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why you shouldn't use a sled deck on a toyota

well the payload for a tundra is only 200 pounds more then my truck and i have a 1/4 ton or a compact. embarrassing for a "1/2" ton truck to only be 200 pounds more then a compact. that tells you right there the tundra is a joke.

Embarassing for a half ton to have a payload 100lbs shy of a ton..........?
 
Well,,,, missed the mark on a couple of the specs. but the truck is for real.
 
Well what i'm trying to get at is, you can only haul what you rear axle or tires will allow, and usually that is well below actual rating. A sled deck or camper puts hardly any weight on the front axle, making it worse. What I was stating is that my 3500 could only put another 500lbs on the rear axle before i'm up to it's legal limit.

I have no doubt many campers are overloaded, but theres nothing stoping the DOT's from pulling them over, weighting them and telling them it isn't leaving until it's legal weight. It won't be long before they crack down on recreational, BC is strict on welding trucks, I know one person who was 300lbs overloaded and they had to take off a bottle and get someone else to pick it up for them.

My biggest point is that people with 1/2 tons are kidding themselves with a deck loaded, when 1 tons are near tipping the scale heavy.

I think maybe you might want to put some "E" range tires on yer truck or the dot where you are at don't have a clue about how to read weight ratings. Most "E" ratings are over 3000# per tire. So a single axle 1 ton(which I believe is a waste of time compared to a dually) would give 6000# on the rear axle. Find it hard to believe that a bed and two yamis get close to that. And a dually could handle much more. We run overload springs on our f350's just to get the ride height closer to normal. I pull goosenecks weighing 20,000# + truck weight of 12,000# for a total of 32,000# gcvw. All legal!!!
 
I think maybe you might want to put some "E" range tires on yer truck or the dot where you are at don't have a clue about how to read weight ratings. Most "E" ratings are over 3000# per tire. So a single axle 1 ton(which I believe is a waste of time compared to a dually) would give 6000# on the rear axle. Find it hard to believe that a bed and two yamis get close to that. And a dually could handle much more. We run overload springs on our f350's just to get the ride height closer to normal. I pull goosenecks weighing 20,000# + truck weight of 12,000# for a total of 32,000# gcvw. All legal!!!

My tires are rated for about 3700lbs each, but it doesn't mean anything, because the axle is rated for a 6,150. A dually can't really haul that much more anyways, and you do know the only difference between a 3/4 and a 1 ton SRW is overloads on most trucks right? I'm not saying your one of them, but most people don't have a clue what is legal, I could put 50,000kg GCVWR on my truck and lisence it for that, but it doesn't mean it's legal when DOT checks your weight. Your tire rating, axle rating, certain amount of weight per sq inch of tire is what DOT cares about.

And yes, my King Cat and a Mach Z, steel deck and my Dodge 3500 CTD tipped the scales at 10,000. 5900 rear axle weight. However my truck has lift, bigger tires, running boards and many other things that have probably added an extra 400lbs or so. It's not hard to hit 6,000 on the rear axle when empty it's about 3,600. To clear all the doubt, i'm going to go weight my truck tomorrow without the sleds and deck.
 
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SNOW JW, the air bags may allow a 1/2 ton to carry a deck and two sleds in theory. However, I would lay money down that anyone that does that is exceeding the legal GVW for that truck. Air bags, add-a-leafs, etc. do not change the GVW. Brakes, steering components, and tires are all being overloaded. IMHO, your just better off to buy the right truck for the job right from the start.


90% of Chevy half tones tow better than most 3/4 ford and dodges with or with out air bags. I have a friend with a lifted 04 3/4 ford power stroke and its the biggest POS ever.

My 1996 Chevy 1500 tows the same travel trailer as his does and gets better mpg, handles better, doesn't squat as much, and still handles good.
 
I'm not sure of the payloads of Toyotas now, but my 2000 would not legally hold that much weight. They may be full half ton rated nowdays.

As far as American vs. import. My Toyota was made in the USA, my current truck, a Ford F350 was made in Mexico.

I can't compare loads between the two because it's not fair for a 1/2 ton or less to compare to a 1 ton diesel. But my Tundra was the best riding truck I ever owned. If you just want a daily driver for comfort with a bed to carry stuff every now and then, I would go with a Tundra any day over any "American" truck. As far as my one ton, unloaded it rides like a wagon, but remember it is a one ton.

If Toyota ever comes out with a 1 ton, I will get in line. Even if the suspension is softer, it's a compromise for ride quality. The best answer is to put in an adjustable suspension to get the best of both worlds.
 
I will have to go in to work and see what the axle ratings are on my f350 as I can't remember the numbers. I do know that the truck alone can weigh 18,000# as per door sticker which is the axle ratings.
So there must be a huge difference between the fords(dually) and dodges(single)? I am thinking that I can put 12000# on my rear and 6000# on my front. And believe me when I say the dot here in montana have and continue to try to get us for violations. But we are making weight.
 
I will have to go in to work and see what the axle ratings are on my f350 as I can't remember the numbers. I do know that the truck alone can weigh 18,000# as per door sticker which is the axle ratings.
So there must be a huge difference between the fords(dually) and dodges(single)? I am thinking that I can put 12000# on my rear and 6000# on my front. And believe me when I say the dot here in montana have and continue to try to get us for violations. But we are making weight.

If it's a F350, there in no way it's 18k, it's probably 12k for the WHOLE truck.
 
That Toyota diesel has been around for a while, they had it at the 2007 SEMA show. I imagine the rediculous price of fuel kept it from being built. How about a truck that tows like a 5.9 Cummins with a six speed and ride like a Tacoma that come stock with 35's and lockers. Oh ya and over 20 mpg.
 
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