who's turbo is best?????

[roostnxp]

I'm gonna snow check a pro for the fall and want to run a turbo setup on it. What is the best one? Silber, BD, HM? Some claim the ability to run more boost than others. Does more boost= more breakdown? I just don't want to be fixing my sled all the time. I've been riding an xp for the past 4 years, so I'm sick of being a mechanic. I just want a sled than runs good all the time.
Anyone have experience with all three?

 

[Hotboat]

I'm gonna snow check a pro for the fall and want to run a turbo setup on it. What is the best one? Silber, BD, HM? Some claim the ability to run more boost than others. Does more boost= more breakdown? I just don't want to be fixing my sled all the time. I've been riding an xp for the past 4 years, so I'm sick of being a mechanic. I just want a sled than runs good all the time.
Anyone have experience with all three?

Ditto....Im doing the same thing. I will be watching this thread....Im leaning HM...

 

[DV-ENT]

Ive been considering the same move and have read alot regarding turbo kits and turbo builders. These days they have most kits all running well, that being said the one thing that always seems to be of most importance is set up and SERVICE! Having someone who is there for you not just when you need them but everytime you need them. I have heard and read about alot of really good tuners and one name that continually keeps coming up over the years is Shane Stanger from Twisted Turbos, I had the pleasure of meeting him last season, he is one of the nicest guys and very passionate about his craft which to me says alot... just my 2 cents. good luck with your choice as well as your build!

 

[RMK-King]

I know that silbers kits have been running flawless on the Pros this year, he found a way to get instant throttle response and little adjustment is needed on elevation changes. A 100% bolt on kit is nice to.

 

[roostnxp]

I was also considering a twisted setup, but the dealership selling me the sled deals with boondocker for razors and has done one pro. They will be dealing with people they know at BD. Would you say a BD system is the best?

 

[Kestrel2126]

I have not rode anyone else's turbo setup on a Pro, but I can tell you from owning one, the Boondocker kit is awesome! Personally, I like the Garrett turbo the best, I like that they use a proprietary fuel control box/programmer, rather than the Dobeck platform, the ADA is a big plus IMO, as is the EBC. I also really like the Tunnel dump exhaust.
Just my 2 cents

 

[theshadowrider]

I love my BD dragon. The EBC is awesome. You set your boost and its always at the boost you want. Set 8 lbs and it will stay at 8 lbs all day. I think is a sweet feature. The push to pass is awesome. I hooked it up to a switch so I just flip a switch to get more boost. I have mine set at 8 and then if I think I will need more I hit the switch to go to 10. If I still can't make it, which is rare, I put 12 in the ebc. No guessing on the boost plus it builds boost fast by keeping the waste gate closed until hitting boost number you set. I like the ability to pull my stats off the fuel control box and know my charge temps, rmps, injector duty cycle. Tunnel dump is awesome for never bogging in any condition. Call Justin at Code Red and he will get you hooked up.

Turbo sled can be very reliable but you need to do your homework on what maintenance items need to be taken care of. I look at these sleds like I do an aircraft and you want to change and replace things before you are someone you don't want a failure. They defiantly have more preventative maintenance that needs to be done. If your idea of being a mechanic is its a pain to put oil in it, "and the thing keeps running out of gas," then I would not recommend a turbo kit. If you don't mind tinkering a little bit and enjoy working on a sled a little bit, then they are sweet. If you get a Boondockers kit you can PM or call me and I will tell you things that I have learned with mine.

 

[Arcteryx]

I love my BD dragon. The EBC is awesome. You set your boost and its always at the boost you want. Set 8 lbs and it will stay at 8 lbs all day. I think is a sweet feature. The push to pass is awesome. I hooked it up to a switch so I just flip a switch to get more boost. I have mine set at 8 and then if I think I will need more I hit the switch to go to 10. If I still can't make it, which is rare, I put 12 in the ebc. No guessing on the boost plus it builds boost fast by keeping the waste gate closed until hitting boost number you set. I like the ability to pull my stats off the fuel control box and know my charge temps, rmps, injector duty cycle. Tunnel dump is awesome for never bogging in any condition. Call Justin at Code Red and he will get you hooked up.

