Snowest becoming a PAY SITE?????

[HOBB-Z]

No BS here...

That is not what I'm about

If a change happens ... I'll be paying the same as the rest of you.

92% have said they won't pay, the mod to member ratio will be outstanding...lol

You'll be paying a 100% more than me

 

[CatWoman]

AR......I did reply to your PM.

I was trying to get here to post a reply, but many other things going on at the same time.

(Not that anyone cares, but my *baby*, a 10 month old Golden is at the Vet's for some sudden severe lameness. My Vet called me, and I was on the phone with him for quite awhile going over the problem)

No one is trying to hide anything. We'd just like for you to have FACTS, not misinformation, or inaccurate info as was posted with that OLD document. We are far beyond that. It wouldn't be right to put something out that doesn't contain correct info, or answer any questions you may have.

I CARE very much for this place, and the members of it. We have some fantastic people here!! I've made some very good friends. I've watched some of your kids as they grow (I still get a giggle out of "TrunkMonkey"), shared in heartache, read and been touched by stories of family outings/proud moments, been happy to see the new sleds you get or the mods you do to them, shared in the love of this sport, and tried to help with things in any way I could.

I don't like to see rumors running rampant, and people getting upset over things that aren't true. Please try to be patient just a bit longer. As Scott said, I think you'll understand and like it.

Sandy

 

[babi21]

Its about to the point of who gives a flying rats azz what snowest does,
the place has taken on the mentality of those who suffer from
LITTLE MANS SYNDROME

They still don't seem to realize WE ARE THE FORUM and it is possible for us to take our ball and leave.

maybe your right i'm leaving to snow&mud.com lot faster to boot

 

[skidontlover]

So let me get this strait.... Your going to pay to log on and volunteer your time? Your Information? So essentially your going to pay to work for some one else? I think I may need to seriously re-evalutate what I thought the inteligance level of some of the pieps on here are.

 

[bigbadjohn]

So let me get this strait.... Your going to pay to log on and volunteer your time? Your Information? So essentially your going to pay to work for some one else? I think I may need to seriously re-evalutate what I thought the inteligance level of some of the pieps on here are.

hahahahaha^^^^^^^hahahahaha^^^^^^^^hahahahaha^^^^^^

 

[mountainhorse]

So let me get this strait.... Your going to pay to log on and volunteer your time? Your Information? So essentially your going to pay to work for some one else? I think I may need to seriously re-evalutate what I thought the inteligance level of some of the pieps on here are.

ROLMFAO!!

Yea... I've had a few screws loose for a while...

Maybe thats why I dream about snowmobiling... LOL

Life is good people...

I just found that I got paid in the mail today from a customer, super wealthy, that has been shining me on for a year+ now... 1 new Porsche and 1 new wife later (for him). Her shoes probably cost more than he owed me. (frown)

Any kind of membership fee is nothing compared to the un-billable hours that I spend on the forums or the beers that I've bought with fellow members .... I've been writing "books" on here for 2 years and been harvesting just as much info as well. Lots of others like 1200psi, Boss Rev, Big John and many others have done the same.

The members that I have turned into friends here.... Priceless!!

I'm looking fwd to riding with a lot of new people this year!!

 

[yammadog]

AR......I did reply to your PM.

I was trying to get here to post a reply, but many other things going on at the same time.

(Not that anyone cares, but my *baby*, a 10 month old Golden is at the Vet's for some sudden severe lameness. My Vet called me, and I was on the phone with him for quite awhile going over the problem)

No one is trying to hide anything. We'd just like for you to have FACTS, not misinformation, or inaccurate info as was posted with that OLD document. We are far beyond that. It wouldn't be right to put something out that doesn't contain correct info, or answer any questions you may have.

I CARE very much for this place, and the members of it. We have some fantastic people here!! I've made some very good friends. I've watched some of your kids as they grow (I still get a giggle out of "TrunkMonkey"), shared in heartache, read and been touched by stories of family outings/proud moments, been happy to see the new sleds you get or the mods you do to them, shared in the love of this sport, and tried to help with things in any way I could.

I don't like to see rumors running rampant, and people getting upset over things that aren't true. Please try to be patient just a bit longer. As Scott said, I think you'll understand and like it.

Sandy

Since you seem to know something.....is this going to be a pay site at any level?

 

[ruffryder]

92% have said they won't pay, the mod to member ratio will be outstanding...lol

You'll be paying a 100% more than me

92% of what? Lets play with your game..

92% voted no out of 460 that voted
7.9% voted no out of the 5375 that have read the thread
3.0% voted no out of the 14,068 active members
1.1% voted no out of the 36,117 total members.

Your 92% doesn't look that big, IMO.

Like most things, the squeaky wheel gets the grease... There seems to be a lot of people that are only on snowest to complain, to moan, and to carry on. IMO, the only thing that changed are the whiners. There are / is whining about everything now. Too many this, too many that, why wasn't I asked about this, I don't want it to do that.

I love all this, "I am leaving, I am leaving crap.". 10 posts later they are still hear saying they are leaving. Crap, some have been leaving for 2 months already....

