Bilers for Obama--Important notice!!

[Wade]

heres a very good read... worth the time!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/11/letter_to_christopher_hitchens.html

That's a good read. It's possible that most Americans will list Bush as the worst president, but at the same time, Iraqis may list him as the best.

A part of me hates the Iraq war, another part of me hates Europe for not helping to rid the world of a killer. Although, after their last attempt to help ethnic wars in Africa, maybe it's best they stay home. I wonder what circumstances would have to arise, for Obama to justify troops?

 

[Wade]

Do you think Mickey Mouse can vote? Come on, there is a difference between voter fraud and voter registration fraud. And just because Obama had some donations to ACORN over the years does not mean he helped or knew about the registration fraud. This was done by a small number of employees that did not meet the quota and used fake names.

You can not see the picture, from just one piece of a jig-saw puzzle. If you systematically discount every single piece, for it's failure to complete the image, you will never see the pattern they collectively form.

 

[MTm7]

you are the classic reductionist arguer! that is the only credibility you have... and you do it well. obama is as dirty as they come... that truth does not hinge on your opinion or mine. it stands alone whether or not we agree. please save your rhetoric about mccain/repubs... they suck too!

 

[2001400ex]

That's a good read. It's possible that most Americans will list Bush as the worst president, but at the same time, Iraqis may list him as the best.

A part of me hates the Iraq war, another part of me hates Europe for not helping to rid the world of a killer. Although, after their last attempt to help ethnic wars in Africa, maybe it's best they stay home. I wonder what circumstances would have to arise, for Obama to justify troops?

Saddam had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Al Queda did, and we still have not stopped that force. And how do you know those Iraqis want to live in a democracy? There are several other dictatorships around the world, why aren't we in those countries to make them free? Maybe because Iraq was Bush's pet project.

If you do not see that, then I feel sorry for you being so blinded.

 

[2001400ex]

You can not see the picture, from just one piece of a jig-saw puzzle. If you systematically discount every single piece, for it's failure to complete the image, you will never see the pattern they collectively form.

No, it is the Republican's trying to put fear tactics on the American people. And the people that fall prey to it are weak minded individuals.

 

[2001400ex]

you are the classic reductionist arguer! that is the only credibility you have... and you do it well. obama is as dirty as they come... that truth does not hinge on your opinion or mine. it stands alone whether or not we agree. please save your rhetoric about mccain/repubs... they suck too!

No, I post fact to show what you guys say is BS.

And yes, McCain/Palin do suck. He is the ultimate flip flopper and Obama should have exploited that.

Look, in the last election, the majority of the people I know said Bush sucks, but Kerry is a flip flopper and we need someone to stand for something.

This election, the majority of the poeple I know say McCain sucks, but Obama is a Muslim with a racist pastor who is perpetrating voter fraud.

It is called fear tactics. Open up your eyes. If you vote for McCain, good for you, but tell me a good reason why, not that the other guy sucks.

 

[Wade]

No, I post fact to show what you guys say is BS.

And yes, McCain/Palin do suck. He is the ultimate flip flopper and Obama should have exploited that.

Look, in the last election, the majority of the people I know said Bush sucks, but Kerry is a flip flopper and we need someone to stand for something.

This election, the majority of the poeple I know say McCain sucks, but Obama is a Muslim with a racist pastor who is perpetrating voter fraud.

It is called fear tactics. Open up your eyes. If you vote for McCain, good for you, but tell me a good reason why, not that the other guy sucks.

Nice facts.

 

[Wade]

Saddam had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Al Queda did, and we still have not stopped that force. And how do you know those Iraqis want to live in a democracy? There are several other dictatorships around the world, why aren't we in those countries to make them free? Maybe because Iraq was Bush's pet project.

If you do not see that, then I feel sorry for you being so blinded.

I'm not blind the FACT, that we killed a bad person. And, gave them a opportunity. They can build any society they want, or kill each other. It's their choice now.

 

[Wade]

No, it is the Republican's trying to put fear tactics on the American people. And the people that fall prey to it are weak minded individuals.

They sure don't have to try very hard with Obama. I could sick a smooth talking suit full of horse **** up on the stage, and you'd have just as much understanding of it, as you do Obama.

 

[MTm7]

No, I post fact to show what you guys say is BS.

And yes, McCain/Palin do suck. He is the ultimate flip flopper and Obama should have exploited that.

Look, in the last election, the majority of the people I know said Bush sucks, but Kerry is a flip flopper and we need someone to stand for something.

This election, the majority of the poeple I know say McCain sucks, but Obama is a Muslim with a racist pastor who is perpetrating voter fraud.

It is called fear tactics. Open up your eyes. If you vote for McCain, good for you, but tell me a good reason why, not that the other guy sucks.

first off you wouldnt know what a good idea was until YOU looked objectively at this whole situation. until then you are fool in my mind. its only a good idea if it fits your liberal lens.... therefore you validate it as truth. that is a very poor attempt at self-deification. your stanard of judging is so lopsided its hilarious. but you think the same thing of me sooooo?

here's a good reason to vote for mccain... HE IS NOT A MARXIST! im starting to think your so jaded, if obama said the sun doesnt really exist, you would defend him? it is obvious you have been trained in the school of liberal theology... CONCEDE NOTHING.... THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS!!!

 

[framus]

first off you wouldnt know what a good idea was until YOU looked objectively at this whole situation. until then you are fool in my mind. its only a good idea if it fits your liberal lens.... therefore you validate it as truth. that is a very poor attempt at self-deification. your stanard of judging is so lopsided its hilarious. but you think the same thing of me sooooo?

here's a good reason to vote for mccain... HE IS NOT A MARXIST! im starting to think your so jaded, if obama said the sun doesnt really exist, you would defend him? it is obvious you have been trained in the school of liberal theology... CONCEDED NOTHING.... THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS!!!

"THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS!!!" Thats it right there, theres your liberal coniver. Obama seems to have it in his mind that people are going to bend to his will and follow him always...LMAO Might I remind Obama and his followers that at least half the country doesnt like him and his policies and this "half" has some significance.

I dont think that your average 2001400ex will lift one g#d damnmed finger to help save our riding areas. I'll be right here 2001400ex, and I'll remind you each time we lose.

 

[MTm7]

No, it is the Republican's trying to put fear tactics on the American people. And the people that fall prey to it are weak minded individuals.

for once i agree with you.... one thing though it is the marxist that prey on the weak minded and you are the poster-child. let me say it again, ad infinitum, obama espouses marxist tenants and you have yet to prove, BY FACTS AS YOU SAY, to the contrary. you run from that every time and you will have to stay dishonest to uphold the liberal creed.... concede nothing. so go ahead spew your brainwashed mantra 'red boy'!

 

[2001400ex]

for once i agree with you.... one thing though it is the marxist that prey on the weak minded and you are the poster-child. let me say it again, ad infinitum, obama espouses marxist tenants and you have yet to prove, BY FACTS AS YOU SAY, to the contrary. you run from that every time and you will have to stay dishonest to uphold the liberal creed.... concede nothing. so go ahead spew your brainwashed mantra 'red boy'!

Marxism defined:
While there are many theoretical and practical differences among the various forms of Marxism, most forms of Marxism share these principles:

• a belief that capitalism is based on the exploitation[3] of workers by the owners for the means of production
• a belief that people's consciousness of the conditions of their lives reflects the dominant ideology which is in turn shaped by material conditions and relations of production
• an understanding of class in terms of differing relations of production, and as a particular position within such relations
• an understanding of material conditions and social relations as historically malleable
• a view of history according to which class struggle, the evolving conflict between classes with opposing interests, structures each historical period and drives historical change
• a belief that this dialectical historical process will ultimately result in a replacement of the current class structure of society with a system that manages society for the good of all, resulting in the dissolution of the class structure and its support (more often than not including the nation state)

All Obama is proposing is putting the tax structure back to when Clinton was in office and enabling everyone access to the same medical insurance plan he is offered. How does that meet the above definition?

 

[Wade]

Marxism defined:
While there are many theoretical and practical differences among the various forms of Marxism, most forms of Marxism share these principles:

• a belief that capitalism is based on the exploitation[3] of workers by the owners for the means of production
• a belief that people's consciousness of the conditions of their lives reflects the dominant ideology which is in turn shaped by material conditions and relations of production
• an understanding of class in terms of differing relations of production, and as a particular position within such relations
• an understanding of material conditions and social relations as historically malleable
• a view of history according to which class struggle, the evolving conflict between classes with opposing interests, structures each historical period and drives historical change
• a belief that this dialectical historical process will ultimately result in a replacement of the current class structure of society with a system that manages society for the good of all, resulting in the dissolution of the class structure and its support (more often than not including the nation state)

All Obama is proposing is putting the tax structure back to when Clinton was in office and enabling everyone access to the same medical insurance plan he is offered. How does that meet the above definition?

Payroll taxes will increase above what was under Clinton. And, if were are reinstalling the Clinton taxes, why is Obama talking about reducing tax on the middleclass. I thought you said it was the same?

 

[MTm7]

Marxism defined:
While there are many theoretical and practical differences among the various forms of Marxism, most forms of Marxism share these principles:

• a belief that capitalism is based on the exploitation[3] of workers by the owners for the means of production
• a belief that people's consciousness of the conditions of their lives reflects the dominant ideology which is in turn shaped by material conditions and relations of production
• an understanding of class in terms of differing relations of production, and as a particular position within such relations
• an understanding of material conditions and social relations as historically malleable
• a view of history according to which class struggle, the evolving conflict between classes with opposing interests, structures each historical period and drives historical change
• a belief that this dialectical historical process will ultimately result in a replacement of the current class structure of society with a system that manages society for the good of all, resulting in the dissolution of the class structure and its support (more often than not including the nation state)

All Obama is proposing is putting the tax structure back to when Clinton was in office and enabling everyone access to the same medical insurance plan he is offered. How does that meet the above definition?

classic reductionist argument again. so to use your words that is basically the substance of obama? i think there is quite a bit more... here you go... one more for you to dance around:
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=305420655186700

and another... those are his words and are straight from the marxist paradigm. dance boy dance!
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=309999370915090&kw=2001,interview

by the way your little linky that you posted as your defense.... did you happen to read it all? did you happen to see the lineage that espoused marxism?

 

[MTm7]

another great read!

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/11/obama_the_two_dimensional_pres.html

 

[Wade]

MTm7, you ever look at this website. theobamafile Someone has dug up every single thing they can here. I'd kinda take a lot of it as interesting, but check the facts first.

Yha, before you say anything 2001400ex, the site might be biased.

 

[MTm7]

more facts... man this is fun!

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=303605575673142

 

[MTm7]

MTm7, you ever look at this website. theobamafile Someone has dug up every single thing they can here. I'd kinda take a lot of it as interesting, but check the facts first.

Yha, before you say anything 2001400ex, the site might be biased.

no i have not... does it seem shady? i think for the most part the links i have been posting are credible. thanks for the site though wade!!!

 

[2001400ex]

no i have not... does it seem shady? i think for the most part the links i have been posting are credible. thanks for the site though wade!!!

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