Turbo sled can be very reliable but you need to do your homework on what maintenance items need to be taken care of. I look at these sleds like I do an aircraft and you want to change and replace things before you are someone you don't want a failure. They defiantly have more preventative maintenance that needs to be done. If your idea of being a mechanic is its a pain to put oil in it, "and the thing keeps running out of gas," then I would not recommend a turbo kit. If you don't mind tinkering a little bit and enjoy working on a sled a little bit, then they are sweet. If you get a Boondockers kit you can PM or call me and I will tell you things that I have learned with mine.

I pretty much agree with Kestrel and Shadow rider. The BD kit has some things that I really like. EBC, ADA, push to pass, tunnel dump, ability to read charge temps from control box. As far as who's is best, I still think that remains to be seen. I would love to get a BD, Silber, and HM together one of these days and see how they do. I live in Northern Utah and have a BD kit so if anyone has one of the others and wants to go ride, let me know.

If you do buy a BD kit, X2 no X10 on buying from Justin at code red!! He is great to work with.

 

[roostnxp]

I don't mind maintenance, but we have 7 xps in our group and I Can't remember the last time we rode all day without having one fail on us. We have replaced just about every part on those dang things. It takes the fun out of riding if there is always the worry of breaking down, plus it gets spendy. All the time and money spent fixing I could have bought a new sled, I just don't want to relive that experience. My friends are very sceptical about a Turbo when our stock sleds break so much. I will never hear the end of it if it doesn't run good and I'm tinkering with it all the time.

 

[theshadowrider]

As long as you have a solid platform before you turbo it. I would recommend buying a pro and putting a couple hundred miles on it to get the new sled bugs worked out, or to make sure it doesn't have new sled bugs. If it's running good and solid before the turbo, then it will rip after the turbo.

 

[INKEDRIDER]

all of this is great advise but unfortunately I will guarantee that you will have some sort of problems with any kit. If your looking for turn key don't buy one. You must have a passion for the sport and like tuning and wrenching before you will be able to appreciate a great running sled it's not easy and I still own more than one sled I have three. Here's a test that my uncle taught me light a 100 dollar bill on fire and if you put it out your not ready.

 

[jeepin270]

all of this is great advise but unfortunately I will guarantee that you will have some sort of problems with any kit. If your looking for turn key don't buy one. You must have a passion for the sport and like tuning and wrenching before you will be able to appreciate a great running sled it's not easy and I still own more than one sled I have three. Here's a test that my uncle taught me light a 100 dollar bill on fire and if you put it out your not ready.

Soo true!
If I had it to do all over again, I would probably lean towards hm turbo. Silber was great in the beginning but it took a yr for him to give me a fuel controller that would wrk for my sled. Now his custermer service is pretty much nonexistent.

 

[modrmk]

I would go with the BD kit. I have been riding and building them for three years now. They are extremly reliable and problem free. The control box coupled with the EBC makes this a fantastic kit. I have one on a 08 dragon with 3500 boosted miles and no problems with the kit. If you have any questions, I am located in southwest WY. and build and sell BD turbos. Visit my website or call Brett at 307-828-9064. www.the-sled-shop.com

 

[Silber]

Soo true!
If I had it to do all over again, I would probably lean towards hm turbo. Silber was great in the beginning but it took a yr for him to give me a fuel controller that would wrk for my sled. Now his custermer service is pretty much nonexistent.

Answering my phone after hours, sending you free parts and upgrades. When you were getting your sled dynoed, you called but I was out west riding with no service, so you sent me a text message which came through, I ditched everyone that I was riding with, went back to the truck drove 20 miles into town to get serviced and call you and your dyno man. I guess thats not customer service.

