Bilers for Obama--Important notice!!
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i say hang 'em
well your logic is wrong again. here is a little synopsis of what i believe.... for the record. i do believe that obama can turn the "american experiment" into another communistic repeat. heres why....we have been fed just enough socialism so as not to disturb the american dream. you know the frog in boiling water analogy. there is and continues to be an insidious assault on the fundamental principles of this country. there has been an infiltration of the main social institutions with people of radical ideologies.... school(from cradle to grave) government, media, banks etc. they are like termites eating away the fabric and foundation of society. like the American Thinker article said....(paraphrase) if obama wins those termites will be coming out of basements in droves.... if obama loses they will continue their work.ts called gradualism.... i think the guy that first started this paradigm was antonoio gramsci(SP?). presumabaly a very influential communist.... the founder of the ACLU, roger baldwin, was a devout follower of gramsci.
so in summation we are ripe for a dictator. obama isnt usurping 200 years of history...no he is filling a void that has been perfectly carved out for over 100yrs.
Oh hell if we keep this at the top of the page, Dough head will come back.
Thanks for the new nickname!! Nah, I have said my peace (several times). I just like to laugh at ya'll believing the fear mongers out there. For one night, just one night, switch over to Kieth Olberman after you get done with watching the "fair and balanced" O'Reilly.
Oberman? Shirly, you jest. Oberman is a bottom feeding scumbag of the worst sort. I'd rather set my head on fire and put it out with a sledge hammer. Good God! Oberman!
Sorry, but after watching SNL make fun of McCain and Palin week after week, I canceled my DISH network, and now can't get TV. Hadn't missed the brainwashing at all.
If you want fair and balanced, then watch both sides, regardless of the media. There are two sides of the story. I honestly spend more of my time listening to the Republican side. Just trying to find out what it is that makes you guys believe what you do.
That's funny, I listen to NPR for the same reason. You can almost see their noses stuck up in the air, when they have to do a story about Democrats.
I thought Carter was a wus, and Clinton always seemed to do things half way. Fire a t-lam at someone rather than take them out. Best I can figure, Liberals don't believe in survival of the fittest, or natural selection, or humans need to kill one another to ensure their genetic individuality survives. They are self defeatist. Liberals actually want something bad to happen to America, as some sort of penance, or is it just drama. They actually want to hold back the USA, lower ourselves to the lowest common denominator. When they talk about job creation, they talk about government regulations to force companies to make jobs. Or creating positions that "monitor" something. Now, Obama has talked about creating jobs through green energy. I actually agree this is a good idea, but don't think the Dems (ie government) can pull it off, without robbing the program blind, and hamstringing the program with so much legal challenge and red tape, that it fails. Sure Obama, the greenies are going to let you put up 100,000 windmills and transmission lines. Yha, right.
Anyway, he liberal mindset would enslave us, if it weren't for us rednecks, that protect you.
Don't expect any TAX DEDUCTION or REBATES...If you have not been paying attention the USA is in debt and higher tax for everyone is a given.
Folks need to remember the president is a "figure head" and is bossed around by congress... The US congress runs the show which is a majority of democrats the same congress of democrats that has watched this country fall apart......With the possibilty of a democrats puppet as president the halls of the white house will be run by democrats......Governament only works when there is a balance of repubs & dems in power.
And by the way can someone tell me what the democrat congressman controlling the whitehouse have done for americans lately ?
Remember congress has been run by democrats
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Folks need to remember the president is a "figure head" and is bossed around by congress... The US congress runs the show which is a majority of democrats the same congress of democrats that has watched this country fall apart......With the possibilty of a democrats puppet as president the halls of the white house will be run by democrats......Governament only works when there is a balance of repubs & dems in power.
And by the way can someone tell me what the democrat congressman controlling the whitehouse have done for americans lately ?
Remember congress has been run by democrats
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Don't expect any TAX DEDUCTION or REBATES...If you have not been paying attention the USA is in debt and higher tax for everyone is a given.
Folks need to remember the president is a "figure head" and is bossed around by congress... The US congress runs the show which is a majority of democrats the same congress of democrats that has watched this country fall apart......With the possibilty of a democrats puppet as president the halls of the white house will be run by democrats......Governament only works when there is a balance of repubs & dems in power.
And by the way can someone tell me what the democrat congressman controlling the whitehouse have done for americans lately ?
Remember congress has been run by democrats
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not picking on you but that is an incorrect statement. government only works when it is filled with people who have a large amount of character, morals and truly want what is best for the posterity of america. has nothing to do with dems or repubs. the whole system needs to be overhauled. you say that the president is just a figurehead??? well he has term limits but the two houses do not.... WHY!!??? they emphatically should!
you see we disagree at a fundamental level. you try and label me(or whoever) by saying its "fear mongering or fear tactics" when i say, no its just pointing out the truth. you continue to obfuscate or minimalize the facts of OBAMA. i ask you... would you act the same way if ANY conservative or republican had a sordid history such as obama? another question for you... do you agree with marxist ideology? im sure i will continue to receive more intellectual dishonesty from you on those ?'s. in reality it doesnt matter what your answers are. they do not, in any way, authenticate or validate the truth at hand.
i dont watch o'reilly as i dont really care for him. as for mr olberman... that man has a seething hatred for any vestige of the constitution. it would seem you two come from the same wood pile.... though you dont come off as angry as olberman.
