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That is like saying communism would work in the United States. "WESTERN" Democracy will never work in those countries.

I did not say western democracy. I said pro-western. I would to see Iraq form a nation on their terms. As far as pro-western...Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan are pro western...Staunch allies...hardly...democracies not really but someday.

Karl
 
well guys don't sweat it too much, the messiah will have us flipped into a socialist country and since he is related to most of the oppressed nations we will surely include them on the handout. we can take some of the trillions away from bear-sterns and give it to the congo.

makes sence to me:face-icon-small-con
 
well guys don't sweat it too much, the messiah will have us flipped into a socialist country and since he is related to most of the oppressed nations we will surely include them on the handout. we can take some of the trillions away from bear-sterns and give it to the congo.

makes sence to me:face-icon-small-con

Right on, World Welfare, we'll just pay the rest of the world to love us. :) I'm already starting to feel warm and fuzzy inside. Wait till the idiots figure out that there's still classes in a socialist country. There just harder to understand. The smart, always get more resources.
 
The US provided the University of Baghdad 36 strains of Anthrax, a sample of the Vollum Anthrax strain was include. They were provided by the ATCC [American Type Culture Collection in Maryland] This was around 1987. Saddam, cultivated it, and made it into a weapon. They provide these strains to lots of governments, and private companies, to develop defenses against them. It's possible someone provided Iraq these, knowingly to make weapons. The kit cost $35.

U.S. provided it.. correct.

Name a couple, you might be surprised how many countries the USA, and the USA through NATO and/or UN, we have been in.
I never said Nato or the UN. I said the U.S. The UN and Nato are NOT in Iraq are they?


From your link:
While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a so-called "dirty bomb" — a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive material — it could stir widespread panic if incorporated in a blast. Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment.

They had no means to turn any of this into a weapon.

and more:
There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.

Real threat that was...



Old dated incorrect information. That article is almost 3 years old. Here is some new reading saying there was NO link. BTW... these are Pentagon papers:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/saddam_and_alqaeda_1.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47812-2004Jun16.html
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gMrbOB26rqC1rDocYemjluC58zaA

and finally the actual Pentagon report:
http://www.npr.org/documents/2007/feb/dod_iog_iraq_summary.pdf


I believe the source of many of the suicide bombers, are other countries. Not natives of Iraq. Country of Origin, Suicide Bombers Please take time to get the facts. This isn't about revenge, it's about poverty, and religious extremism. The positive note here, is that they are not in the United States, on tourist vistas.





Yes, then they asked us to stay, then they extended it. Oh, read the agreement, Article 4, Paragraph 1. Enough said. http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/SE_SOFA.pdf

Oh, and because we actually want to stabilize the middle east, and we broke it, and it's the right thing to do now, even if the Europeans don't agree.




Now, I won't disagree with you on that.


This is not about poverty, it is not about religion, it is about make a bunch of effing as$holes even more money at the expense of American Taxpayers.

If we were concerned about poverty we would be in Africa and South America, not Iraq.

If were really after these guys we would be bombing Saudi Arabia.
 
U.S. provided it.. correct.

Yep, $35 college kit. Bad USA bad, shouldn't let other countries work on vaccines. They might misuse it. Did you have a point here???


I never said Nato or the UN. I said the U.S. The UN and Nato are NOT in Iraq are they?

Did we not enter under Saddam's violation of UN mandates? Whether we do it direct or through the UN, what difference does it make. The UN is the body responsible for crimes against humanity. Reread your original post.

From you un-quotable gibberish:
Yellowcake is the base, The cyclotron, or gaseous diffusion, or chemical separation equipment are easy compared to get the base material. Some day, under a sand pile, someone will find some machines.


Old dated incorrect information. That article is almost 3 years old. Here is some new reading saying there was NO link. BTW... these are Pentagon papers:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/saddam_and_alqaeda_1.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47812-2004Jun16.html
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gMrbOB26rqC1rDocYemjluC58zaA

and finally the actual Pentagon report:
http://www.npr.org/documents/2007/feb/dod_iog_iraq_summary.pdf

Now this is almost funny. I say he meets terrorist, and the first 2 documents you site, say he meet with terrorist. Read your own links, pay attention to EIJ, and how Saddam funded it and "talked" to them, in his country, and they were TERRORIST. For Gods sake, he was dealing with Ayman al-Zawahiri, you never heard of that name??? And the washington post article, "But the report of the commission's staff, based on its access to all relevant classified information, said that there had been contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda but no cooperation." Thanks for proving my point.



This is not about poverty, it is not about religion, it is about make a bunch of effing as$holes even more money at the expense of American Taxpayers.

If we were concerned about poverty we would be in Africa and South America, not Iraq.

If were really after these guys we would be bombing Saudi Arabia.


I was not saying it's because the USA is concerned about poverty, I'm saying that a lot of the suicide bombers and fighters, are doing it for money. Al Qaeda promises to take care of their families, if they martyr themselves properly. It is about religion primarily. But, poverty buys volume, in people wiling to give their lives. Poverty also results in kids going to Madrasah's that they wouldn't be in otherwise. Al Qaeda feeds off the slums, like Obama ACORNing for votes. By the way, we've been in Africa. The American public doesn't care for it much. You want me to give you a list or something? The Europeans keep trying it too, couple of good books written about their "successes" in Africa. I believe one is called Shake Hands with the Devil.

As for corporations making money off the war, sure they do. We only give our boys the best. You want to equip them with slingshots and send them over there, cool, you can talk to their parents afterwords. And no, I don't think American corporations are keeping the war going, for personal profit. They aren't in charge of that department, Congress and the Executive are.


Have you stated one single thing that actually has any impact? Your points are not valid, and your links tend to prove my point better than yours. Maybe it's time to reexamine your core beliefs. I sense your true conservative beliefs are just dying to be let out. It's OK, you can be conservative, you just have to ignore the screaming college kids, that know everything. Global Warming, spotted owl, ozone layer, global cooling, peace not war, gay day, Pepsi not Coke.
 
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As for corporations making money off the war, sure they do. We only give our boys the best. You want to equip them with slingshots and send them over there, cool, you can talk to their parents afterwords. And no, I don't think American corporations are keeping the war going, for personal profit. They aren't in charge of that department, Congress and the Executive are.

That is some thick naive BS right there.. The corporate bureaucracy is a major part of the problem. Private companies should not be over seas with our military, should not be working right along side our soldiers, and should not be making 10 times what our soldiers make for doing the same exact job...... There are major problems with the military, most involve corporations....

Check this link out... Weapons aquasitions..


Oh, and for those that don't know... IEEE is the gEEk (institute of electrical and electronics engineers) version of SAE... kind of..

Pretty scary stuff, how fu business and the military are...
 
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