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Washington fuel prices, how much can you take

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Good To Go---I saw Don on the other side of the crete truck siphoning diesel today while we were pumping--;)

H20SKE...

He IS cheap... dumb to. He drives a gas rig.

LMAO
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No worries; I grabbed his slick and boards out of the back of his truck:eek:
 
yep your in now and you dont even need to bring fuel, fordmans got lots of extra fuel, I use it all the time, oil too!!!!! hell you can ride one of his sleds, we just need an address on where to pick you up, he drives also, I dont even own a truck!!!!!

As long as its not a cat i'll ride his sled. Heck...he'd be priviledged to have someone of my skill and talent ride one of his sleds.:beer; Pick me up next to the cottage one sat. or sun. and we'll go...
 
It will all be better soon. Dick Cheeney just went to Saudi Arabia to talk to them about fuel prices...
 
Is he taking them hunting?

I certainly hope he is.

We should all change to biodeisel, at least our $4.00 a gallon would be going to a farmer in the US and not some oil prince in the middle east. I am much more likely to have a farmer come in and do business with me than an oil baren from Saudi Arabia

BTW....$4.29 in Spokane today.
 
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My wages haven't increased over the last two years; un like every thing else around me. So to make ends meet, NO Revelstoke or Cooke city this year. Don't see any end in sight on fuel cost going up. I'm waiting for all the heavy haul truckers to start talking about parking there big rigs and watch every thing in this country come to a grinding halt. Might get the attention of a few in the white house.
 
\ I'm waiting for all the heavy haul truckers to start talking about parking there big rigs and watch every thing in this country come to a grinding halt. Might get the attention of a few in the white house.

Seriously, what does the White House have to do with any of this??

And would a 'grinding halt' increase or decrease the cost of ???? Careful what one wishes for...

We should all change to biodeisel, at least our $4.00 a gallon would be going to a farmer in the US and not some oil prince in the middle east. I am much more likely to have a farmer come in and do business with me than an oil baren from Saudi Arabia

Wonder why meat prices are increasing so fast??? It's 'cause your corn that feeds the beef is in greater demand for use in alternative fuels; pushing the price up. Great for the farmer, but you're going to pay one way or another.

BTW, we don't actually get that much oil from the Saudi's.. 18% at the end of '07. Most of it comes from Canada and South America/Mexico.

Feel better now???
 
Wonder why meat prices are increasing so fast??? It's 'cause your corn that feeds the beef is in greater demand for use in alternative fuels; pushing the price up. Great for the farmer, but you're going to pay one way or another.

seems that I mentioned this earlier---They do not seem to get it--That BIO/ETHYNOL is taking our food supply up in cost!!!

H20SKE...
 
seems that I mentioned this earlier---They do not seem to get it--That BIO/ETHYNOL is taking our food supply up in cost!!!

H20SKE...

True, but as said before, would you rather have all of our energy money going to countries that hate us or to farmers in our own country? For better or worse, I would suspect that this next election is going to bring a lot of change to our current situation.

As far as the original question of how high a price I can stand, at the current prices I have already cut back some of my extra use. I think about going riding but but if the snow is so so or the weather is bad....*** it, I'll wait until its deep or at least blue bird. I'm not gonna spend the $100 on gas to go up for a mediocre day of riding.

Just got to find other avenues of recreating to fill my time....kiteboarding is cheap and fun so I've been doing more of that lateley. Either way the oil prices are out of my hands. Seems that the price increases are due less to supply and demand and more from the fact that oil is exchanged in USD which has been sliding for 3 years. Until that stops, oil will continue to be high.

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seems that I mentioned this earlier---They do not seem to get it--That BIO/ETHYNOL is taking our food supply up in cost!!!

H20SKE...

How much of that cost is due to subsidies? If I understand this right (no jokes lol) the price of corn is artificially inflated due to these subsidies, remove them and the price will lower or at least the government will save some money. Sweet more 4k hookers for everyone.
 
We should all change to biodeisel, at least our $4.00 a gallon would be going to a farmer in the US.........

Biodiesel gave me headaches in December when the weather cooled into the 20's . The fuel gelled in fuel filter. Wish there was a pour point depresser put into the biofuel.

Friend at Boeing indicates there are 25 vendors who have figured out how to lower the gel point down to ~ -55F. Technology is getting close for squeezing oil out of algea. Grow the algea in the sewage treatment ponds, etc. - figures indicate an area the size of Belgium (11800 sq miles) is needed for aviation fuel (2% of overall fuel use). For comparison purposes, WA state is 71000 sq miles.
 
How much of that cost is due to subsidies? If I understand this right (no jokes lol) the price of corn is artificially inflated due to these subsidies, remove them and the price will lower or at least the government will save some money. Sweet more 4k hookers for everyone.


Not sure how much the farmer gets in subsidies, but the biodiesel producers get over $1.50/gallon...and here's another little factiod. The cost of agricultural raw oil for biodiesel production (soybean oil, canola, etc...) is trading for about $4/gallon right now. Add to that the production cost of approx $1/gallon and you see the dilema. The cost to produce 1 gallon of biodiesel is $5/gallon, and it sells retail for only $3.50/gallon. Their business model is COUNTING on the subsidies to turn a proffit. Any wonder biodiesel companies are going out of business left and right?

My money is on the companies that can produce a clean product from recycled veggie oil.
 
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