who posted this pic of the 2 shot wolves?

[nuckinfuts]

Gray/ Timber not a real difference. Re-introducing capital predators to an area that has not had them for 50+ years is a bad idea, the whole ecosystem has adjusted and will be destroyed by said re-introduction. Left unchecked (by us, predators), will hamper the existance of humans. I can't speak for you down south but here in Alaska, we don't herd beef, sheep, etc. We religh on the moose and caribou herds to feed our childeren, wives and elders. Wolves, and bears have been unchecked untill recently and have devistated our herds. I have whitnessed Wolves KILLING caribou just to teach their young to hunt (nothing harvested), that pack is much smaller now... I have watched bears follow pregnant cows (moose) just to eat the young as it is born... does that fit in with your perfect world? Wolves are nessesary to a healthy way of culling a herd, but left unchecked will starve us out. I ask you folks to educate your self on reality, not propoganda. It was thought at one time that fighting forest fires to the end was best, then not fighting them at all was best....

Those are deffinatly Gray Wolves introduced to your area, You have no idea what they are willing to do to eat. They are masters at what they do and are now in an area where the local game is unawhere, and F&G/DNR has set you all up for a good time. God speed to you all, and your deer and elk, cows, sheep, goats, rabbits, grouse, chickens, turkeys whatever...

 

[Zachcreek]

Good point.


Hey needspeed. Want to go hunting with me in Yellowstone? Let’s cross country ski in. Dump a few wolves and be on our way. We will skip the whole broke back mountain part ( I’m not saying being gay is wrong… its just not quite right)

Hey Zach. You strike me as a guy who would marry a girl who doesn't shave because it’s sexist for men to expect women to shave... Let me guess. You like bottled water, Toyota, and Osama...or Obama... or..well however you pronounce that towel head’s last name.

LOL, pullin the monkeys chain. Republican, Dodge products, buy American when I can. All American. Girlfriend, member of the NRA, Pro fly fishing guide. We also collect military arms as well as old western armament.

But nice for you to show your ignorant sterotyping. You are certainly a master of ignorance.

Actually the more I learn from the intelligent converstaions on this 4m. The more I realize the mistake that F&G, DNR and possibly the DOW in Colorado may have committed. Yep, 51 years old and still have the insight to take others opinion and change my viewpoint through intelligent conversation. You should try it.

needspeed, get some new material. The pork chop comment, come on Jethro, move on to 7th grade. Maybe you could become a double not spy.

Chain pulled again.

 

[Needspeed]

Get it right, its a classic with a twist. Besides I had to keep it simple, I did stoop to your level. Your pretty transparent, you say your a Rep. drive a Dodge etc. etc. We all know you drve a Prius eat tofue and cry and pray for trees that have been cut down by loggers. While millions of trees die from pine beetles because people like you won't let the BLM spray for the damn things. You cn call me what evr names your immature mind can come up with but the truth is you lack the ability to use common unbiased sense. So go to a forum that suits your beliefs and let us get to back to talking about sledding and hunting. Its what we do and we do it well!!! People like you will have our mountains closed down soon and we will all be stuck home.

 

[Needspeed]

Has anyone else noticed that when wolves are in the area that deer and elk do not rut the same, the smell that the females use to signal they are ready attracts the wolves. So instead of being somewat relaxed, thet are on edge and every little sound sends them running. They are a virus and we are the cure.

 

[Clarke673]

LOL, pullin the monkeys chain. Republican, Dodge products, buy American when I can. All American. Girlfriend, member of the NRA, Pro fly fishing guide. We also collect military arms as well as old western armament.

But nice for you to show your ignorant sterotyping. You are certainly a master of ignorance.

Actually the more I learn from the intelligent converstaions on this 4m. The more I realize the mistake that F&G, DNR and possibly the DOW in Colorado may have committed. Yep, 51 years old and still have the insight to take others opinion and change my viewpoint through intelligent conversation. You should try it.

needspeed, get some new material. The pork chop comment, come on Jethro, move on to 7th grade. Maybe you could become a double not spy.

Chain pulled again.

