I quit using this site about a month or two ago, had to many problems using the site. It is confusing now. I really don't need to pay to be on a forum! Smell you later!
SNOWEST FORUMS: Member Comments on "Letter to All Members"
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The best part of all of this is that.....
Some tools will pay, others will post elsewhere, where it's free.
This site will become worthless, and everyone will end up migrating to the new place.
Snowest will be standing here with their dik in their han wondering "what happened"?!!! And spend the next few years trying to get the current traffic back. (unsuccessfully of course)
Some tools will pay, others will post elsewhere, where it's free.
This site will become worthless, and everyone will end up migrating to the new place.
Snowest will be standing here with their dik in their han wondering "what happened"?!!! And spend the next few years trying to get the current traffic back. (unsuccessfully of course)
Keep up the good work
I GOT SO USE TO THE OLD SYSTEM, THEN IT CHANGED! SENT PM TO CHRISTOPHER IT SUCKED. I WAS WRONG! SORRY. YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB, IT APPEARS ITS GOING TO GET BETTER. THERES A LOT OF BRAIN CANDY ON THIS SITE IF YOUR IN TO SLEDDING EVEN A LITTLE. A LOT OF GREAT KNOWLEDGE TO GAIN FROM. I WILL SUBCRIBE TO A BETTER SYSTEM, THE ABILLITY TO SELL, SHOP, BUY, TRADE, SWAP INFO ETC. EVERYTHING COST THESE DAYS, WHATS A FEW $$ FOR ALL THESE THINGS THAT WOULD TAKE A LOT LONGER AND BREAK YOU LOOKING ELSEWHERE. I HAVE SAVED A LOT OF $$$ BUYING SLEDS FROM MEMBERS HERE THAT THEY WUOLD HAVE TO PAY FOR ADVERTISING IN A PAPER SOMEWHER ELSE. THANKS SNOWEST, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
I GOT SO USE TO THE OLD SYSTEM, THEN IT CHANGED! SENT PM TO CHRISTOPHER IT SUCKED. I WAS WRONG! SORRY. YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB, IT APPEARS ITS GOING TO GET BETTER. THERES A LOT OF BRAIN CANDY ON THIS SITE IF YOUR IN TO SLEDDING EVEN A LITTLE. A LOT OF GREAT KNOWLEDGE TO GAIN FROM. I WILL SUBCRIBE TO A BETTER SYSTEM, THE ABILLITY TO SELL, SHOP, BUY, TRADE, SWAP INFO ETC. EVERYTHING COST THESE DAYS, WHATS A FEW $$ FOR ALL THESE THINGS THAT WOULD TAKE A LOT LONGER AND BREAK YOU LOOKING ELSEWHERE. I HAVE SAVED A LOT OF $$$ BUYING SLEDS FROM MEMBERS HERE THAT THEY WUOLD HAVE TO PAY FOR ADVERTISING IN A PAPER SOMEWHER ELSE. THANKS SNOWEST, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
This is a real pitty but i have saved lots of money on the forum and solved many problems but its going to be hard to do that if some of the real members dont come with and stop posting on here that will lead to losing other members but i probably would pay for it my two cents
I have been a member here for a lot of years and have not posted much at all the last few years.The knowledge I have gained is worth more than I can explain here.
I am more than willing to pay for this service and hope that enough people feel the same way.
Sure this forum has some problems at the moment and hopefully they will be solved fairly soon.I am not going to jump ship until all the "women and children" are safe.If the powers that be tell us they know what they are doing I'll give them a chance.
Don't let us down and I would like to know if there is a plan B if all this does not work.It would be a shame for all this valuable information to be lost.
I am more than willing to pay for this service and hope that enough people feel the same way.
Sure this forum has some problems at the moment and hopefully they will be solved fairly soon.I am not going to jump ship until all the "women and children" are safe.If the powers that be tell us they know what they are doing I'll give them a chance.
Don't let us down and I would like to know if there is a plan B if all this does not work.It would be a shame for all this valuable information to be lost.
just joined back.country.rebels.com with out the dots(way cooler then snowest.com because they don't change what you type) !!!! I am sure this site is going to be good here real soon. It is Free, and there is no "CHANGE"!
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It is about profit... bottom line.
Why weren't we asked what we, the CUSTOMER, wanted?
Because charging for website access equals BIG PROFIT. This decision was made to increase the bottom line profit because the magazine industry is going the way of the dodo bird.
Hosting does NOT cost that much and doing the math of 36,000 * $30/year = $1,000,000+ a year. That is a LOT of money for a forum that most clubs and enthusiast organizations do it for free.
I won't pay, I won't use and I won't miss the site. It was fine while free, but I am not going to pay.
Harris Publishing needs to find another revenue stream.
Why weren't we asked what we, the CUSTOMER, wanted?
