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Well, Obama has won it, how do you feel?

Fundraisers for SAWS or Blue Ribbon Coalition are a pretty easy sell...I put on a dinner party at the WA Snow Show for 75 and raised over $1000 for SAWS...if you're serious about supporting the cause, then the ideas are endless...this time of year, hosting a video showing is a pretty safe bet.

Welcome aboard.

Thanks for the idea(s). I hope others get past their anger and put their energy into positive actions for the common cause on this site. We need to support pro-snowmobiling organizations as much as possible right now. Thanks again:beer;
 
Thanks for the idea(s). I hope others get past their anger and put their energy into positive actions for the common cause on this site. We need to support pro-snowmobiling organizations as much as possible right now. Thanks again:beer;

I will get invoved as we speak. I don't have a lot of money but what i have i will share with the right groups to keep my rights to Snowmobile.
 
Damn Donbrown, The Nashville inter city experience was a lot different from yours. We lived out, but got bussed in. Segregation court ruling.

I remember most of the Blacks had never been around whites, the school was almost 50/50, which was in the projects. It was a scary place. People always running down the street, being chased, or chasing someone. Gun battles out in front of the school. Teachers yelling at us to get down. Some drug dealer running through the school, running from the cops. They seemed to really like nickel plated 45's back then. The police were always near. They were not there to protect us, they were there to make sure that nothing happened to the white kids, because their families would have started a war. Lots of tension over the bussing. Actually, some of my best friends were from the projects. I got along with them better than the other white kids.

In highschool, when we grew up and they got bussed out to the suburbs, things got worse. Race fights, groups shaking down loners for pocket change. They weren't so nice. Then I noticed the kids started carrying guns.
 
Thanks for the idea(s). I hope others get past their anger and put their energy into positive actions for the common cause on this site. We need to support pro-snowmobiling organizations as much as possible right now. Thanks again:beer;

It's not much, but this Canuck kicked $50 into SAWS this summer. I do the majority of my riding in the US and would like to keep it that way. I know money will get tighter with the economy headed the way it is, but just stop and think what $50 really is in this day and age. Stay out of the bar for 1 night or cut out some other useless purchase. If everyone did this, organizations like this would have a big enough warchest to have some real clout.

It's all about priorities in a time like this. Just how important is riding to you?
 
It's not much, but this Canuck kicked $50 into SAWS this summer. I do the majority of my riding in the US and would like to keep it that way. I know money will get tighter with the economy headed the way it is, but just stop and think what $50 really is in this day and age. Stay out of the bar for 1 night or cut out some other useless purchase. If everyone did this, organizations like this would have a big enough warchest to have some real clout.

It's all about priorities in a time like this. Just how important is riding to you?

Way to be, I'm writing SAWS a $100 check, if you can give so can I. Heck, I can still afford it, for now.
 
I don't see a Palin in 2012, I think the republican party is dead for a long time.

What I DO see is the Independents gaining in popularity 2012 and winning some seats, in 2016 they'll be like the dems are now.


I hope they'll repeal/fix a lot of the damage done to the constitution in the next 8 years.

Liberal America will get what they've hoped for, they'll find they don't like the taste very much and we'll finally find a balance in the middle.

I think Obama will wake America up, or as another SW'r said "shake America to its core". He is a 'necessary evil'
 
The silver lining here may be that more people who normally are ignorant of the plight of keeping land open will now get involved.

It was amazing to me to hear the stories from the SAWS booth at the WA Snow Show how many people couldn't be bothered with signing up for SAWS...which is FREE!!!

Dig Hole, Insert Head, Replace Sand!!!

Wade, Beels, Skinner, Anziconda, thanks for the donations and commitment to get involved!! :beer; :beer; :beer; :beer; (one for each of ya!!).
 
The silver lining here may be that more people who normally are ignorant of the plight of keeping land open will now get involved.

It was amazing to me to hear the stories from the SAWS booth at the WA Snow Show how many people couldn't be bothered with signing up for SAWS...which is FREE!!!

Dig Hole, Insert Head, Replace Sand!!!

Wade, Beels, Skinner, Anziconda, thanks for the donations and commitment to get involved!! :beer; :beer; :beer; :beer; (one for each of ya!!).

I've been signed up since year 1. I guess riding areas aren't that important to some people.:confused:
 
The silver lining here may be that more people who normally are ignorant of the plight of keeping land open will now get involved.

It was amazing to me to hear the stories from the SAWS booth at the WA Snow Show how many people couldn't be bothered with signing up for SAWS...which is FREE!!!

Dig Hole, Insert Head, Replace Sand!!!

Wade, Beels, Skinner, Anziconda, thanks for the donations and commitment to get involved!! :beer; :beer; :beer; :beer; (one for each of ya!!).

x2 I don't understand the lack of snowmobiler involvement in trying to keep areas open either... One lady asked if we were selling the contact information...:rolleyes:

Always look on the briiigggghhhht siiiide of life, da doooo, da do da do da dooooo...
 
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So I live in NY. It is 1:15 in the morning. I live about 2 miles from Vasser College. It is a extremely liberal school.
So anyway, I turned off my tv and as i lay down I can hear a very weird noice out my window but cant figure it out. Go to the front door, and there are people cheering loudly and loud speakers blaring.
 
