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Well, Obama has won it, how do you feel?

The silver lining here may be that more people who normally are ignorant of the plight of keeping land open will now get involved.

It was amazing to me to hear the stories from the SAWS booth at the WA Snow Show how many people couldn't be bothered with signing up for SAWS...which is FREE!!!

Dig Hole, Insert Head, Replace Sand!!!

Wade, Beels, Skinner, Anziconda, thanks for the donations and commitment to get involved!! :beer; :beer; :beer; :beer; (one for each of ya!!).

i also joined saws about a month ago and i am a poor college kid and i found a way to donate! if you like to ride please donate guys! our sport and in some cases people's lives/income depends on it.
 
I feel like somebody just died and we are at a funeral .............................

That is it exactly, I never will feel quite the same about our country but I do hope for the best. I will keep my oar in. I am not going to sit by and see him run it into the ground and do nothing. One thing, I will support the NRA more than I have in the past.
 
you always make me feel loved on snowest moose....:D:p

You know me, such a giving lover:face-icon-small-sho:)

With all due respect (which probably doesn't account for much), we as conservatives need to spend some time looking at what we are - the Rebulbican party strayed big time here, sold out to the moderate coalition, and we ended up running the R.I.N.O with nearly expected results.

We were out run, time to re-group and plan a better offense.
Conservative values won here: Obama ran as a tax cutter, McCain is a moderate at best and did not gain his own party's support.

We need to look inside, and do better.
Now, we've got time.

Scary.

Yes sir! Its too bad that the McCain camp didn't just speak straight. Skip the name calling and layout the problem and how they were going to fix them. Then say, "If you don't agree with my solution, FU and your families too. Next issue"

What I don't understand is why the RNC trotted out an old war horse (with a bum arm) to go up against a young, relatively unknown, well coifed, well spoken, untested in DC, democratic male. Remember how it turned out last time. Sometimes I wonder if the powers that be set it up that way.

Don't be so sure.......with a democrat controlled congress and white house, anything can happen. Most just vote along party lines.

Look at it from a historical perspective, when either party had control it was far more difficult to get meaningful legislation passed. But today is a new era, so..?

I will get invoved as we speak. I don't have a lot of money but what i have i will share with the right groups to keep my rights to Snowmobile.

Skinner, it doesn't take a lot of money. I takes you, in person, in print or on-line explaining to others, preferrably level headed others, why you care. How the issue affects you and yours and why you are working to see "X" accomplished. Do your best to educate yourself to the given issue, but keep your points simple and concise (unlike me:)). No bullet points from some web site, but actual anecdotal points. Personalize the issue to you and if possible to your audience.

An example - Here in the Left Coast, there was/is always a movement afoot to close some roads into riding areas. A group went to Sac and met with some legislators. One of the "city" legislators said "thanks for talking to me, but I really don' see how closing roads affects me". One of the members of the group saw a family photo with the people in front of a tent in the woods. They asked the assemblyman about the pic. He say "Oh we love to camp in this particular area, get out of the rat race of Sacramento, you know" The member of the group asked where the picture was taken and once answered, they proceeded to inform the Assemblyman that the very area he enjoys with his family was on the list to close to vehicle traffic. His response was, "How am I supposed to get my family in there for our trip?" A member from the group blurted out, "Walk".

Needless to say, we made a difference that day. So can you!
 
I feel sick. Although the tax part will be bad, tax rates are easlily lowered in the future when another adminitration is voted in. Ligislation that affects the social and environmental issues NEVER get rolled back.
 
Cloudy, gloomy day in Denver today. Normal years I'd be looking at the clouds over the mountains, dreaming of snow, and checking the mountain forecast and Snotel sites.

Today I feel...gloomy.
 
what was more disturbing to me was when he said, these changes won't just take a year, they may not even be accomplished with one term....

he is already asking people to temper their expectations, something that he did not do on the campaign trail. that concerns me because he and his supporters are likely to say, "things were worse than we expected, we need more time and more of your money to accomplish change." blah, blah, blah.

the only silver lining yesterday was that the US can undergo a change in leadership without having had a single shot fired. that makes me proud to be an American, despite the fact the shift did not go in my preferred direction.

sledding is not over per se, but as I think Ollie mentioned in a different thread, the restrictions could fundamentally change the industry and our practices.
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For those who listened to Obama's entire Victory speach, who else heard him already calling people his "Comrades"
 
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My feelings exactly!!!
 
Info on SAWS

Does anyone have information on how i can join SAWS.....I am just a 18 year old highschool kid and cannot do much....but i would like to do as much as possible to help keep my riding areas open. We cant let an election like this end our sport. Any Info?
 
the only silver lining yesterday was that the US can undergo a change in leadership without having had a single shot fired. that makes me proud to be an American, despite the fact the shift did not go in my preferred direction.



Though if it would have been a different outcome several lives would have been taken and today you would be seeing the biggest riots in this countries history..............

I do believe that there are going to be certain groups.......they are going to be gaining new members like you've never seen. Just like one certain group did after World War 1. I can't say that is good, but I do beleive that it is going to be a reality.
 
This will be good in a way.Finally the Dems will see that it's alot easier to sit on the sidelines and point fingers then to try to deal with the problems directly.Wonder who gets the blame now that Bush will be gone?
 
The liberals will just blame the last 8 years of Bush, just like they have been doing. Liberals do not and will not take responsibility for any of their actions. They just spread the blame around. I see this so much in all walks of life now days. It is no wonder why the majority of people in this country voted for him.

In all honesty, We need tough times. That is what will do the most for this country in the long run. Let the strong survive!!
 
Hi comrades, (just practicing :rolleyes:)

Funny how all the liberals have done so bad the past 8 years, but I've done great. Just hard work and education and making good choices, I guess. But, then they'd just say I'm lucky, and should be punished. Chlorine does a gene pool good.
 
felt so BAD, i wenting sleddin' in colorado.........didnt think about the election 1 second------------48miles all smiles........................BRAAAP

still :brokenheart: but winter is here.........and it helps a little.

pp
 
Neg feedback left for me on this thread..

11-05-2008 01:11 AM you make over 200g and hang on a forum.. sad.

I never said what I make, but you need to look closer at his stance on this bud. 150K per individual. But if you think his tax hikes are gonna stop there, you are were just blind sided..
 
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