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Big trouble today - help needed!!!!

The first link is where the sleds spent the night. The second link is where we started the recovery from Sunday. Pretty much a side hill and thru the bottom banging out. If you go directly south of the first link is how we got into said shatty spot. 7 hours of three guys with tow straps hanging off the back of a sled pulling with everything we had to keep the sled from sliding out of control while one guy steered and pumped the breaks 200 ft at a time. Then everyone hike back up to the next sled. 5 sleds total. We had to of done close to 5,000ft of vertical climbing to get all of sleds to the bottom Saturday. No wonder my legs hurt!

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=40.5565,-110.934&ie=UTF8&om=1&ll=40.557015,-110.93801&spn=0.01389,0.033946&t=p&z=15


http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=40.5559,-110.9426&ie=UTF8&om=1&ll=40.557048,-110.93359&spn=0.01389,0.033946&t=p&z=15

YUP! that big circle is it! but we came down the left side as you look at it. through the pines! damn! I think the road you mean is on the side with the Aspens and may be filled in. The sheriff told us it was there but a mean side hill. thanks for the google!!!

Rock - is this where you guys are stuck at??

Lower (larger) circle is where my gut tells me you were at. Upper smaller circle is Cold Spring meadow/hill area.

If this happens to be the place you are stuck at, there is an old road in the trees (to your left as you look back up the hill you would have dropped down) that winds up and out the top, but in the winter it's nearly impossible to tell it's there! I've been stuck down there before for hours trying to climb out - finally broke down and found the old road and we were able to get out. The last sidehill up out of the trees and back on top was hairy though!

Might not be the place - but figured I'd throw this out if it is!


Seem to be conflicting maps as to where you guys were stuck, can anyone verify the actual stuck map and location?
 
Seem to be conflicting maps as to where you guys were stuck, can anyone verify the actual stuck map and location?

There's no conflict. The images that Rock referenced earlier were oriented differently (google earth), than the locations that Spencer posted. The locations are the same. (Relatively speaking)
 
Actually, you're right. I just plugged in the lat/long in google earth. The locations RMKrazy posted are incorrect.

The locations Spencer posted are correct.


AHH that seems correct because Chief told me they were down Iron Mine Creek and the map posted by RMKrazy is showing the backside of lightning ridge (also impassible, apparently) So were is this "backdoor" road out of the creek bottom, or did you guys just pull some serious ditch bang'n side hill'n crazy rid'n to get out of there?:eek:
 
The two links In my earllier post are the I'm "OK" pages from my SPOT. The first page was sent Saturday night when we were stuck and the second link was sent from where we staged Sunday to start the rescue. I am not sure what/where RMKCRAZY post referances but my links are exactly where we were.

Hope that helps.

and it was crazy sidehilling/ditch banging/mad skills that got the sleds out... Thanks again to all who helped.
 
AHH that seems correct because Chief told me they were down Iron Mine Creek and the map posted by RMKrazy is showing the backside of lightning ridge (also impassible, apparently) So were is this "backdoor" road out of the creek bottom, or did you guys just pull some serious ditch bang'n side hill'n crazy rid'n to get out of there?:eek:

I don't believe there's a backdoor road in that drainage. The recovery effort was as you state, 'serious ditch bang'n side hill'n crazy rid'n'. Which I absolutely did not participate in, as fresher bodies pulled my sled out of the hole for me.
 
I guess if I want a better ride i should let Spencer lead, That looks like some crazy riding. I can't beleive you missed the boy scout road that was right there. Ha Ha There might have been a road there 50 years ago it is now covered by trees. Sorry i missed a fun ride and that i missed Spencer leading.
 
I don't believe there's a backdoor road in that drainage. The recovery effort was as you state, 'serious ditch bang'n side hill'n crazy rid'n'. Which I absolutely did not participate in, as fresher bodies pulled my sled out of the hole for me.


Yeah, it was done Chris Burandt style
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And get that tether fixed. That Rev kicked Hector's azz when it cut out on him. LMAO
 
TOTALLY different places is right! No wonder you couldn't find a road GOV!!!