Here is the deal, we can agrue issues all day long. You think trickle down theory works, I do not. You think taxing medical with a credit is good, I think an optional government health care fund is good, etc. Great, we can agree to disagree.
What really peeves my arse is when people, McCain and Palin included, call Obama a terrorist, Marxist, communist, socialist, etc. Those are NOT true and are fear tactics. Obama does not have the power to change our form of government. The worst that can happen is we have more governmental programs. Which, by the way, happens in EVERY presidency. Look at Bush under the 6 years of full control. We added department of homeland security, no child left behind (which as my teacher wife says is dumb, it rewards the schools that do not do well), etc.
So, I don't mind talking spinning issues and such in a campaign as they all do it. One example, Obama's tax plan would kill small business. Another example that Obama says is McCain is going to tax health care for the first time, yet he doesn't mention the credit. So, they both are wrong, but they both do it.
What is wrong (and Karl Rove was a master at this) is the fear tactics. McCain has just as bad a connection to Khalidi as Obama, your point? If you watch the so called Democratic channels, they present both sides of that. If you watch Fox News, it is only the one side. Except for a 30 attempt at Colmes to bring it up, then Hannity went straight to commercial and they came right back and started talking about Obama's tie to him.
How the funk is that fair and balanced? LOL
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shortstop20
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Fox is the most watched news channel........take a wild guess why? It's the only one that comes close to being balanced, I admit it tips to the Conservative side a little but you still get both sides for the most part. The rest of the channels clearly lean to the left and some of them are straight up die-hard liberals. Keith Olberman is a joke. Every time I see him on TV I want to break it.
Fox is watched the most because smart people watch the news and know its their responsibility to stay informed. And conservatives are far more responsible then liberals. And beleive it or not they are fair and balanced - ------ Neg stories about candidates - MSNBC 79% neg mccain - 20% neg Obama / FOX - 40% Mccain 40% Obama . Ignorance is the only reason Obama is doing as well as he is.
2001400ex when is the last time Olberman pissed you off? Oreilly pisses me off nightly, but I still watch him cause he has balance. Hannity and Colmes piss me off nightly but I still watch them to get the other perspective. Olberman is 100% biased and could be basically viewed as left wing propoganda.
Now go away and listen to Glenn Beck, that man has got things figured out.
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Yha, that's pretty much a stretch. Foxnews is conservative, that's for sure. But since they are the only conservative mainstream news, they have to balance out the other dozen liberal news outlets. If it wasn't for Fox, we wouldn't hear 1/20th of the stories the press SHOULD BE FOLLOWING. What do we have to do, run a tracking service were we see how many channels jump on a negative story about democrats versus republicans? CNN can't even follow up on a Obama story, but they will camp out in some republicans front yard to make him look stupid. Heck, Glenn Beck of CNN, states right up front that the majority of the News Media is greatly liberal biased. And, he's talking about his boss.
McCain is not a true Republican, sorry. He is center, from every point of view. The liberal side has painted him as some sort of conservative. If he were the liberal candidate, running against a Romney type, you'd have nothing but great things to say about him. But, if Obama were running on the conservative ticket, we'd still be wondering were the guy came from, and what his hidden agenda is. I at least have a idea of what McCain has been trying to do for the last 30 years, no matter what he says. And, I think I know what Obama has been trying to do since 1985.
Martin Luther King was a socialist, plain and simple. Obama wants to finish his work, simple enough. Obama hasn't been on the record long enough, to show his true feelings and intentions. He as a Dem, with a Dem controlled Legislative, have the potential to go completely hog wild. I'd rather see McCain up there, to throttle Pelosi and Reed. There's nothing so dire, that we need to take a chance on Obama, ask him to come back in 8 years, then we'll try.
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shortstop20
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Glenn Beck is the man when it comes to news reporters, nobody else comes close.
Glenn Beck is the same guy that says "it is proven time and time again that when you cut taxes it brings in MORE revenue. When you raise taxes, it brings in LESS revenue"
Tell me where that is PROVEN. Please just one person show me that EVIDENCE. Not some reporter or economist. In the last 20 years, we had Clinton raise taxes in 1993 and Bush cut taxes in 2002 and 2003. So the evidence one way or another is there.
And for Olbermann, I really haven't watched him, just a couple times this past week. He is just as liberal as Beck is conservative. I am just saying, watch both sides, and Fox is not both sides. And how do you know Beck's bosses are liberal? Show me evidence on that. I know O'Reilly spouts that ABC, NBC and the like are, but I have never heard him say CNN.
Come ya'll support your "facts." I am anxiously waiting.
Character, Morals and truly want posterity of america. has nothing to do with dems or repubs...If that were the case we wouldblt be fight about Red states or Blue states.
You can't accept much character or morals as long as America is a "melting pot" of foriegners who left there foriegn country with a no morals & no character and to only prosper OFF the USA by any means they know how......America has be SOLD OUT by democrat and republican policy makers.
And as for OBAMA he is a puppet for the democrat army. If you just landed on the USA you might think Bill Clinton is running again for office.
Obama talks the talk but has yet to be tested if he can walk the walk.
You can not INCREASE NATIONAL DEBT and CUT TAX. The USA is in huge debt and every tax payer in america will be paying for it.....Who's going to be paying for the phugging BAIL OUT that just occured 2 weels ago ???? .....
By the way every democrat & republican policy maker screwed every US Citizen.
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