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Bigger engine coming THIS year?

Nailed it! I put a comment up on Cats Facebook page and they deleted it. So, I'm fairly confident on what it's gonna be.

I just put it all together, thought about who Cat was working with over the last several years, what their pro riders were doing with their sleds, etc.. I'm not gonna just come out and say it, since some of you like surprises, but you can figure it out if you want[emoji106]
 
I raced a 165" 9R last year on my 2019 154" alpha, I had him off the line and was 2-3 feet in front of him all the way up the hill. Polaris is just marketing BS!
 
I raced a 165" 9R last year on my 2019 154" alpha, I had him off the line and was 2-3 feet in front of him all the way up the hill. Polaris is just marketing BS!
I guarantee you a 155 9R would smoke a 165 alpha. The real test is between sleds with the same track length and lugs.
 
Someone mentioned the survey earlier. I received the same one, and have a feeling cat was fishing to see if they can get there sleds into the big box stores like they did with the dirt market. I fear they are going to try selling sleds at bass pro and cabelas, which would seriously hurt the already small dealer market, and overall the consumer market as dealer would most definitely put big box store bought sleds last. I have done some pondering and have a feeling Cat will be releasing a mid season release, otherwise why create all the hype at haydays instead of in early February prior to the other manufactures releasing their new sleds. In fact I bet they wanna show they run good, to try and generate new sled sales. This may rub the 24 snow checkers the wrong way but overall worth while. I know I will be switching from a Poo XCR to a Cat RR if the new engine performs solid, and the plastic cat holds up.
 
Ryan Harris says no factory turbo coming from Cat in the near future according to the latest SnoWest podcast.
I took what he said as they confirmed a bigger motor but did not confirm a turbo when I watched the podcast. Doesn’t necessarily mean there will not be one.
 
I have done some pondering and have a feeling Cat will be releasing a mid season release, otherwise why create all the hype at haydays instead of in early February prior to the other manufactures releasing their new sleds. In fact I bet they wanna show they run good, to try and generate new sled sales. This may rub the 24 snow checkers the wrong way but overall worth while. I know I will be switching from a Poo XCR to a Cat RR if the new engine performs solid, and the plastic cat holds up.
You mean like they did last year at Hay Days showing the whole Catalyst thinigy more than a year before anyone could take delivery of one?
 
I still think it's going to be a supercharger. With McClure and Kincaid riding them for years, Cat has to have been dabbling in it.

If it is, I'm curious for a discussion on overcoming the drawbacks: excessive noise, bad fuel economy, unwieldy acceleration, elevation gear changes. How would a manufacturer solve those?
 
I still think it's going to be a supercharger. With McClure and Kincaid riding them for years, Cat has to have been dabbling in it.

If it is, I'm curious for a discussion on overcoming the drawbacks: excessive noise, bad fuel economy, unwieldy acceleration, elevation gear changes. How would a manufacturer solve those?
They don't, which is why It's not going to be supercharged. Cat was working on a turbo, Textron pulled the plug on the project. The engineer heading up the project went to Polaris shortly before the boost was released.
 
I still think it's going to be a supercharger. With McClure and Kincaid riding them for years, Cat has to have been dabbling in it.

If it is, I'm curious for a discussion on overcoming the drawbacks: excessive noise, bad fuel economy, unwieldy acceleration, elevation gear changes. How would a manufacturer solve those?
I just don’t see the supercharger happening for those reasons, along with cat having a 2S turbo patent.

I’ve never ridden a supercharger but struggle to see the need after riding Doo’s turbo. It proves that a turbo can have an extremely clean/strong bottom end and minimal lag with a super linear transition into the boost.
 
I’ve never ridden a supercharger but struggle to see the need after riding Doo’s turbo. It proves that a turbo can have an extremely clean/strong bottom end and minimal lag with a super linear transition into the boost.

Agreed. I rode an Expert Turbo last season and it was incredibly responsive. I'm either getting one of those or a big bore Cat for the '25 season.
 
I just don’t see the supercharger happening for those reasons, along with cat having a 2S turbo patent.

I’ve never ridden a supercharger but struggle to see the need after riding Doo’s turbo. It proves that a turbo can have an extremely clean/strong bottom end and minimal lag with a super linear transition into the boost.
They have insane bottom end and midrange. Pulls harder off the bottom than my 900 N/A at sea level with the high elevation head on race/pump gas mix. Can give it a bounce and squeeze the throttle and pretty much hops out of the snow. Makes creek crossings and log hops really fun! Takes really good throttle control to effectively manage it though. At least in the state of tune Nethercott/Speedwerx puts them in. It's a lot for the average rider. My buddy that has one too describes it as violent and my dad that has been riding since he was a kid got off of it and wanted no part of it for an everyday sled. It makes me giggle and I'm not sad I have one.
 
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