The Libs have bigger fish to fry, their first couple years with complete power. I probably will consider NOT snowchecking a sled in 010 though, figure that will be about the time they start closing the forests down. Think about it, by then all the gay marriage sh!t will be passed, free hand out bills passed, giving away your hard earned tax dollars to the poor, another trilion given in foreign aid to save the world, 30% cut in defense bill passed, to cut down on armed forces and new technoligy, on and on, then about 25th on the list will come the land closures! The wrong man won, I feel sick about it, but on the same hand, I will enjoy my new sled and some powder while it lasts. I'm sick of politics and just ready to go ride. Hope he's no worse than Clinton was and in four years, hopefully the repubs can get there sh!t together and put up somebody with some sense to take Obama out. WE NEED SNOW!!:eek:
 
Damn Donbrown, The Nashville inter city experience was a lot different from yours. We lived out, but got bussed in. Segregation court ruling.

I remember most of the Blacks had never been around whites, the school was almost 50/50, which was in the projects. It was a scary place. People always running down the street, being chased, or chasing someone. Gun battles out in front of the school. Teachers yelling at us to get down. Some drug dealer running through the school, running from the cops. They seemed to really like nickel plated 45's back then. The police were always near. They were not there to protect us, they were there to make sure that nothing happened to the white kids, because their families would have started a war. Lots of tension over the bussing. Actually, some of my best friends were from the projects. I got along with them better than the other white kids.

In highschool, when we grew up and they got bussed out to the suburbs, things got worse. Race fights, groups shaking down loners for pocket change. They weren't so nice. Then I noticed the kids started carrying guns.

Louis Farikan and the Black Panthers bought homes in WASP neighborhoods and moved in groups of people noone wanted to live with.

The town I grew up in had over 80,000 people in the 60's - 70's. Today it is under 30,000.

I would not be alive if it wasn't for a few black guys and girls. Most just watched, some were hateful few had mercy. But I must say this event brings back memories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_St._Louis#The_East_St._Louis_riots_of_1917

East St. Louis was named an All-America City in 1959, having retained prosperity through the decade as its population reached a peak of 82,295 residents. Through the 1950s and later, the city's musicians were an integral creative force in blues, rock and roll and jazz. Some left and achieved national recognition, like Ike and Tina Turner. Many were featured on the PBS series River of Song in 1999, covering music of cities along the Mississippi River.

The city was dramatically affected by mid-century deindustrialization and restructuring. As a number of local factories began to close because of changes in industry, the railroad and meatpacking industries also were cutting back and moving jobs out of the region. This led to a precipitous loss of working and middle-class jobs. The city's financial conditions deteriorated. Elected in 1951, Mayor Alvin Fields resorted to ill-judged funding procedures to try to buy the city out of its financial morass. The scheme increased the city's bonded indebtedness and the property tax rate. More businesses closed as workers left the area to seek jobs in other regions. Crime increased as a result of poverty and lack of opportunities. The city is also left with expensive clean-up of brownfields, areas with environmental contamination by heavy industry that makes redevelopment more difficult.

Street gangs such as the War Lords, Black Egyptians, 29th Street Stompers and Hustlers appeared in inner neighborhoods. Like other cities with endemic problems by the 1960s, East St. Louis suffered riots in the latter part of the decade. In September 1967, rioting occurred in the city's South End. Also, in the summer of 1968, a still-unsolved series of sniping attacks took place. These events contributed to residential mistrust and adversely affected the downtown retail base and the city's income.

Construction of freeways and urban sprawl contributed to East St. Louis' decline as well. The freeways cut through and broke up existing neighborhoods and community networks. The freeways also made it easier for residents to commute back and forth from suburban homes, so more were inclined to move to newer housing. East St. Louis adopted a number of programs to try to reverse decline — the Model Cities program, the Concentrated Employment Program and Operation Breakthrough. The programs were not enough to offset the industrial restructuring.

In 1971, James Williams was elected as the city's first black mayor. Faced with overwhelming economic problems, he was unable to stop the city's decline and depopulation.[citation needed] By the election of Carl Officer as mayor (the youngest in the country at that time at age 25) in 1979, many said the city had nowhere to go but up, yet things grew worse. Middle-class whites and African Americans left the city. People who could get jobs simply went to where there was work and decent quality of life. Because the city had to cut back on maintenance, sewers failed and garbage pickup ceased. Police cars often did not work, and neither did their radios. The East St. Louis Fire Department went on strike in the 1970s.

Before Gordon Bush was elected mayor in 1991, the state imposed a financial advisory board to manage the city in exchange for a financial bailout. State legislative approval in 1990 of riverboat gambling and the installation of the Casino Queen riverboat casino provided the first new source of income for the city in nearly 30 years.

The past decade can be characterized as one of redevelopment and renewal.[citation needed] In 2001 the city completed a new library. It also built a new city hall. Public-private partnerships have resulted in a variety of new retail developments, housing initiatives, and the St. Louis Metrolink light rail, which have sparked renewal.

The city, now small in terms of population, is still one of the prime examples of drastic urban blight in the country. Sections of "urban prairie" can be found where vacant buildings were torn down and whole blocks became overgrown with vegetation. Additionally, white people have massively moved away from the city, a phenomenon known as White Flight that has affected the whole of Greater St. Louis, including St. Louis proper and Metro-East, among other big cities of the United States.
 
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very sick, very scared...

Me too!!!...I actually had a bout of anxiety for about 30 minutes thinking about how this great country is going to change, you think our economy is bad now...wait a year under Obama's rule, you think energy prices are high now...again, wait a year under Obama's rule. Things are going to get very bad!!!
 
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