 

[jeepin270]

I apologize, I wasn't trying to bash u. I just felt like u gave up on helping me. It took me 2 seasons to get my sled dialed in. Do u know how frustrating it is to drive 6 hrs countless times only to turn around an go back home because my sled wouldn't run right? I know that all the problems that I had were not related to ur kit. Yes, I agree u did answer most of my calls and reply to txt's.

 

[jeepin270]

What disappointed me the most is that u never returned Dynotech calls, he never dialed in in a Attitude fuel controller before. I drove over a thousand miles and paid for 12 dyno runs. I let u know a week ahead of time. U told me u would be available. U did return my call that day, it would've been nice if could've called Jim before my sled was sitting on the dyno.

 

[standup06]

Well after owning many turbo sleds, and riding almost everything on the market.

My Silber Turbo setups has been outstanding. If you purchase anything else your just wasting your money. Silbers price is the best out there for what you get.

My last trip I rode for 3 straight weeks. Rode every single day on my 2011 rmk with a silber turbo kit, and never had to do anything turbo related to it. Besides add a few ounces of oil to the turbo oil tank, boo hoo. Never touched the control box, and just plain stopped watching the gauges, as it wasnt necessary anymore. Sled flat out works amazing. It also probably one of the nicest looking kits. All ceramic and polished parts. I rode out west, and now have it back minnesota and have been riding, and I didnt even have to adjust the box, it works here too.

Silber is the only way to go, if looking to turbo a PRO.

James

 

[inthetrees123]

all of this is great advise but unfortunately I will guarantee that you will have some sort of problems with any kit. If your looking for turn key don't buy one. You must have a passion for the sport and like tuning and wrenching before you will be able to appreciate a great running sled it's not easy and I still own more than one sled I have three. Here's a test that my uncle taught me light a 100 dollar bill on fire and if you put it out your not ready.

My buddy and I both purchased the BD pump gas standard kits this past fall. He is on a pro and I have a M8. My M8 was 100% install, add gas, and ride. I rode for at least 4 weekends before I ever even looked at my fuel box. The only reason why I did was to help my fuel mileage. It always ran 100% perfect right out of the box. I just kept an eye on my plugs and noticed that they were showing pretty rich so I took a couple of points out to help with fuel mileage. I read all the time on here that people say there is no such thing as a problem free turbo kit. My M8 kit from bd has been 100% problem free and turn key.

Now my buddy with the pro ... he had the first original box from bd before the new 3d programming. Install went real smooth and quick. But it didn't run perfect out of the box. It ran pretty good but not what anyone would describe as perfect. He played with numbers and it still never really got better. Then he did the upgrade with bd for that 3d programming box.... after he plugged that in it has ran awesome! He just needed to add like a couple of points up high and take a few away down low and it has ran solid!

My buddy and I are very very far away from anything that would be considered experts in tuning. In fact these two sleds were the first things we have ever tried to tune ever in our lifes! We have both ridding these sleds every weekend since Dec 17th and they both flat out rip with 0 issues. Any normal non turner can own a bd kit. We don't even have the ebc. We both have the plain non - cooled pump gas kits with the manual boost controller. NO other fancy items. I know that was long winded but I hope this helps.

 

[Ryanlilly]

Although I dont have a HM turbo kit, I did buy a used kit from a different manufacturer from Shane at HM turbos. As far as customer service goes he has been EXCELLENT! Every time I call he takes the time to answer my questions, if he is unavailable he has always called back. I would purchase another kit from him in a heart beat!

 

[Timbre]

Although I dont have a HM turbo kit, I did buy a used kit from a different manufacturer from Shane at HM turbos. As far as customer service goes he has been EXCELLENT! Every time I call he takes the time to answer my questions, if he is unavailable he has always called back. I would purchase another kit from him in a heart beat!

I am happy you had a good experience with HM Turbos. My experience was precisely the opposite. Took him over 3 months to reply to my email. Rarely, if ever, answered the phone. Left messages...no call back, until days or weeks later. Still cannot, in good conscience, recommend HM to anyone!!