I guess your not so bad... i was just siring the pot lol.

 

[NoCoastNesse]

fyi- Wolves are already in Colrado and have been for a few years. A wolf was killed on the highway just 15 miles west of Denver 2 years ago, it was a Yellowstone "tagged" wolf.

Just in the last 6 months there have been wolves heard, and spotted in White River Nat. Forrest up on the Flat Tops.

They are here, and will be for sometime. As far as right or wrong on introduction......

<shrugs>

We need Bison and Grizzlies too.....

 

[scotty5150]

dude those things r huge!!!

 

[Zachcreek]

I guess your not so bad... i was just siring the pot lol.

Same here, I really dont think the wolves have a place for keeping the balance of nature. Sorry, just like to pull chains every once in a while to create debate. Debate creates viewpoints and education. I may not agree with you on all the issues, but I have to respect your opinion.
needforspeed - I'm all about love man. Peace out.

 

[Clarke673]

fyi-
<shrugs>

We need Bison and Grizzlies too.....

I would rather have a buffalo or a griz in my back yard then a wolf.

 

[Zachcreek]

I have actually had an encounter with a Griz in the Beartooth range. I nearly crapped my pants. I think that is why he/she left me alone. I surprised him/her, I did not stop to ask for a check of gender. I talked to him/her. I called him Bob. Not sure, but that my have done it. And nothing but frickin luck. What a magnificent animal.

Black Bear scat smells like berry's and has nuts in it.
Grizzly Bear scat smells like pepper spray and has bells in it.

 

[cat]

Anyone who believes in reintroducing them into the wildlife should be slapped in the face


The only reason Yellowstone introduced the wolves is because they simply wanted more people to come to the park. I HATE hippies so much its not healthy.

I believe every natural wolf should be left alone and we should go around popping every single wolf that was introduced in the head and leave them lying where they were shot so coyotes can get some food back and the nutrients from them will turn into edible grass for our elk and deer.

Then you will have your "natural" wildlife.

I'm sorry but wolves were not introduced in yellowstone to attract hippies. Wolves were introduced in order to control bison and elk populations. Hunting is illegal in ALL national parks, so there needs to be another method to control these animals. If anyone has ever been to yellowstone in the winter, you would see that the elk and bison numbers were clearly out of control. When this many animals migrate down into the lowlands at one time it leads to habitat destruction and inbreeding. If left unmanaged, the overabundance of large herbivores could potentially turn the park into a cattle pasture.
Wolves in yellowstone do what hunters do elsewhere; they effectively control big game populations. I believe that outside of the parks they should be legal to hunt simply to control their population. Hunters are just as at fault for falling elk numbers outside the park because they kill the food wolves prey on. In these areas, either wolf or hunter numbers need to be decreased. My vote goes for a wolf hunting season.

Secondly, all wolves we are talking about are timber wolves. There is no such thing as a monster canadian grey wolf. Grey wolves are present all around the world and they are just called Timber Wolves in the the northern US and Canada. Believe it or not, mexican wolves are still considered to be grey wolves. Size of wolves is determined by the nutrition, not where the individual wolf came from.
Wolves (like many other species such as elk, bison, pronghorn, etc.) were at one time present throughout the US until extensive hunting killed them all off.
Also, ranchers are paid off by the US government if they have a documented wolf kill, so farmers should not be too concerned with the presence of wolves around their farm. hell if i was a farmer id be putting my calves on a platter for the wolves to kill...that way i wouldnt have to put forth the effort into letting the calves grow! Farmers are not allowed to kill any wolf that is threatening their livestock, but the government has an animal control program to take care of these problematic individuals. What i want to know is where do i sign up to wack wolves out of a helicopter?

I don't think wolves need to be considered an endangered species. I think they need to be managed just like any other game species to allow for a sustainable hunting season.

 

[gonehuntnpowder]

There is no wolves in Wyoming, Obama won't raise your taxes, and I have a really great piece of property outside Cheyenne for sale, you can see the Snowy Range from the back deck, and the Gulf of Mexico out the bay windows. No money down, you can use your bailout money.