Rider VS Snowmobile?

[M7 man]

Sorry its so shakey. Camera mans first yr. By the way im sidehillin. good??

http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p22/Eric12_09/?action=view&current=rides006.flv

 

[Clarke673]

not bad... You didn't slam into a rock or roll it so it was ok! lol. YOu should have cut up hill and climbed some or cut back and maid a Z.

 

[M7 man]

not bad... You didn't slam into a rock or roll it so it was ok! lol. YOu should have cut up hill and climbed some or cut back and maid a Z.

lol you cant quite see it there but at the top another 100ft is all rocks. there is all rock. very few spots to climb out. and i proved that about a week before that vid was made. tried climbing out at got caught between 2 rocks broke my brake resivor. had to ride 18 miles without brakes. down some steep hills to. i could have made it should have made it but i didnt

 

[Sheepdog]

I would say its 60-40 with the rider having the edge. I personally think the best way to get better is to try to follow an agressive rider on a good sled and dont be afraid to get stuck. You will quickly learn from your mistakes.

 

[brahm]

rider..all rider.. my buddy has a rev800 128 or 131 (something with a super small track).. I have a rev800 151 he can out climb me, out ride me, ect ect any day of the week.. never seen him get stuck.

 

[kennyblatz]

i would have been willing to put money on my ditch riding ability/speed (flatlander). but riding in the mountains put me in my place. after riding for 5-6 years steady couple years up to 5-6 days a week, going to the mountains was like day 1 all over. i think almost all of it is rider aside from curtain senarios or corse.

 

[KFD070]

I really dunno....sledding's not a contest for me, I just go out and have as much fun as possible. You'll get better the more you go and work your way up to bigger stuff. Lines that looked stupid a year ago are now run of the mill. The guy's who are in over their head's are the one's who ride 3 times a year because they wad it up evertime.

Some of the "good" riders are nothing more than average, except they simply don't care about busting equipment, getting in an avy, etc

Gotta agree with this. I run into guys around here that don't have the smarts to organize a 2 man rush to a 3 hole $h!thouse, yet they have brass Cahoneys and just don't know where to draw the line on pushing their abilities. They are so dam stressed out by the end of their day from trying to out-do each other that not much fun was really had at all but they would never in their life admit to it. Being afraid of seriously injuring myself 50 miles from my truck or destroying my sled just isn't my idea of a good day of sledding. Maybe for some it is......but I guess I've just grown up.

 

[corpeleven]

Good riders don't talk about themselves.

 

[KFD070]

Good riders don't talk about themselves.

Short and sweet but so true

Back to the initial question(Sled Vs: Rider)...... a good rider on a good sled is one who makes it back to his truck at the end of the day under his own power, has a few pics or video to show for it and can't wait to get back out again tomorrow.
No doubt though, the sled makes a huge difference to any caliber of rider. I would rate myself on a scale of one to ten as a rider about a 5. I jumped on my buddy's 700 Dragon last year and within minutes felt like more like a 7 or 8. I still looked like a 2 but fun scale was a 10.
Does this make sense? Oh Crap! I'm talking about myself...........

 

[bushy]

Seems a lot of riders are jumping onto turbo's now and it almost seems to handicap them and narrow the kind of stuff they can ride. Most guy's, including me, just can't handle that much power. They can't handle the power and could do more stuff on an NA sled if they'd just develop their skills. They'd learn how to ride instead of thinking the power was going to make them a good rider. Sure they look pretty good in the parking lot, but out in the steep and deep the sorting out doesn't care how much power is under the hood. I'm always amazed when I ride with truly good riders and what they can do with just a basic sled.

 

[HANDSOME]

Seems a lot of riders are jumping onto turbo's now and it almost seems to handicap them and narrow the kind of stuff they can ride. Most guy's, including me, just can't handle that much power. They can't handle the power and could do more stuff on an NA sled if they'd just develop their skills. They'd learn how to ride instead of thinking the power was going to make them a good rider. Sure they look pretty good in the parking lot, but out in the steep and deep the sorting out doesn't care how much power is under the hood. I'm always amazed when I ride with truly good riders and what they can do with just a basic sled.

Just because most people cant ride a turbo as well as others can ride a n/a sled doesn't mean they cant ride a n/a sled. The guy on the turbo needs to learn how to ride instead of looking good in the parking lot..... right ! That is where its the sled more so than the rider.

 

[justadude]

By many of the replys It's easy to tell the age of some posters!!

 

[HPJUNKIE]

Rider #1, Sled #2. Seat time...Seat time... Seat time... I see countless riders spending $$$ after $$$ on mods when they could never come close to wringing out thier stock ride 100%. So the next time you see some thing that you "think" will make you a better rider, take a second & be honest with yourself. I've been riding the mtns for over 20yr's & consider myself a good rider, but after riding with some great riders such Vinny Clark, Carl Kuster,Kevin Mintz, it's humbling...

 

[longtrack156]

Buy many of the replys It's easy to tell the age of some posters!!

If I get stuck more than 3 times I can't ride anymore.

 

[Anti-Hero]

Rider and knowing how to ride what you got, 96 ultra piped 133.5X1.5 riding with 141's and 151's, i learned how to make the machine work, hill climbs i relyied on sidehilling and track speed. a great sled with a crappy rider will only carry you so far.

 

[BeeDoo]

I would say that when I went from the 1982 Yamaha SRV 540 to the 2004 Ski Doo 500ss, the sled made me a better rider.

 

[snow-seeker]

Definatly rider over sled.

Last season was my fist in the mountains.

Rode with a crew last season who are all great riders. Funniest was a highmark session where a good friend high marked for the natural sleds with a 98 Summit 670 the big mod on the sled is a 151 track, other than that it's stock, including exhaust. He was 4th out of the turbos that were on the hill as well!

I thought I did the right thing by buying an 800, but realized it rode me more than the other way around. Switched over to a 700RMK 155 and have not looked back. It will take me where I dare to go, and is teaching me sled control over throttle control. I lightened it over the summer as much as I can afford, engine is still stock. Once I can out do my buddy on his 670, I will consider going to a bigger sled.

 

[devil]

rider, almost all rider IMO.
i see it in racing cars all the time, some of the best guys are just phenomenal drivers running fast times in near stock cars, catching up to and passing good drivers in faster cars.

 

[Steve D]

It's all the rider when you do something awesome and it's all the sled when something goes wrong.

 

[tundramonkey]

It's definately the rider. Been riding the flats of the midwest for 30+ years and mountains for 3. Let me tell you the first time in the deep I thought WTF is wrong with this damn thing, it won't go were I want it to. After about 3 days of this, I figured out it was me. So then I spent the next two trips out west relearning how to ride my sled. I'm no where near the level of rider as I would like to be, but sure have a lot of fun trying.