!
Looks like its going to be one of those years.
One of my riding group broke his belt on the belt drive with 15 miles on it and now this. For all the nonbelievers (including myselft) One of my other buddies just lost his driveshaft on his 2013 800 he had 170 miles on it. It looks like the the epoxy let loose and the steel twisted inside the pot metal (aluminum). I will hopefully post pics tomorrow. Drive shafts are back ordered until 11/30/13. I guess he won't be going with on the first trip to the mountains next week.
By the way, "whoisthatguy"! You are very smart.
Probability increases as sample size grows. Apparently there was a problem that is why this topic came up. Polaris just put out 1000x more snowmobiles then they had test sleds. If there is a problem you will start hearing more about it as people actually start riding. I'm guessing there is only about 10% of the new 2013's that have hit the snow.
Anyways i'm scared about my 2013 and definitely not selling my 2012.
Looks like its going to be one of those years.
One of my riding group broke his belt on the belt drive with 15 miles on it and now this. For all the nonbelievers (including myselft) One of my other buddies just lost his driveshaft on his 2013 800 he had 170 miles on it. It looks like the the epoxy let loose and the steel twisted inside the pot metal (aluminum). I will hopefully post pics tomorrow. Drive shafts are back ordered until 11/30/13. I guess he won't be going with on the first trip to the mountains next week.By the way, "whoisthatguy"! You are very smart.
Probability increases as sample size grows. Apparently there was a problem that is why this topic came up. Polaris just put out 1000x more snowmobiles then they had test sleds. If there is a problem you will start hearing more about it as people actually start riding. I'm guessing there is only about 10% of the new 2013's that have hit the snow.
Anyways i'm scared about my 2013 and definitely not selling my 2012.
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doorandt
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the glue is not the problem. the design is the problem. WHO...your math seems to be in the ballpark as far as i can estimate. i think that what he was trying to say can be dumbed down a little. you ever hit a stubborn bolt with an impact gun and the bolt head strips? that is because the socket is stronger or has a little slop. what happens if the socket is weaker then the bolt? the socket breaks apart. i think that is what is going on with the driveshafts. 
We all need to keep our political opinions out of these forums.
Let it snow!!! Pull the rope, pin the throttle, and have fun!!!
I'll post or speak my political opinions wherever and whenever I feel like it. Libs are easy to spot, always trying to silence the opposition.
back to topic, sorry
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I've combined the various 2013 Drive shaft threads into one to keep them all easy to read and in one place.
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I've combined the various 2013 Drive shaft threads into one to keep them all easy to read and in one place.
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RKT
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the glue is not the problem. the design is the problem. WHO...your math seems to be in the ballpark as far as i can estimate. i think that what he was trying to say can be dumbed down a little. you ever hit a stubborn bolt with an impact gun and the bolt head strips? that is because the socket is stronger or has a little slop. what happens if the socket is weaker then the bolt? the socket breaks apart. i think that is what is going on with the driveshafts.
I think you are correct.
We took a pro-active approach and the kit we designed should strengthen the weak area in this design and keep peopl riding while Polaris gets to work changing the design to a stronger one..
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ak49er
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Out of Balance?
Has any one given the thought that due to the varying amonts of glue applied, this could be an "out-of-balance" issue?
Perhaps the engineering was right, and this bond should hold, but drop few ounces or even grams of glue off center and then spin that shaft up....
What are we talking here for shaft speed? Engine RPM+
Has any one given the thought that due to the varying amonts of glue applied, this could be an "out-of-balance" issue?
Perhaps the engineering was right, and this bond should hold, but drop few ounces or even grams of glue off center and then spin that shaft up....
What are we talking here for shaft speed? Engine RPM+
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Oregonsledder
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I’m no engineer, but I would find that hard to understand. I would think that the variance of snow and ice on the drivers would be a much bigger balance issue than glue drops near the centerline of the drive shaft. The rpm’s are also not high enough IMHO for drive shaft balance to be any issue.
YET ANOTHER DRIVESHAFT DOWN
I just got a call from Brad miedinger, Jeff Miedinger's (Dakota Performance) twin brother. This morning jeff broke the shaft on a 13 pro w/turbo, sled has aprox, 130+/- miles. Most of these miles on the dyno, was testing in a stubble field and broke the shaft, i asked for a picture so hopefully i can get one. Funny thing is Jeff cant seem to find a 2012 drivesaft they are backordered now. LETS HOPE POLARIS FIXES THIS!! from what i understand jeff saw considerable amount of fles and even added a support to lessen flex...
I just got a call from Brad miedinger, Jeff Miedinger's (Dakota Performance) twin brother. This morning jeff broke the shaft on a 13 pro w/turbo, sled has aprox, 130+/- miles. Most of these miles on the dyno, was testing in a stubble field and broke the shaft, i asked for a picture so hopefully i can get one. Funny thing is Jeff cant seem to find a 2012 drivesaft they are backordered now. LETS HOPE POLARIS FIXES THIS!! from what i understand jeff saw considerable amount of fles and even added a support to lessen flex...
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