Yeah I was very disappointed with the dmax.
why you shouldn't use a sled deck on a toyota
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The Dodge is 10x the truck if you actually work it. The only complaints people can say is front end problems or bad ride quality
IFS just isn't made for hauling anymore then groceries.
I can't speak for your Dodge, but the F350 I tow with weighs in @ 7600# with a passenger, a full tank of fuel and a small dog. the GVWR is 13,000#. I would challenge you to find me 2 sleds, a deck, and i don't care how much gear you want to throw in to take up the remaining 5400#'s. But whatever, 'nuff said. Just don't put a deck on your 1/2ton!!!
And to chime in on the Toyota deal, we have a good size fleet, and the Tundras and Titans have been a notch or two above the domestics in most categories. I do have a dislike for the blind spots in the Tundra however.
toyota should be embarrassed with their tundra. its not even a 1/2 ton truck. its inbetween a 1/4 ton and a 1/2 ton
I can't speak for your Dodge, but the F350 I tow with weighs in @ 7600# with a passenger, a full tank of fuel and a small dog. the GVWR is 13,000#. I would challenge you to find me 2 sleds, a deck, and i don't care how much gear you want to throw in to take up the remaining 5400#'s. But whatever, 'nuff said. Just don't put a deck on your 1/2ton!!!
And to chime in on the Toyota deal, we have a good size fleet, and the Tundras and Titans have been a notch or two above the domestics in most categories. I do have a dislike for the blind spots in the Tundra however.
Were are you getting the 12k numbers? I am going off the number that they are legally allowed 10,500. My trucked weighted in a hair over 10,000, the Cummins is a bit heavier then the other trucks from your numbers, but you'd be pushing 11k if you have 2 on the deck, and 6 people in the cab, and tounge weight from a 4 place. You also have to consider rear axle weight, my rear axle was 5700 out of the 10,000lbs. Unless it's a dually, but even then I think they are only about 500lbs more, and they weight quite a bit more.
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Each to his own. You could of got a lemon. I've had good luck with mine. 400000. km. on one no major issues except a rear diff. and 30000km on the other with minor issues.
thats cause the truck cant make it to 50k before it falls apart.
So you had an 07 or 08 Tundra then? Ever hauled something with one? Been in one? Felt how hard it pulls?
Is your opinion based on absolutely nothing......or are you 13?
Wow their info sucks, it says 13k, but also 4910 max load capacity and nothing else. Although I find it hard to believe a Ford F-350 dually diesel weights only 7k full of fuel everything, while my SRW Dodge is easily 7.5k. The only rating that matters is your tires and axles though, if your 11k you could be overloaded if you've got to much on the rear axle, which is the likely case. Because my rear axle weight was only 500lbs left, which is why I said only got about 500lbs left.
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The 7600# is from an actual weight at a DOT scale, not from their info... Ford claims just under 7100#..... but thats likely tare weight with the usual 1/4 tank of fuel and a 150# driver. I will have a look at the rear axle weight... As a side note, a lot of the camper units you commonly see on these trucks weigh 3500# and higher!!!
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Lot's of info in your posts Cyle, but you're splitting hairs. Damn near every camper unit out there on a truck is "overloaded"...
Sled decks and sleds don't compare (and no, I don't have one.... I actually run heavy)Tire ratings DO matter though.. Guy's that run on the heavy end need to insure their tires can take it. Sidewall failure, etc, is pretty common from running heavy and driving fast.
well the payload for a tundra is only 200 pounds more then my truck and i have a 1/4 ton or a compact. embarrassing for a "1/2" ton truck to only be 200 pounds more then a compact. that tells you right there the tundra is a joke.
Lot's of info in your posts Cyle, but you're splitting hairs. Damn near every camper unit out there on a truck is "overloaded"...
Tire ratings DO matter though.. Guy's that run on the heavy end need to insure their tires can take it. Sidewall failure, etc, is pretty common from running heavy and driving fast.
Well what i'm trying to get at is, you can only haul what you rear axle or tires will allow, and usually that is well below actual rating. A sled deck or camper puts hardly any weight on the front axle, making it worse. What I was stating is that my 3500 could only put another 500lbs on the rear axle before i'm up to it's legal limit.
I have no doubt many campers are overloaded, but theres nothing stoping the DOT's from pulling them over, weighting them and telling them it isn't leaving until it's legal weight. It won't be long before they crack down on recreational, BC is strict on welding trucks, I know one person who was 300lbs overloaded and they had to take off a bottle and get someone else to pick it up for them.
My biggest point is that people with 1/2 tons are kidding themselves with a deck loaded, when 1 tons are near tipping the scale heavy.
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most of the parts on your domestic vehicle are made in japan already, and half tons with sled decks won't pass bc inspection most of the time
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Pretty cool test to check out the handling and durability in really rough conditions.
It is but sadly they are done by the truck companies and of course, they are going to show their truck is the best. It would be nice if a indepedent company that didn't take bribes tested out each truck 100% unbiased to see how they actually do, but it will never happen.
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