 

[dmkhnr]

How much moula are we talking here?
I know new servers are being made, which should make the site faster.
Are we paying to help supplicate the cost of the new forum, or are we paying because somebody sees an oportunity to generate revenue?

I've been on this forum for a LOOONG time, and I didn't see anything wrong with the way it used to be. However, the changes have been made, the new forum runs horribly slow, and they say new servers are needed to get it back in order. Soooo, are we talking a small donation from every user, or a yearly membership fee???

I don't mind helping out with the new infrastructure, but a yearly membership fee is more than likely out of the question.

 

[ruffryder]

I think I may need to seriously re-evalutate what I thought the inteligance level of some of the pieps on here are.

We are all snowmobilers, how intelligent did you think we could get?

 

[yammadog]

Hey Ruffy...STFU....you and your math are typical twisted obomanation calculated figures....7.9% of the people that read the thread...4000 of which were repeat people...just like everything,,,,only the vote counts and if in fact they charge then most will leave...including myself. Which will leave you here arguing with yourself...although I know you are used to doing that anyway in the privacy of your cubical...just doesn't seem as fun typing to your self.

By the way...location is "here" not "hear".....guess gramar checker wasn't on that screwed up calculator....

92% of what? Lets play with your game..

92% voted no out of 460 that voted
7.9% voted no out of the 5375 that have read the thread
3.0% voted no out of the 14,068 active members
1.1% voted no out of the 36,117 total members.

Your 92% doesn't look that big, IMO.

Like most things, the squeaky wheel gets the grease... There seems to be a lot of people that are only on snowest to complain, to moan, and to carry on. IMO, the only thing that changed are the whiners. There are / is whining about everything now. Too many this, too many that, why wasn't I asked about this, I don't want it to do that.

I love all this, I am leaving, I am leaving crap.. 10 posts later they are still hear saying they are leaving. Crap, some have been leaving for 2 months already....

If you guys don't like it, then go. Go find something else in this world to complain about, to vent all your frustrations out on.

I for one, am getting sick of it.

All the change.. LMAO. So what has changed? Only thing I notice is there are more subforums. Wow, big fricken deal. All the other crap can be USER removed. Only thing that has really changed are peoples crappy attitudes. We all know better then everyone else, it seems. It should be MY way.

 

[25oht6]

Its about to the point of who gives a flying rats azz what snowest does,
the place has taken on the mentality of those who suffer from
LITTLE MANS SYNDROME

They still don't seem to realize WE ARE THE FORUM and it is possible for us to take our ball and leave.

...and by "ball" you mean the servers and software that you brought with you?

 

[skibreeze]

Just get the speed to where it needs to be and give me some darn snow and I will forgive all the stupid changes and moderated posts.

 

[Mag]

maybe your right i'm leaving to snow&mud.com lot faster to boot

OMG....... Bwahahahahahahhahahhahhaha 1 post and your leaving already

 

[HOBB-Z]

...and by "ball" you mean the servers and software that you brought with you?

What?

How did you come up with that??

You should try out for mod over the a/c section...

 

[skibreeze]

...and by "ball" you mean the servers and software that you brought with you?

Yeah that makes sense. The "ball" is our time and experience to be able to help each other. I'll say this again, the forums are worthless without the users.

Think about this. How many advertisers would pay to be here if none of us were here? The answer is none, in other words the forum would be worthless to HP.

 

[ruffryder]

Hey Ruffy...STFU....you and your math are typical twisted obomanation calculated figures....7.9% of the people that read the thread...4000 of which were repeat people

It doesn't work like that, it counts users only, not the number of times each user.. Good try though.

just like everything,,,,only the vote counts and if in fact they charge then most will leave...

I assumed that the people that didn't vote think the rest are being dumb..
You know, I bet the cost will be about equal to you drinking 2 or 3 less beers A YEAR.

By the way...location is "here" not "hear".....guess gramar checker wasn't on that screwed up calculator....

Well, that is one way to prove your point..

 

[ericbigbore]

It doesn't work like that, it counts users only, not the number of times each user.. Good try though.
I assumed that the people that didn't vote think the rest are being dumb..
You know, I bet the cost will be about equal to you drinking 2 or 3 less beers A YEAR.
Well, that is one way to prove your point..

I believe it counts every time you log off and back on but I'm not sure. Just surfing back and fourth in the forum without logging off won't add to the count??

 

[ruffryder]

I believe it counts every time you log off and back on but I'm not sure. Just surfing back and fourth in the forum without logging off won't add to the count??

I was wrong on part of it, I didn't take into account guests. The number of registered users that have viewed the thread is around 1k. So it is 40% of people that have read the thread voted no.

Not sure on the log on and off though... hmmmm good think I like to make assumptions!!

 

[HOBB-Z]

OMG....... Bwahahahahahahhahahhahhaha 1 post and your leaving already

That is the funniest thing I've seen in a while, I laughed so hard I cried.

A 4M is supposed to be fun, the new look of the place has taken most of the fun away. I would gladly pay to have it back but I don't see that as an option.