We were off in our late night assessment of quick google earth imagery! Sorry for the goose-chase and guess I shouldn't have pressed you for location after the hell you'd been through!!
 
I can't beleive you missed the boy scout road that was right there. Ha Ha There might have been a road there 50 years ago it is now covered by trees.


yea, yea, yea - no road there boys! We were talking two VERY different places! We'll have to visit my location, play in that bowl and see if our boy scout road is there still! BD - I was stuck down in that hole with K. Downs. We were there for 4 hours bangin on that hill before we could find what looked like a road and took it out - snow was deeeeeeep! Hero snow days you can climb outta there no problem :beer;
 
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I am not going to visit ANY location again that doesn't have a 7-11 with-in a half a mile of it! j/k but NO blind leads or guesses in trees ever again.

I love boonbockin' but this took it too far. :) lol

The ride out in that ravine was epic pow. go figure, first tracks. ;) :eek:
 
I’d like to make a comment or two about Spencer and the situation that he led Rock, Tundra, Andre, and Kyle into:

First: we’ve been busting on Spence about this and while some is deserved, including a name change to Huey or NewCLIFFsldr (as much to commemorate the event as anything else), he did a admirable job of trying to wave everyone else off.. we just couldn’t hear over the other sleds.. Bad planning on our part as much as on Spences.

Second: we all sat at the top of the slope and had a chance to say “don’t go” but were having too much fun.

Third: I think most of the group thought we were over Soapstone creek, not Iron Mine creek. I knew we were over Iron Mine but knew nothing of the slope into the bottom…. None of us did, and none of us had a map with us.

Fourth: the teamwork and effort of the five are the only things that kept them from being seriously injured. They all should be congratulated on keeping their heads.

Lastly: Spencer from the very beginning accepted responsibility for what happened and at one point indicated he should pay the entire recovery if it required a helicopter to get the sleds out. That’s a stand up guy. A day or two later I’m again glad to call him my friend (was really rocky on that point most of Saturday).

Next time I’ll be better prepared: Should have had radios; should have had more ropes and rescue equipment; should have had GPS and maps; shouldn’t have gone in blind.

Compared to getting their sleds down the last 600 feet of slope my day was easy.. An hour to get from the point of no return to the ridge above.. hours of working back and forth in the trees and creek bottom to see if there was a way to get them out and a little over an hour getting unstuck in Iron Mine Creek. Stopped every group of sledders I saw to tell them about the boys and see if they had seen them. Put just over 100 miles on my sled looking for them; looking for a way into the creek bottom, and getting S&R up to the drop off point and the head of the creek.

More then glad that one of us was able to get the S&R team. And I want to say our Rangers and Wasatch S&R is the finest bunch of blokes I’ve met in a long time!

Avy ride to Wolf Creek next Saturday (Feb 7th).. the weekend after that? Who knows.. just don’t want to end up calling S & R again.

Chief out
 
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Last tracks for me too in there ever, Ron. Unless called upon to get someone else out and I feel very qualified as you and Hector should too about that! :)

Chief, I agree 100% with you. all the stars alligned to create a mistake. if we did it again it would be a f'up! TEAM effort got us out safe that first day. That includes that one guy who didn't drop in and killed himself trying to get to us. Chief, thank you. Sorry you hurt too bad to be there because the effort and result yesterday was your type of event. we did ya proud.

I sent pics to Spencer and Dunatic to get posted. soon i hope.
 
First pics are from Saturdays decent.

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This was when we knew Chief had made it out OK!

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Sundays pics will be up in a sec.
 
Sunday

Staging

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The way in

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The side Hill

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Coming up out of the bottom

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Few from where the sleds were looking back out

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Doug on the side hill

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EVERYONE OUT SAFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Spencer, did you forget what I taught you?? You take people up that kind of ****, not down!! :D

And just dont tell me you ended up down there because of a left-handed throttle!! LOL You just needed a BOOST to get you out!! ;)
 
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Pictures never do give the credit of how steep things really are. I'm glad everyone made it out safe and I'm glad to see some POWDER there! :D
 
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