They killed 2 of my father in laws calves last night. The MT fish and game are on it, last time he lost calves they shot 5 and dumped them out of the chopper at his house. Montana game wardens aren't too attached to those monsters, but they're held hostage by the feds.
who posted this pic of the 2 shot wolves?
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theultrarider
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Well put mtnpull! I have never met a non-hunter that cares more for the animals than a hunter does. Nonhunters also seem to have no idea what so ever how much money for conservation progress comes from the pockets of hunters.
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Your kidding right.........those are not timber wolves!!!
Timber wolves are native in this area, and are much smaller..... those there are grey wolves introduced from up north and are a non-native killing machine.....they sport kill and have wiped out the native timber wolves
wolves vs. elk in north yellowstone
take a gander at this video...makes a hunter pissed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoH9GvEgxwI
take a gander at this video...makes a hunter pissed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoH9GvEgxwI
it just goes to show that humans trying to change the way nature should be sorry were not smarter then god or nature how ever you want to look at it.
holy @$*& those are frickin huge !! what the hell are you guys feeding those things down there ? They are bigger then half the black bears up here in AK ..
Congrats to them..
Congrats to them..
Your kidding right.........those are not timber wolves!!!
Timber wolves are native in this area, and are much smaller..... those there are grey wolves introduced from up north and are a non-native killing machine.....they sport kill and have wiped out the native timber wolves
Greys, my mistake. So are the ranchers allowed to shoot them if they threaten their livestock? Don't know how your laws work down there. Seems to stupid that the population was allowed to get so out of hand.
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PowderGirl
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Wow! They are huge!
You are right on about the Timber Wolf - they were a "stay out of our way" wolf. They were always around yet we only came across their tracks and feces out in the remote backcountry. Today, several packs of wolves can be heard howling at once in the evenings near my family's place in the central mountains of Idaho. We no longer see herds of elk and deer grazing in the meadow in front of the house like we used to - instead, my family has witnessed wolves taking down a mature elk near where my childhood swing set used to reside in the front yard and another just beyond at the forefront of the meadow. They are brave animals! However, they are beautiful animals and I do respect them as a species but I dont understand why they were introduced to our area and not managed properly to maintain a healthy balance of our wildlife? They are out of hand in certain areas. Not even the coyotes ever seemd to be in abundance as these "re-introduced" wolves are.
You are right on about the Timber Wolf - they were a "stay out of our way" wolf. They were always around yet we only came across their tracks and feces out in the remote backcountry. Today, several packs of wolves can be heard howling at once in the evenings near my family's place in the central mountains of Idaho. We no longer see herds of elk and deer grazing in the meadow in front of the house like we used to - instead, my family has witnessed wolves taking down a mature elk near where my childhood swing set used to reside in the front yard and another just beyond at the forefront of the meadow. They are brave animals! However, they are beautiful animals and I do respect them as a species but I dont understand why they were introduced to our area and not managed properly to maintain a healthy balance of our wildlife? They are out of hand in certain areas. Not even the coyotes ever seemd to be in abundance as these "re-introduced" wolves are.
I believe those were shot in Canada..
Killed on a controlled hunt, Big Piney and Pinedale, Wyoming
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Zachcreek
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Have to agree on this one. Note: I am not anti-Hunting, pro-management, etc. Hunters contribute more to the wildlife than the anti-hunting groups. I just react to the kill them all statement. The big boys from Canada, are not native. Native species for re-introduction fine. As populated as Colorado is the Canadian wolves would only be a huge problem. Not sure why they have put those animals in Wyoming. The pictures posted "Dances with Wolves" show animals that are huge predators. Over populated packs of those will wipe out heards of Elk and when they are gone, the calves on ranches.
Don't assume that I do nothing for wildlife. Management is the key to survival of all species.
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Zachcreek
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I have admit that the wolves that I would like to see, (in certain areas controlled, managed) would not be the Grey's. You guys in ID,Wy and Mt have a problem with them. DOW did not do anybody any favors by introducing Grey's into that area. That was not a re-introduction as pointed out by some of the other members.
We have problems with Mtn Lions on the front range with people building in there habitat. Dog, kids and hikers are being attacked more and more. I could only imagine putting Grey's down here. The population base would be in danger. I do support native species, not just putting wolves (generic term) in an area.
We have problems with Mtn Lions on the front range with people building in there habitat. Dog, kids and hikers are being attacked more and more. I could only imagine putting Grey's down here. The population base would be in danger. I do support native species, not just putting wolves (generic term) in an area.
Your kidding right.........those are not timber wolves!!!
Timber wolves are native in this area, and are much smaller..... those there are grey wolves introduced from up north and are a non-native killing machine.....they sport kill and have wiped out the native timber wolves
What the hell does this have to do with snowmobiling? Maybe this ought to be in fouled plug?
I hate it when animals (people) kill for sport. Maybe it would be OK if the wolves at least took the Calves heads and hung them in their den. I just wonder how did nature ever survive in balance before benevolent mankind stepped in to save all the poor, defenseless species that the wolves were destroying for 1000's of years. I am sure it was the wolves that killed off the millions of buffalo that used to roam our country, not the fur traders.
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Anyone who believes in reintroducing them into the wildlife should be slapped in the face
Trust me; i live next to Yellowstone Park. The wolves, bison, global warming, snowmobiles causing pollution thing is packed full of so much bull**** that i honestly can not stand anyone who believes in it. These “scientist” who are simply hired to say what ever they hell people want them to are ruining America. Now with Osama in office I really think we will see some “change”
IF you want wolves in Colorado, take ours PLEASE! I as a local went elk hunting this year 6-7 times and only had a chance to shoot 3 small elk and i let my friend shoot the only 6 point we ever found and it was nothing great.
People like to think they are so important that they can affect nature and they never stop to think that maybe they are not god. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, that animal could no longer survive in that area and that Mother Nature took them off the map for a reason. Well by putting them back in we are definitely affecting nature.
The only reason Yellowstone introduced the wolves is because they simply wanted more people to come to the park. I HATE hippies so much its not healthy.
I believe every natural wolf should be left alone and we should go around popping every single wolf that was introduced in the head and leave them lying where they were shot so coyotes can get some food back and the nutrients from them will turn into edible grass for our elk and deer.
Then you will have your "natural" wildlife.
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Zachcreek
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Wow tuff guy, slap away. As stated before, the Grey's were a mistake. Reading has to be tough for you. Intelligent conversation, without nothing but narrow minded rhetoric is something that you obviously lack. Just for fun and your self enjoyment....you are right and will always be right. I would like to have a battle of wits with you, but I will not fight an unarmed man.
Trophy hunters actually care about the wildlife and pride themselves on their ethics and preservation of the game they hunt. It is the poachers that kill for sport! I think you could use to educate yourself on the matter before spitting out your poor judgements.
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