08 XP 163...best mountain sled EVER built bar none!!!

[snowmanx]

Exactly

Great title for a thread!
Makes their blood boil if they
don't have one.
Awesome sled so far- only
500 miles- times will tell-
real good times! Glad the
fearful folks round here didn't
scare me away from it.

That's pretty much why I started this thread...got so tired of threads bashing the XP and I thought this would stir the pot.

I don't usually stir the pot but this has been fun!!!!

 

[high time]

You've failed, as your sled has failed.

None of us thought that your sled wouldn't rock. We most all agree. But for far too many the rocking stops. That is not good enough for me and some of the rest of us. I want one, I realy want one, but not yet.
I'm glad that you're happy. I would not be.
Here's for higher standards.

Owen

 

[Luke The Drifter]

I rode an XP for a bit, it was ok, good motor but laying it over is similar to a lightswitch, on or off. I found that there is no in between on these sleds, maybe its just me. The gauge cluster is perty dang cool though, I like it a lot better than the new RMKs/Dragons.

I'll pass, Doo needs to get their act together on clutching and building a reliable motor IMHO.

 

[kitty]

snowmanx, you said skidoo was working on apparent probelms.. they had the same clutching probems as last year. they knew about the clutching issues and yet they didnt fix anyhthing.

 

[SHMO]

I have a suggestion for some of you, And I think you know who you are. Instead of comparing an XP to another sled, Try to type something legible. I am so tired of reading a post that goes something like this, "me an bud M-8 can pipe all day XP running long hill way off. No way XP come ever closed to M1K". WTF does that mean? Are you in such a hurry to share your experience that do not have the extra 2-minutes to use some basic gramar?

Down with XP's...........Up with getting an education. Long live literacy!!

SHMO

 

[oregunrmk]

I have a suggestion for some of you, And I think you know who you are. Instead of comparing an XP to another sled, Try to type something legible. I am so tired of reading a post that goes something like this, "me an bud M-8 can pipe all day XP running long hill way off. No way XP come ever closed to M1K". WTF does that mean? Are you in such a hurry to share your experience that do not have the extra 2-minutes to use some basic gramar?

Down with XP's...........Up with getting an education. Long live literacy!!

SHMO

I totally agree, however its "grammar" not "gramar". Sorry could not resist.

 

[snowmobiler]

bam!

 

[Jcat]

from what i read its pretty hilarious! I don't care if you sled can beat mine or my sled can beat your buddies. Who gives a rip. It's like 3rd grade all over again. "I better then you are not matter what"
All Sleds are great, the xp is new and has it ups and down. so does cat and poo.
Yamaha are heavy but they are very reliable and its your own preference so leave it as that.
from my experience its not the sled its the RIDER 80% of the time.

 

[steveo10]

rider makes the sled

 

[wyoboy]

Holy carp! It'll beat a M1000?
Give me some of what yer smokin'
Rode a XP 154, broke in already, no belt issues in 300 mi anyway.
Other than the steering was REALLY heavy on the trail, something I"d attribute to susp setup, the sled rode great. Different riding position than I'm used to but comfortable.
Beat a M1000????????????? Not on it's best day.

Yes even on the M1000's best day the XP will beat it. Rode with 4 of them and they could not beat the XP. Stock to Stock

 

[SHMO]

I totally agree, however its "grammar" not "gramar". Sorry could not resist.

Dooooh, I knew I should have spell checked that one....hahaha

SHMO

 

[boosted1]

lol

They do run with the 1000's!!!

try clutching the m1000!
properly clutched and we all know cats clutching is brutal, they will chew up and spit out anything stock, no denying 120ft lbs torque.
mine works great! stock, clutched and a can.
Remember a m1000 has huge potential for hp gains, most of the 800's are pretty maxed out for potential.
However there is no replacement for my TPEX!

 

[1100Cat]

WYOBOY your so full of crap,have been reading this whole post and could not resits to jump in any longer. The XP is a good sled once all the issues are adressed like any other first year build. But to say that they have a chance against a M1000 you definitely need to take another hit on that crack pipe bud. Been riding since early October out here in B.C where its plenty deep and steep and have not seen one XP yet run even close to the M1000. Rode again today and had a twin piped M7 in the group putting a hurt on 3 XP's. The M7 in the group could not run with the M1000 not even close but was definitely beating the XP's hands down. Now imagine how the M1000's that could destroy that twin piped M7 in the group make the XP owners look today. Look at the torque curve of a M1000 to an XP800 not even close whatsoever. The horsepower say the least is way more but the torque of a 1000 makes the 800 look anaemic. Add some fresh new fluffy white stuff and a long pull and watch the M1000 Tracker up where an Xp can not even come close to.