Because charging for website access equals BIG PROFIT. This decision was made to increase the bottom line profit because the magazine industry is going the way of the dodo bird.
Hosting does NOT cost that much and doing the math of 36,000 * $30/year = $1,000,000+ a year. That is a LOT of money for a forum that most clubs and enthusiast organizations do it for free.
I won't pay, I won't use and I won't miss the site. It was fine while free, but I am not going to pay.
Harris Publishing needs to find another revenue stream.
RIP snowest...
Sorry but this will be the end of the site... Typical IM guys tell you need all of this cool, but complicated stuff.. Now the site runs slow.. so now you need to spend a bunch of cash to upgrade the servers.. now you have to charge.. now the site gets fast cause everybody quits... now the IM guy will need to find a new job cause it aint going to make it.....
Sorry but this will be the end of the site... Typical IM guys tell you need all of this cool, but complicated stuff.. Now the site runs slow.. so now you need to spend a bunch of cash to upgrade the servers.. now you have to charge.. now the site gets fast cause everybody quits... now the IM guy will need to find a new job cause it aint going to make it.....
Snowest was good in the past but is it now better than the competition at the price point? when prices are equal yes, but at a higher price point I think that for most its not.
When I look at the rate schedule above - I see a game of attrition playing out. My hunch is that there aren't many to pay $30/yr to join for full access that haven't been around this block for a while. There will be some to stick around from the existing ranks to see how things pan out for a while but what I don't see happening is growth.
I know when I had my SC Apex and learning to tune on it - this place wasn't bad but quality of info at TY was better. My buddies on Doo's have migrated away from SW to Dootalk.
The boat site that I frequent the most has 25,483 members, 3329 of which are active since moving over to VB a little over a year ago they have ~380,000 Posts and the Admin just posted that the Server Bill for the year was just over $1000 and collected the donations to keep things running for the next year. SW has more members, and about 4-5x the posts but I don't see how you end up needing a billing strategy that nets that much more money. A buck a user per year gets a decent pile of cash to pay for your server provider, never mind the ad revenues (the boat site has stayed ad free).
In all of this I have not been a supporter of Christopher and his "vision" but I am apparently not the target demographic (Rider since age of 6, now with family that isn't too far away from starting in on the small sleds). The $30 isn't really that much money to me but when I can get similar product for free, well free is free. The newly appointed Mod Squad hasn't been well vetted and some settings need to be changed at the Admin level to show to all that posts have been Moderated. None of the tweaking of posts and not leaving any tracks to show that the words on screen are not what the original poster had posted. There has been an outspoken critic about vendors being Moderators and in general I agree that is not good practice (boatsite above had some serious issues with this and a certain diesel mechanic).
If and this is a big if there had been a history of Good Harris Provided Content, FAB's (Features and Benefits), I would be more inclined to pay it and not be thrilled but the bill would be paid and I would forget about the money a bit later. Given that there hasn't been really anything but user generated information being exchanged well I am not likely to be paying to give away things that I know.
I might stick around for the basic level membership but its my hunch is that there won't be much to see.
Given how fast this thread is moving I doubt my rant will be read by many but... it's my $0.02.
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snowjunkie
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I must say that all I have learned from the snowest members over the years is well worth the $$$. If I can find a fix for my sled from a member and not have to take it to a shop to have it fixed,at $90 a hour, I say sign me up that is a huge saving.
seeee yaaa.still allot of free sights with good people good info and still free hcs . johndee.snowmobile fanatics.just to name a few.I am sure with the new income stream the site will be full size with out payed banners an the side and top right?
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shmuckaluck
Well-known member
Hey guys,
Backcountryrebels has had a total of 405 people visit that site today, all day that can't be fun. nobody's on there.
Backcountryrebels has had a total of 405 people visit that site today, all day that can't be fun. nobody's on there.
Count me in
Well worth it for me... Sign me up.
And for all those belly ache'n out there, maybe you would be happier starting your own forum and forking over cash out of your pocket so people can save thousands of thier dollars for free.
Well worth it for me... Sign me up.
And for all those belly ache'n out there, maybe you would be happier starting your own forum and forking over cash out of your pocket so people can save thousands of thier dollars for free.
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shmuckaluck
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it really changed when I typed in bcr it changed to snowest. thats kinda lame. I was making a point in favor of snowest. and now it looks like I made a diss on snowwest.
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shmuckaluck
Well-known member
It did it again, that gay as hell. those snowest's are suposed to be B-a-c-k-c-o-u-n-t-r-y-r-e-b-e-l-s.
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shmuckaluck
Well-known member
Hey guys,
OK it pisses me off when my words are changed. that is super lame.
OK it pisses me off when my words are changed. that is super lame.
THings change fast when people do things like censor our posts.
backcountry.rebels.com
sledmods.com
yeah, not much traffic on those sites, but when the actions of people on here drive people to them, things pick up quick.
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