 

[pwdrhogRMK800]

WYOBOY your so full of crap,have been reading this whole post and could not resits to jump in any longer. The XP is a good sled once all the issues are adressed like any other first year build. But to say that they have a chance against a M1000 you definitely need to take another hit on that crack pipe bud. Been riding since early October out here in B.C where its plenty deep and steep and have not seen one XP yet run even close to the M1000. Rode again today and had a twin piped M7 in the group putting a hurt on 3 XP's. The M7 in the group could not run with the M1000 not even close but was beating the XP's hands down. Look at the torque curve of a M1000 to an XP800 not even close whatsoever. The horsepower say the least is way more but the torque of a 1000 makes the 800 look anaemic. Add some fresh new fluffy white stuff and a long pull and watch the M1000 Tracker up where an Xp can not even come close to.

x2 100% Agree

 

[Goose Lake]

I have been mostly Yammie and worked hard to lighten and increase power to snow but fell for the new 163 XP. It reminds me of an old Phazer Mtn lite fan (about same weight wise) but with great suspension and 3X the power. I love it. We have been buried in tons of powder here in Western WA and no one follows us. We break the trails and we go in and play all day and no one comes in after us. Light is right. Can I beat a 1000 whatever in a drag? Why would I try? I might...but that is not why I ride. I love to explore and go where no one goes and carve that powder. We have had stuff so deep that when I think I am getting stuck and jump off the back when pushing the sled back up on the snow...you know...I am staring at the bogies...that is how far I sunk. I love this thing...floats like a butterfly and a motor that stings. It really likes to live on top of the snow. I am a lot less tired (I can still walk!) at the end of the day. Light is right. Float is great. Lots of power. So much I can hardly hang on when that track hooks up. Yeah...some issues...sled is worth working them through. I really don't mind. If I did not think much of the sled I would rag on it but I really like it!!! True IDOLATRY. Goose

 

[mark]

I was able to see an XP 153 in action on Saturday, and I was totally impressed!!! We were in waist deep snow with no base and it walked through it with no problem. It may take some time getting used to the sleds tall handle bars, but this thing is an animal.

 

[summitboy]

The 08's are anemic especially in the mid range. Power valves don't open until a lot later as compared to the 2006 Powertec. Hence the great powerband you feel at WOT. This is the price we pay for emissions and sound !

 

[wyoboy]

WYOBOY your so full of crap,have been reading this whole post and could not resits to jump in any longer. The XP is a good sled once all the issues are adressed like any other first year build. But to say that they have a chance against a M1000 you definitely need to take another hit on that crack pipe bud. Been riding since early October out here in B.C where its plenty deep and steep and have not seen one XP yet run even close to the M1000. Rode again today and had a twin piped M7 in the group putting a hurt on 3 XP's. The M7 in the group could not run with the M1000 not even close but was definitely beating the XP's hands down. Now imagine how the M1000's that could destroy that twin piped M7 in the group make the XP owners look today. Look at the torque curve of a M1000 to an XP800 not even close whatsoever. The horsepower say the least is way more but the torque of a 1000 makes the 800 look anaemic. Add some fresh new fluffy white stuff and a long pull and watch the M1000 Tracker up where an Xp can not even come close to.

You are the one smokin crack and crap. Heard it all now, 700's beating XP's too now its getting deep. To bad you live in a fantasy world and I will bet your 1000 ain't stock

 

[chazzer]

My XP runs with the 1000's easily!

16" track is huge not to mention the 80-90 lbs weight reduction!

My 163" does really well for an 8. Like I said, definatly runs with the 1000 but does better then the 900' too!

The suspension is much nicer too!!!

Chaz

 

[boosted1]

Gotta love this sport!

Yes even on the M1000's best day the XP will beat it. Rode with 4 of them and they could not beat the XP. Stock to Stock

I rode in Revy with 5 XP's, 4 163's 1 154" 2 dragon 800's, 2 m1000's, 2 07 rev's 1 modded up m8 and a MCX Nytro

The dragon 800's VERY impressed, certainly made EVERY one of those XP's look silly, best stocker 800 by a mile, Polaris has done a great job on the new dragon 8's, this comming from a guy who last year would have bought any other brand other than a polaris!
My m1000 sno pro stock, properly clutched, schooled all of them handily like it should.
Doo needs to do some work on those XP's, no doubt about it, spent a few days trading back and fourth with the doo boys, power feels good, vibrated like a 900 Poo, side hilled like a tank (light switch is a good comparo, pull to hard falls right over).
the M chassis and the dragon chassis feel very similar, cant beat them.
The turbo nytro with the MCX couldnt beat anyone, lol ran like a stocker, certainly something wrong with it.
The M8 and the M1000 were top dogs.....the M8 had a head...pipe...etc... ran REAL good.

the weekend went real well only one belt and one shaft (tow job) for the XP's
as for everyone else, even the Doo guys were not happy.

Now before all you die hard Doo guys get your panties in a knot, this is an opinion and its mine, I checked a 163" XP last spring and got my money back when I found out it was carbed, bought the trusty 1000, they need to spend some time on the clutching and throw in SDI before I would ever consider one.
As for being the best climbers out there? someone prove me wrong! Dragons ate em up good!

nothing beats the old Synergy powered Apex though! lol